Jaded, did you get a profile of Milroe and Sanders confused? Because Sanders is less athletic than Pickett and is basically a vanilla pocket passer where the hope is it's the best goddamned vanilla you ever tasted.
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Jaded, did you get a profile of Milroe and Sanders confused? Because Sanders is less athletic than Pickett and is basically a vanilla pocket passer where the hope is it's the best goddamned vanilla you ever tasted.
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And if he pans out, getting him for a late 2nd rounder is insanely good value.
Spending a 2026 3rd to jump the Jets and Raiders is an absolute no brainer if Sanders somehow slides.
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He is sliding for a reason if his name was John smith he would be a day 3 pick based on tape and scouting interviews.
Can’t believe after watching the KP show people are interested in the temu version
What do you mean by value? He's not a particularly good QB, why would using a second on him be a good idea? He's likely going to end up a 3rd string QB, which is a 6th or 7th rounder.
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Empoleon8771
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No, he's sliding because of his personality. He's consistently rated as a mid 1st/late 2nd round talent by scouts.
Because again, even with this weak class, he's ranked as a late 1st/early 2nd round talent.
The only value is how good a player actually is. What you're referring to is perceived value.
Have you actually watched this guy play?
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No, what I'm referring to is the actual value that the publicly available rankings have put him at.
Brugler had him as the #34 ranked prospect in the class. Jeremiah had him as the #20 ranked prospect in the class. PFF had Sanders as the #45 ranked prospect in the class. A vast majority of prospect ratings in this draft have Sanders as a late 1st/early 2nd round talent.
I think we’re reaching the part of the cycle where Sanders got so overrated that he’s now being underrated.
You're not trading stocks that you plan to sell later. Whether a pick is worth it or not depends on how good that player becomes. Which can't be determined at the time of the draft. Like if the Raiders had drafted Russell in the second round, still not a good pick.
You didn't answer if you've watched him play
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Ideally we do not want Benton or Harmon at the nose. I do find Harmon's rushing D grades a bit suspicious for such a big guy. Also...Caldwell, his NT at Oregon, was pretty good.
Harmon's upside is Calais Campbell, in my mind. He has to get more stout against the run though.
Wasn't finding one in 2025...for the 50th time.
Sanders in the 3rd I'd run to the podium.
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Okay, so your comment means literally nothing then. Yeah no shit, any prospect can bust.
I'm a nobody posting on a hockey website. To say my opinion counts for more than the guys getting paid to do this that are saying Sanders is a late 1st/early 2nd round talent would be absolute arrogance.
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I like the Higgins kid from Iowa State but I wouldn’t trade Pickens just to draft him. I also don’t know where he’s projected.
This is an appeal to authority. But it turns out, a lot of people in the NFL are morons anyway.
If you don't have anything constructive to add from your own opinions, you don't have to say anything. I don't think I've said anything about the Steelers potential draft picks aside from knowing Sanders and Milroe are bad, because I've watched them. I choose better ways to spend my time than watching draft prospects, or worse, regurgitating what talking heads say about prospects.
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I know Sanders has his flaws, but the absolute hardline some of you are putting on him is absolutely ridiculous. This team has Mason Rudolph as its starting QB. They have no QB prospects anywhere even close to the team. Yet the idea of using a 3rd or 2 3rds (which is probably what trading up to get Sanders would cost) is somehow unacceptable to get Sanders? Seriously? You can be entirely skeptical of Sanders while still thinking that the "screw it, let's throw some shit at the wall and see if it sticks" strategy to address the QB position is well worth it at that price.
I get that everyone here fetishizes the 2026 QB class, but we have no idea who will actually declare for that draft nor do we have any idea if the Steelers would even be able to get any of the good QBs in the class next year. Saying no to any sort of QB gamble so you can hold out for this mythical perfect QB is just how you end up not getting a QB.
It's not "appeal to authority" to acknowledge that I'm less qualified and less educated than the people getting paid money to have this be their entire career. To suggest that you're smarter than they are because you can watch games on your couch is just hilariously arrogant, to the point where you're not even someone worth talking to.
I get that everyone here fetishizes the 2026 QB class, but we have no idea who will actually declare for that draft nor do we have any idea if the Steelers would even be able to get any of the good QBs in the class next year. Saying no to any sort of QB gamble so you can hold out for this mythical perfect QB is just how you end up not getting a QB.
It's not "appeal to authority" to acknowledge that I'm less qualified and less educated than the people getting paid money to have this be their entire career. To suggest that you're smarter than they are because you can watch games on your couch is just hilariously arrogant, to the point where you're not even someone worth talking to.
The outcome of a pick isn’t the same as value. Sanders with a late third would be good “value” regardless of whether or not he works out.
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I will wait and see - for all we know Sanders is the first name announced and he ends up in his rough big board range - but I think it's possible he will continue to slide because
a) It doesn't matter what the consensus thinks; there's, what, maybe six teams that have any real need for him here and if they have third round grades on him the dude best get comfy.
b) QBs are weird and selling a GM on a 1st/2nd low upside high floor QB could be pretty hard for some orgs. Who wants to trust their future to a guy they believe has no elite traits?
And maybe I'm projecting because I struggle with the idea of him even in the 3rd round. But a 1st/2nd QB usually goes in the 1st. If Sanders can't do that in a year where the QB supply/demand is so wonky, why? I struggle to see a better answer than they're not happy trusting their futures to his talent level...
a) It doesn't matter what the consensus thinks; there's, what, maybe six teams that have any real need for him here and if they have third round grades on him the dude best get comfy.
b) QBs are weird and selling a GM on a 1st/2nd low upside high floor QB could be pretty hard for some orgs. Who wants to trust their future to a guy they believe has no elite traits?
And maybe I'm projecting because I struggle with the idea of him even in the 3rd round. But a 1st/2nd QB usually goes in the 1st. If Sanders can't do that in a year where the QB supply/demand is so wonky, why? I struggle to see a better answer than they're not happy trusting their futures to his talent level...
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Because he's a swiss army knife that is totally opposite of DK and would compliment whatever they are doing with Wilson and Austin because Burden can play anywhere.
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