bigdaddyk88
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Yeah if it Smith making this pick it Shough he absolutely loves him but I don’t think a 26 year old works as a qb 3 behind Rodgers and Mason
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bigdaddyk88
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If your interested in milroe in round 2 like say Jets Vegas maybe they trade back into the 1st for his 5th year option. Levis went early 2nd and was in the green room
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For this year, based on their drafting under Khan and the stockpiling of comp picks next year, I'm not too concerned about it. They could always f*** it up, but I've got some faith.
Next year, I think they will take a shot at someone regardless if I think it's a good idea or not. Just have to hope there is a guy that's worthy of it. So far, looks good to me, but to Peat's point, a lot can change in a year.
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I think people are super overreacting to how QB needy the NFL is right now and how it will cause them to look at this draft. This draft feels more like the Pickett draft, where only 1 QB went in either round 1 or 2 and most GMs viewed the class as terrible.
You can convince me that Dart will go in round 1, but Milroe is a fantasy suggestion. I can't even see a team that would make sense to take him in round 1. The earliest I can realistically see him going is #68 to LV to sit behind Geno Smith for a few years.
Maybe I can squint and see the Giants taking him at #34, he can get a full redshirt year behind Wilson and Winston and just focus on developing. But that just seems really bizarre the Giants would do that over just taking Sanders with their own 1st.
You can convince me that Dart will go in round 1, but Milroe is a fantasy suggestion. I can't even see a team that would make sense to take him in round 1. The earliest I can realistically see him going is #68 to LV to sit behind Geno Smith for a few years.
Maybe I can squint and see the Giants taking him at #34, he can get a full redshirt year behind Wilson and Winston and just focus on developing. But that just seems really bizarre the Giants would do that over just taking Sanders with their own 1st.
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Buddy Bizarre
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IDK...I think Tomlin loves him some Milroe. Not saying they'll take him with #21, but I could see a trade down to the 2nd round for him.
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I'm not reacting to a projection of how QB needy the NFL is right now tho, I'm reacting to the NFL signaling that it thinks Jalen Milroe is going in the 1st round. He's a borderline DND in my book with 3rd round stock but if the NFL is gonna tell me I should adjust my expectations of where he will go, I'm going to listen.
And tbh, NFL team falls in love with great athlete with undercooked QB skills isn't really a story I have to try hard to believe. I'm a little surprised that it hasn't leaked out prior to this if his NFL team stock is this high, but that's about it. If Anthony Richardson can go 4OA, Milroe can go 1st round. Just hope that the team doing it isn't the Steelers.
Also, just digging up this post from you regarding your sometimes knowledgeable friend
"the Steelers love Milroe and are really hoping he falls to the late 2nd/early 3rd to take him"
If a team is hoping a guy falls to the late 2nd, that implies it's not unimaginable for him to be a late 1st rounder, and that the Steelers might be the team that does it. They've met with him even more than they have with Dart.
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It has? Then why is Tomlin still here when most fans want him gone and why are they pursuing Rodgers when most fans don't want him? I really don't think optics play into it.
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That was true from one of my friends, but that was a while ago wasn't it? I don't think Milroe's end of season performance and pro day helped his case at all.
I just don't see any team that makes sense for taking him in the 1st round. The only teams that stick out as options are teams that have too high of a 1st to take him in round 1, or won't take him over someone like Sanders or Dart. I just really can't see Milroe going earlier than a mid 2nd.
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Go onto FB or Reddit and tell me what the temperature is regarding Tomlin? The public and much of the MSM still holds him in high regard. Hell Ryan Clark from ESPN went to bat for him just a couple weeks ago.
And we'll just disagree if you don't think optics are a huge factor for Art. Pray tell, why Canada was the only coach with term on their contract to be fired? I'm not being hyperbolic- he's literally the only one! It's because he became a national meme. Hell the fans at Pens games were chanting it.
When "Fire Tomlin" starts coming down during gameday please let me know and we'll revisit this. Because right now, it definitely appears perception is important to Art.
Jan 22nd.
And looking at reports on Milroe's pro day, I found this
Lots and lots of salt, but I can't see anyone saying he bombed it. The combine, yeah, screwed that, but pro day looks good. Rumours that he had good private sessions with the Browns and Saints.
Does it make sense? Pretty wild to me. More sense if you think that, say, the Browns/Jets/Saints all like him and want to be head of the queue to get him with their 2nd pick - in which case, we're talking trade up. And if the Steelers still like him enough to hope he falls beyond that - and if they are unimpressed with the DL class at the top and like the depth - then... I hope not, but too many things seem to be pointing to it as a real live possibility.
Also, if I was the sort of offensive mind who thinks I can train up an athlete's mind but I can't turn a thinker athletic, and I really want an athlete, then Milroe over Sanders/Dart makes sense.
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I am not using FB or Reddit to judge anything but the morons on FB and Reddit (and actually not using them for even that as I am not going to either toxic place). The reason they didn't fire anyone but Canada is that Art believes in Tomlin and is a fanboy of his. Same reason nothing changed this offseason. If optics are such a big deal, then the optics of not winning a playoff game would have resulted in changes. They didn't.
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Buddy Bizarre
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Then what are you basing your position of "most fans dislike Tomlin"?
Bc I'd say what you see here (HF Boards) regarding Tomlin is not prevalent. My BIL and best friend (Bears/Jets fans respectively) are dumbfounded when I rip Tomlin. And while those guys aren't Steeler fans I've found it's best to keep my mouth shut about him if I'm ever at a Steelers bar.
Milroe is going to be a bust…even more so if the Steelers are interested in him because they have no clue how to draft QBs, or develop them lol
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Lots of places have Milroe on the top 50 picks and he has the highest ceiling of any Qb in this class. I know he’s not Hurts but Hurts was a 2nd pick and been in 2 sb. Levis was a 2nd round pick. Richardson was a top 5 pick it only takes 1 team to fall in love
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Milroe is another Justin Fields/early last season's Anthony Richardson.
I want no part of this dude unless it's in the 4th round.
Tbh, the more I look at it, the more I'm bracing myself for QB. These are the non-QB dudes with first round grades to dine with Tomlin -
Egbuka, Jihaad Campbell (LB), Mykel Williams (265 lbs Edge)
Guys where he was at their pro day but didn't dine -
Jalon Walker (the is he a LB is he an edge guy), Malakai Starks (S), Tyler Booker (G)
Guys who've visited
Matthew Golden, Nick Emmanwori, Shemar Stewart
It's hard to see what they want to do other than QB. They're all over the top safeties, they've looked at the top slot WRs despite not really having a WR vacancy, there's an odd interest in 265 lb Edge Rushers given their prototype and stacked room... I mean, I don't really understand their moves, but there's nothing there making me think "this is the hole they're attacking", at which point the interest in Dart and Milroe has me going "weeelll"...
Here's to them bring in the top DTs this week.
Egbuka, Jihaad Campbell (LB), Mykel Williams (265 lbs Edge)
Guys where he was at their pro day but didn't dine -
Jalon Walker (the is he a LB is he an edge guy), Malakai Starks (S), Tyler Booker (G)
Guys who've visited
Matthew Golden, Nick Emmanwori, Shemar Stewart
It's hard to see what they want to do other than QB. They're all over the top safeties, they've looked at the top slot WRs despite not really having a WR vacancy, there's an odd interest in 265 lb Edge Rushers given their prototype and stacked room... I mean, I don't really understand their moves, but there's nothing there making me think "this is the hole they're attacking", at which point the interest in Dart and Milroe has me going "weeelll"...
Here's to them bring in the top DTs this week.
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Willis needed time like a lot of these super talented guys. I still question his ability to read defenses adequately enough to be a starter, but he has talent.
I think backing up is still what is looking to be the best route forward. If we could use 21 and 83 to get 3 picks 40-70, that'd be ideal. Used ChatGPT and didn't validate, but maybe using 3rds. I think Pickens is probably worth 500-700 points. A pick in the next years is valued at a round less (ex. 3rd in 2026 is worth a 4th in 2025).
Something to chew on. I have seen 21 and Pickens going to Philly for their picks and a swap of their 1 next year with our 2. I liked the sounds of that. Put Pickens on the next lap of UGA and gets him out of the AFC. Philly can kill their two biggest needs with Pickens and probably Mykell Williams (UGA).
I think backing up is still what is looking to be the best route forward. If we could use 21 and 83 to get 3 picks 40-70, that'd be ideal. Used ChatGPT and didn't validate, but maybe using 3rds. I think Pickens is probably worth 500-700 points. A pick in the next years is valued at a round less (ex. 3rd in 2026 is worth a 4th in 2025).
Something to chew on. I have seen 21 and Pickens going to Philly for their picks and a swap of their 1 next year with our 2. I liked the sounds of that. Put Pickens on the next lap of UGA and gets him out of the AFC. Philly can kill their two biggest needs with Pickens and probably Mykell Williams (UGA).
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The Eagles have a need at WR with Brown, Smith, and a gameplan of feed Barkley?
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That's true. And they can't do anything with Brown because his dead cap would be like...60m bucks.
If we’re trading Pickens, the goal should be to get a 2nd round pick or high 3rd at worst in this draft in addition to keeping all of our draft picks…otherwise it doesn’t make sense to trade him…it’s not about next year’s draft and if it was, then keep him half the season and trade him for a swap of picks at deadline for the 2026 draft…
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I think Pickens is a 1st value all day long, but I'd be happy with a 2 and a 3.
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It’s weird they are telegraphing they want to trade down and want to go DL and DB then RB than DT on day 3
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I know these top 30 visits aren't sacred but from this list Dart, Stewart, Golden, and Emmanwori are the ones projected closest to our pick 21. Trey Amos expected draft position is 39. Still missing I think 9 guys.
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