OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Post Draft - Still dont need no QB

[Peat]

Good. I don't care about Rodgers' personality, I think he's still a good QB, it doesn't impede their ability to find their future QB next year, and I've been bored to tears watching this offense for so long now I'm craving barely competent QB play. I'm annoyed he dragged this out just to skip activities that were voluntary anyway, but I'm excited to see how it goes.

With apologies for being that guy...

If he's actually a good QB, he's probably going to knock them about five spots down the draft order and impede getting next year's QB.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

With apologies for being that guy...

If he's actually a good QB, he's probably going to knock them about five spots down the draft order and impede getting next year's QB.

It fairly obvious that they are playing on trade from the 20s to 10s for the Qb like Buffalo and Kc. Next year class has 6 Qbs

 

[pistolpete11]

Woot.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

No idea how much juice he has left, no idea how much drama he'll bring, so in short...

I guess whatever happens tho, this season probably got more entertaining either way

Most likely the kind of entertaining that people will hate.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Rather have Rodgers as the QB over Mason. So whatever.

Hopefully both suck and they give Howard a shot.

 

[Peat]

It fairly obvious that they are playing on trade from the 20s to 10s for the Qb like Buffalo and Kc. Next year class has 6 Qbs

Leaving aside that nobody knows how many QBs next year's draft has -

They can't control that happening. The higher they are, the more they can control. Even a QB rich class can leave teams disappointed (see Raiders in 2024).

There is nothing guaranteed but a 10-7 Steelers team missing out on a good QB in the draft again while a 8-9 team gets their guy is totally feasible.

 

[pistolpete11]

It fairly obvious that they are playing on trade from the 20s to 10s for the Qb like Buffalo and Kc. Next year class has 6 Qbs

Yes, but if they didn't have to trade up, that would be better and/or make it easier to trade up even higher if the right guy is there.

Winning games this year is bad. Inevitable, because I don't think their roster is bottom 10 in the NFL, but bad.

 

[cookthebooks]

rodgers is a replacement level qb with a league leading ego. this is generally toxic in most organizations, but lets see how it goes!

 

[pistolpete11]

Although, I will say, while I think Rodgers is probably still a better QB than Rudolph, things could still go poorly with him. He's 42 years old, man. He was already declining in GB, suffered a serious injury in NY, and didn't have the most inspiring comeback season. He might be cooked enough where there's really not much difference between him and Rudolph at this point.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Although, I will say, while I think Rodgers is probably still a better QB than Rudolph, things could still go poorly with him. He's 42 years old, man. He was already declining in GB, suffered a serious injury in NY, and didn't have the most inspiring comeback season. He might be cooked enough where there's really not much difference between him and Rudolph at this point.

Mason 2025: 9-9 TD-INT ratio, 191.3 yards/game, 80.1 passer rating, 5.16 ANY/A

Rodgers 2025: 28-11 TD-INT ratio, 229.2 yards/game, 90.5 passer rating, 5.76 ANY/A

At least last year, Rodgers was way better than Rudolph. Rodgers wasn't good, he was pretty poor overall, but Rudolph sucks.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

 

[xlm34]

Yeah I think even at 42 Rodgers is pretty easily better than Rudolph. He’s absolutely not what he was, but I think he’s a middle of the pack starter whereas Rudolph would be a bottom 5 guy.

He’ll be a year older, but I think another year removed from the Achilles injury is probably a good thing for him.

 

[The Old Master]

rudy is going to be the qb before the season ends. just say'en

 

[Factorial]

 

[Peat]

Mason 2025: 9-9 TD-INT ratio, 191.3 yards/game, 80.1 passer rating, 5.16 ANY/A

Rodgers 2025: 28-11 TD-INT ratio, 229.2 yards/game, 90.5 passer rating, 5.76 ANY/A

At least last year, Rodgers was way better than Rudolph. Rodgers wasn't good, he was pretty poor overall, but Rudolph sucks.

Given the different levels of talent surrounding them, I don't particularly trust the raw stats here. Rodgers had enough talent around him for that season to be a shock. Rudolph didn't. I think Baldwin's adjusted EPA gives Rudolph a better season last season than Rodgers and while I'd take a grain of salt with that, I'll take two with numbers that don't adjust for the talent at all.

 

[SomeDude]

I hope Rodgers’ destruction of the Jets follows him here and the entire coaching staff and front office are burned to the ground in his wake.

Remember when the Steelers were the organization that moved on from players before they were over the hill? We’re now the Seahawks trotting out the shell of Franco year after year.

 

[OnMyOwn]

This is gonna be a fun year haha. I can’t wait.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

I'm starting to wonder if there is any thought or purpose to any Steelers FO decision making these days.

There isn't.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

Rather have Rodgers as the QB over Mason. So whatever.

Hopefully both suck and they give Howard a shot.

Hopefully they suck and be in a better position to draft the next franchise QB.

 

[nsvoyageurs]

I hope Rodgers’ destruction of the Jets follows him here and the entire coaching staff and front office are burned to the ground in his wake.

Remember when the Steelers were the organization that moved on from players before they were over the hill? We’re now the Seahawks trotting out the shell of Franco year after year.

This franchise is still stuck in their short term thinking. Throw crap against a wall; hope it sticks and they'll figure everything else out later on, but they never do.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Yes, but if they didn't have to trade up, that would be better and/or make it easier to trade up even higher if the right guy is there.

Winning games this year is bad. Inevitable, because I don't think their roster is bottom 10 in the NFL, but bad.

If they went Mason and Howard it’s not worse than Duck and Mason. The defense and ST is good enough to go 10-7 regardless of Qb

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Leaving aside that nobody knows how many QBs next year's draft has -

They can't control that happening. The higher they are, the more they can control. Even a QB rich class can leave teams disappointed (see Raiders in 2024).

There is nothing guaranteed but a 10-7 Steelers team missing out on a good QB in the draft again while a 8-9 team gets their guy is totally feasible.

They aren’t paying Dk and TJ over 30 million aav each with the idea of not going 10-7 or better with Rodgers.
I would have liked Mason to be our Maddox and go 6-10 but winning the playoff game gets pressure off Tomlin and company

 

[Peat]

They aren’t paying Dk and TJ over 30 million aav each with the idea of not going 10-7 or better with Rodgers.
I would have liked Mason to be our Maddox and go 6-10 but winning the playoff game gets pressure off Tomlin and company

Yes. I know that. We all know that. Few if any of us expected any different.

It doesn't change anything about what I said. This has the chance to really screw the team over draft wise this coming off-season. Maybe not a giant one but it can happen. Is what it is.

 

[pistolpete11]

By the way, they better not let Rodgers wear number 12.

 

[Factorial]

By the way, they better not let Rodgers were number 12.

They should officially retire it then. I never understood their reluctance to do that. 32, 75, 58. 59. 47, etc.