OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Off Season We dont need a QB Edition

[TNT87]

Thomas
Revel
Sanders
Kaleb Johnson
Ayomanor
Watts
Milroe

One of these and I’ll be pleasantly surprised with how the draft is going.

If they don't go for QB I would love Revel

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Yeah I hate how casually people are just saying "just wait for 2026". The Steelers will likely be around 9-8 or 10-7 next year once again and will have to likely trade a 2027 1st to move up to #10 to get in a position to draft a QB next year.

Sanders is a gift to them at #83. You're saving 2 1st rounders if Sanders pans out as your new QB.

A gift for who? You still pushing for a guy you have not seen play

 

[Ryder71]

Dammitt!

 

[Empoleon8771]

Thomas to the Jets there, damn. He was the CB that I really had an eye on.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

If they don't go for QB I would love Revel

I don’t know why he is dropping but yes I want

 

[Peat]

I don't think anyone denies that Sanders' ceiling isn't that high, it's a good but not great starting QB. We just saw Dart go in round 1 and I don't think his ceiling is particularly higher than Sanders'. Sanders is just sliding because of the whole circus around him that Dart doesn't have.

I'm not a Dart fan but I can hear the arguments. I can hear the argument that his rushing juice and zippy arm can add up to an interesting package that's pushing into great. I can hear it with Shough.

Sanders... I've never heard anyone push the argument in a way that makes sense to me. I can't make it for myself from his traits. There is for me a rather concerning gulf of opinion as to his processing speed, and when people do talk about it there's as many people slamming his lack of anticipation and the rest of it. as praising his processing speed.

To me, this totally makes sense as a response to his ceiling. And I don't want to be the team that disagrees. Yeah, the personality stuff is probably helping push stuff..... but that's where it starts

 

[Booker T]

The Steelers obviously.

If Sanders pans out, he'll likely be a solid starter while you save the 2 1sts it would cost to draft a QB next year.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Yes I think it's very obvious that Sanders is falling due to his horrid interviews combined with questions about his talent. That doesn't mean he's not a no brainer pick for the Steelers at #83.

 

[Snooki Stackhouse]

The Steelers traded up for bush. The bills traded up for Allen same with maholmes in Kc from the playoffs

Maybe. If a lot of teams need QBs it might not work out. And a lot of teams seem to be accumulating for next year.

 

[JTG]

If we trade a 2026 2nd and our 4th we can have 78, 83, 89 if Houston wants a 2nd next season.

 

[OnMyOwn]

I’d still take him here, tbh. We need QB’s and might as well see what he’s like away from his father.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Maybe. If a lot of teams need QBs it might not work out. And a lot of teams seem to be accumulating for next year.

Because next year class even without Manning is better than this

 

[Ryder71]

Dammitt another corner I like gone!

 

[Empoleon8771]

Revel to the Cowboys

 

[Booker T]

Yes I think it's very obvious that Sanders is falling due to his horrid interviews combined with questions about his talent. That doesn't mean he's not a no brainer pick for the Steelers at #83.

Does Rodgers still sign if they draft Sanders?

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Does Rodgers still sign if they draft Sanders?

Why not? Sanders as a third rounder is obviously a developmental pick.

 

[Andy99]

The QBs are dropping…they’ll get their pick tomorrow…I wouldn’t waste a third round pick on any of them..

 

[T1K]

They should draft Kaleb Johnson and push QB another round.

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Yes I think it's very obvious that Sanders is falling due to his horrid interviews combined with questions about his talent. That doesn't mean he's not a no brainer pick for the Steelers at #83.

I agree with you. I don’t want the drama of Papa Sanders around the team. But if he is there at 83 you take him.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This idea that the 2026 QB class is guaranteed to be great is a myth. There are like 6 really interesting QB prospects between Manning, Iamaleava, Allar, Sellers, Nussmeier and Klubnik, and it's entirely possible that Manning, Iamaleava and Sellers don't declare for the draft.

There should be a lot of talent between the 2026 and 2027 QB classes, but we have no clue who's actually going to declare for next year nor how well guys will improve. Being forced to use a 1st on Sam Leavitt next year (if he even declares for the draft) isn't a better outcome than drafting Sanders at #83 this year.

 

[Shaftception]

Yeah the Steelers "will just wait for 2026"

And so are the browns, the Giants, the raiders, the Rams, Colts assuming AR busts, Jets assuming they suck again with Fields...

When the Steelers go 9-8, Rodgers retires, the Rams leapfrog them with their draft capital, and all the other teams stunk for an extra year to sit there and take the 3-4 guys worth a damn, maybe Sanders or Milroe make sense here.

In my opinion, a smart front office wouldn't panic draft a Sanders (who has no unique physical trait you'd hope to develop) or Milroe (actually has a potential elite physical trait but needs a lot of development in the intermediate throwing area, a multi-year project at the least) just because other teams have apparently agreed next year's class is the better option.

What exactly is the hurry? Nothing they do in the next 3 years is winning them a Super Bowl in that timespan anyway, they've already wasted Cam and Watt's careers, that worry is past the point. They should only be considering what's best for the next decade.

So what exactly is so worrisome if the top QB's next year are taken before they have the opportunity to do so? Trade for assets in the next class after that then.

Manning, who will be the most sought after due to the name let's not kid ourselves, likely isn't going to declare for this coming draft anyway, at least it would be a gamble after only one season of starting under his belt, could happen but not the most likely as of now.

If they truly believe Sanders or Milroe have a future here, they should draft them. I don't believe they're worth drafting, out of the two gun to my head I'd take a swing at Milroe just for the small chance he could develop into the next Lamar, but you don't draft them just because you're scared you won't get any of the worthwhile QB's in next year's class. If they drop far enough to be worth taking just for the extreme perceived value of it, sure take them then, at that point there won't be any worry of sunk cost potentially holding them hostage should they have a better shot at a better prospect in upcoming drafts.

This team isn't winning jack anytime soon, they have plenty of time to be patient for when the opportunity to draft a QB prospect that's actually worth a damn is realistically available. Two drafts isn't that long to wait.

I'm not a Dart fan but I can hear the arguments. I can hear the argument that his rushing juice and zippy arm can add up to an interesting package that's pushing into great. I can hear it with Shough.

Sanders... I've never heard anyone push the argument in a way that makes sense to me. I can't make it for myself from his traits. There is for me a rather concerning gulf of opinion as to his processing speed, and when people do talk about it there's as many people slamming his lack of anticipation and the rest of it. as praising his processing speed.

To me, this totally makes sense as a response to his ceiling. And I don't want to be the team that disagrees. Yeah, the personality stuff is probably helping push stuff..... but that's where it starts

Exactly.

Draft a QB who might, even if only a small % chance, develop into a QB who has the skills to compete against the gauntlet that is the top QB's in the AFC for at least the next 5+ years.

Sanders doesn't have the ceiling to do that, drafting him is a waste.

 

[Peat]

Does Rodgers still sign if they draft Sanders?

Does he sign if they don't? Who bloody knows with him.

 

[Snooki Stackhouse]

Two picks left and Sanders, Milroe, Kaleb Johnson all still here. Defense and WR picked pretty clean. Maybe Ayomanor would be a nice pick if they go WR.

 

[Empoleon8771]

In my opinion, a smart front office wouldn't panic draft a Sanders (who has no unique physical trait you'd hope to develop) or Milroe (actually has a potential elite physical trait but needs a lot of development in the intermediate throwing area, a multi-year project at the least) just because other teams have apparently agreed next year's class is the better option.

What exactly is the hurry? Nothing they do in the next 3 years is winning them a Super Bowl in that timespan anyway, they've already wasted Cam and Watt's careers, that worry is past the point. They should only be considering what's best for the next decade.

So what exactly is so worrisome if the top QB's next year are taken before they have the opportunity to do so? Trade for assets in the next class after that then.

So you don't actually have any solutions for addressing the QB situation then? Just endlessly kicking the can down the road because "who cares, we already wasted the careers of TJ and Heyward" is absolutely horrendous logic for building a team.

 

[Peat]

They should draft Kaleb Johnson and push QB another round.

At this point it looks like nobody else wants Sanders to the point you could wait until the 5th or 6th so why not