OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Post Draft - Still dont need no QB

[Coastal Kev]

HFBPens : NHALS!!1 Tomlin Purgatory!!1 Why won't they just rebuild!?!!1

Also HFBPens : Ugh!!1 I can't believe they traded their problematic WR2 who wasn't going to be here in 2026 anyway!!1 Mason Rudolph/42-year-old Aaron Rodgers really needed him to be 'contenders' in 2025!!1

Isn’t that also Khan and TOMLIN……..?

 

[pistolpete11]

Isn’t that also Khan and TOMLIN……..?

Considering Tomlin is the one who pushed for it and Khan is the one who actually did it, no. No, I don't think they are upset that they traded Pickens....

 

[The Old Master]

We need him more, sadly

no, we don't

 

[Victor Z]

We need him more, sadly

Than a team who might think their best option at QB now is.... Spencer Rattler? Yikes.

Even if Rodgers can stay healthy (doubtful) , he still isn't any good anymore although he can provide entertainment value. But then I think that watching snowflakes melt is entertaining.

 

[Factorial]

Than a team who might think their best option at QB now is.... Spencer Rattler? Yikes.

Even if Rodgers can stay healthy (doubtful) , he still isn't any good anymore although he can provide entertainment value. But then I think that watching snowflakes melt is entertaining.

In this case, who would be the snowflakes? People that think Rogers sucks and should retire.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Considering Tomlin is the one who pushed for it and Khan is the one who actually did it, no. No, I don't think they are upset that they traded Pickens....

Yes they like Wilson even though Tomlin put cold water on him saying let’s see what happens in pads

 

[Ulf5]

They reportedly turned down a 4th round pick for Pickens. They waited and got a third. Simple as that. If Dallas offered their third on day 2 of the draft he would have been traded then.

I wish they would have drafted a WR knowing they were definitely getting rid of Pickens, but that’s a different discussion.

Khan refuted the draft day talk but that could just be press speak.

Full transcript: Steelers general manager Omar Khan's media access

PITTSBURGH -- Steelers general manager Omar Khan addressed the decision to trade George Pickens to the Cowboys Friday afternoon.

www.dkpittsburghsports.com

 

[Peat]

Khan refuted the draft day talk but that could just be press speak.

Full transcript: Steelers general manager Omar Khan's media access

PITTSBURGH -- Steelers general manager Omar Khan addressed the decision to trade George Pickens to the Cowboys Friday afternoon.

www.dkpittsburghsports.com

I'm not sure I'd call his words a refutation. This is the relevant section, yeah?

"We had some people inquire during the draft, nothing that really made sense. Cowboys reached out, I don’t really remember what day it was, but earlier this week and they proposed something for us to think about. "

He never outright says that the Cowboys weren't one of the teams that inquired during the draft or that when they reached out later, that was the first time or the first proposal. He makes it sounds like it but stops short of saying it. Given the efforts to which he's going to keep this trade light and breezy and the level of reporting going on, I'm inclined to believe him glossing over stuff feels relevant.

Kinda interesting that he makes it sound like they weren't talking Pickens trades prior to the draft which seems a tad implausible.

 

[Ulf5]

I'm not sure I'd call his words a refutation. This is the relevant section, yeah?

"We had some people inquire during the draft, nothing that really made sense. Cowboys reached out, I don’t really remember what day it was, but earlier this week and they proposed something for us to think about. "

He never outright says that the Cowboys weren't one of the teams that inquired during the draft or that when they reached out later, that was the first time or the first proposal. He makes it sounds like it but stops short of saying it. Given the efforts to which he's going to keep this trade light and breezy and the level of reporting going on, I'm inclined to believe him glossing over stuff feels relevant.

Kinda interesting that he makes it sound like they weren't talking Pickens trades prior to the draft which seems a tad implausible.

Guess I should've clarified. Khan saying the other GMs were talking in generalities and nothing that caught his interest, I take that as no serious trade negotiations were held on draft day.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I'm not sure I'd call his words a refutation. This is the relevant section, yeah?

"We had some people inquire during the draft, nothing that really made sense. Cowboys reached out, I don’t really remember what day it was, but earlier this week and they proposed something for us to think about. "

He never outright says that the Cowboys weren't one of the teams that inquired during the draft or that when they reached out later, that was the first time or the first proposal. He makes it sounds like it but stops short of saying it. Given the efforts to which he's going to keep this trade light and breezy and the level of reporting going on, I'm inclined to believe him glossing over stuff feels relevant.

Kinda interesting that he makes it sound like they weren't talking Pickens trades prior to the draft which seems a tad implausible.

He is lying the were trying to trade GP before the draft no other team wanted to give up a day 2 pick for him. The cowboys were offering a 4th at the draft.
Apparently the cowboys were interested in Batemen and his cheap contract but the ravens said no
GP wanted an extension he wanted taken care of before going into his contract year without a Qb something they did with DJ. Khan wasn’t going to offer him an Higgins like extension and they didn’t want to deal with a hold in.
The cowboys offer him an opportunity to play with the best Qb he has ever had and he will compliment lamb well. They actually throw the ball enough to justify paying 2 wr if he earns an extension after the season

 

[Booker T]

Link 1: George Pickens blasts Steelers on social media: 'They the cheapest organization'

Link 2: Cowboys George Pickens Denies Blasting Steelers in Deleted Social Media Comment

“Pickens, however, quickly denounced the post as a fabrication and blamed it on Artificial Intelligence.”

Mr. Bye Contract

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Link 1: George Pickens blasts Steelers on social media: 'They the cheapest organization'

Link 2: Cowboys George Pickens Denies Blasting Steelers in Deleted Social Media Comment

“Pickens, however, quickly denounced the post as a fabrication and blamed it on Artificial Intelligence.”

Mr. Bye Contract

He isn’t wrong though the moment they paid Dk over 30 million a year he was getting traded. They will wonder why the lose in the playoffs and can’t score 24 points in the regular season with all the money on defense

 

[Honour Over Glory]

All the blokes that bought the new DK jersey with his new number now realizing he got his #14 back anyway lol.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Link 1: George Pickens blasts Steelers on social media: 'They the cheapest organization'

Link 2: Cowboys George Pickens Denies Blasting Steelers in Deleted Social Media Comment

“Pickens, however, quickly denounced the post as a fabrication and blamed it on Artificial Intelligence.”

Mr. Bye Contract

He’s hardly the first nor last ex Steeler to blast the team in the Tomlin era. At this point it’s almost weird when they don’t.

Even Najee Harris was like the hell with that team. Tomlin enabled a lot of players and then would purposely f*** with them and then fuel the fire rather than provide leadership. It’s absolutely his fault for a lot of them. He would keep the Brown stuff out the media for a long time until he didn’t feel he had to anymore because he had another option. He does the same shit every time.

I don’t buy a lot of the bs coming out about Pickens that are “you don’t even know!!!” Type of shit.

This is a fan base that had a f***ing cop spread homophobic rumours about Stewart because a bloke that likes like us being a Qb for some, wasn’t right. Media make up a ton of shit when teams tell them to. He’ll we’ve seen NHL gm’s admit they put out false shit to inflate value, JR was one of them.

If Pickens flames out like Brown, Clayturd, or DJ, you all have valid points. But I am betting Pickens won’t and he will thrive in Dallas.

 

[pistolpete11]

I don’t buy a lot of the bs coming out about Pickens that are “you don’t even know!!!” Type of shit.

The thing is...we saw it on the field with Pickens.

I don't really care to argue whether Tomlin could have done a better job of managing him, but is it really that hard to believe Pickens was showing up to games late when he puts it out there for the whole world to see on Sundays?

Dude's a headcase. If someone can get through to him or at least keep him happy enough he doesn't cause too many problems, they are going to have one heck of a WR. But he's always going to be a headcase.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The thing is...we saw it on the field with Pickens.

I don't really care to argue whether Tomlin could have done a better job of managing him, but is it really that hard to believe Pickens was showing up to games late when he puts it out there for the whole world to see on Sundays?

Dude's a headcase. If someone can get through to him or at least keep him happy enough he doesn't cause too many problems, they are going to have one heck of a WR. But he's always going to be a headcase.

Yeah I can understand being mad about the Steelers not drafting a WR before trading Pickens, but it genuinely blows my mind that there are any Steelers fans mad that he was traded. Between the crash outs on the sidelines, quitting on plays, fighting other players and fans and refusing to block on running plays, why would anyone miss him?

His entire skillset was made redundant with trading for Metcalf, who's better than Pickens anyway.

 

[xlm34]

I’m not sure what more Pickens needed to do to make Steelers fans realize he’s not a dude you give 30 million dollars per year to. Part of the reason he fell in the draft was because of maturity and attitude problems and then he comes into the league and lives up to that reputation.

I don’t think he goes the way of Claypool/Johnson where he’ll be out of the league shortly after this trade. But I don’t know if any team is going to put up with him long term if he doesn’t grow up.

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[pistolpete11]

Yeah I can understand being mad about the Steelers not drafting a WR before trading Pickens, but it genuinely blows my mind that there are any Steelers fans mad that he was traded. Between the crash outs on the sidelines, quitting on plays, fighting other players and fans and refusing to block on running plays, why would anyone miss him?

His entire skillset was made redundant with trading for Metcalf, who's better than Pickens anyway.

Or if there was a history of these guys proving the Steelers wrong, but it's been the exact opposite.

Like...OK, sure, they were right about AB, Bryant, Claypool, and DJ, but THIS time? This time is different.

 

[Pens x]

I am not mad they traded him, I am more annoyed with the lack of a back up plan, and we will now likely limp into the season with one legitimate receiver…again.

Khan is a f***ing moron

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Now the fact that they dont have a QB is completely their fault. But acting like the majority of NFL success is anything but talent at the right positions is just silly.

Who is the lone person who is part of "procuring the talent"? I'll give you a hint: he's been here for 19 years and has a big say in who they draft. This trend has transcended 2 GM's.

So the drafting and development of players is all on Tomlin. He's been running the show so he needs to be evaluated on what he's done. And what he's done is a shitty job of identifying the right players, developing them and ensuring they're good teammates.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

I'm admittedly probably one of the more annoyingly pessimistic opinions on the state of the team, yet I feel like even I give them more credit than what you're stating here.

I simply cannot believe they truly think their goal every year is to win a Super Bowl when they're putting out the caliber of quarterback they have over the past 5 years on the field. Not even I think they're that delusional.

They have to know when they're throwing out Hodges, Rudolph, Trubisky, Pickett, etc. that they don't have any realistic chance of making the Super Bowl. They know at best they might make a wild card game and then likely hope to stay competitive in said game.

They simply have to have different motivations behind doing what they do year to year, and it's can't logically be winning a Super Bowl, unless you think again they have no brains.

I find it far more believable the Rooney's simply don't want to commit to extended losing seasons trying to draft a franchise QB for fear of loss in gate revenue, or the potential loss of team culture, or whatever justification you can think of that isn't they're just that oblivious to the reality of them actually making a Super Bowl any of these past seasons.

I mean, when was the last time a wild card team simply made the playoffs and then went on an unexpected championship run? This isn't hockey, pretty much the perceived contenders in the regular season usually make the Super Bowl.

Sure, there's the occasional outlier. Washington as a 6th seed made the NFC championship game last season, but nobody thought that was a longshot beforehand due to how good Daniels turned out. I think the last team that was a genuine surprise to make the Super Bowl was Cincinnati, and only because of how quickly they did so after having drafted 1st overall, not because of the quality of their roster. The 5th seed Bucs won the Super Bowl the year before that, but that result had the Brady factor.

Long story short, there are very few genuine surprise teams winning Super Bowl's today.

So again, unless the Steelers are just that unique in their delusion, they know going into these seasons they aren't real threats in the post season.

They clearly are not building the team each year to win championships, and they clearly until maybe this year aren't punting seasons to improve future prospects. So what has their goal actually been then?

You both are right
Yes, you need to have a winning record to make the playoffs and subsequently the SB, yadda yadda.

The issue is Tomlin's paradigm. He believes football is similar to hockey, that a team can get on a hot run and be that Cinderella story who slays all the giants as the underdog for 4 straight games.

And while Washington was the 6th seed, they advanced bc they had a legit QB who is going to do amazing things in this league. Plus the NFC was a bloodbath of good teams. The AFC has only 2/3.

But football isn't as random as hockey. You have to have solid coaching and this is where Tomlin will always falter: he doesn't hire good assistants because he wants to be perceived as the smartest guy in the room.

Art Smith was the only qualified bona fide candidate on any side of the ball in the past 10 years. That's bonkers and inexcusable.