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OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: No 3peat for the Swifts

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Empoleon8771 said:
Honestly the only reason I'm critical of Khan right now is if they bring in Rodgers after letting Fields walk for a price they should have paid. If they go into next year with like Wilson and Milton as their QB room, I'm totally fine with that.

I think it's pretty obvious that they're trying to get as many picks as possible for 2026 to have the ammo to trade up for a QB. That said, I'm still going to be mad if this team brings in Rodgers as their QB for this year.
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I hope they don't bring in Rodgers because I can't stand the guy, but I can't bring myself to be critical of something that hasn't happened yet. And as much as I don't want Rodgers, as long as it doesn't negatively affect 2026 and beyond...whatever.
 
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Buddy Bizarre said:
But why would MR come back to a place where Tomlin treated him like garbage and he knows the offensive philosophy is outdated?

Also note that it says the STEELERS reached out to MR- not the other way around.
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He re-signed with them once already after the faux QB competition in 2022. I doubt too many teams are throwing themselves at Rudolph so if he wants a job I’d imagine he can get over it.
 
Basically, lol…we’re the butt of jokes now, thanks AR2


“Marcus Mariota, anyone?

That would be scintillating. Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith could pair his old quarterback with Cordarrelle Patterson and run the finest read option you’ve ever seen.

I’m almost being serious. If this pitiful Steelers quarterback search was a game of musical chairs, Tom Petty’s “Even The Losers” would be the appropriate background song.

This is life after Ben Roethlisberger. This is life after Mike Tomlin struck out looking on Kenny Pickett. Tomlin is 0 for 5 on Big Ben replacements and staring hard at 0 for 6. Maybe 0 for 7. There’s a scenario in which he brings back two of the guys — Russell Wilson, Mason Rudolph — he already struck out on.”
 
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Andy99 said:
Basically, lol…we’re the butt of jokes now, thanks AR2


“Marcus Mariota, anyone?

That would be scintillating. Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith could pair his old quarterback with Cordarrelle Patterson and run the finest read option you’ve ever seen.

I’m almost being serious. If this pitiful Steelers quarterback search was a game of musical chairs, Tom Petty’s “Even The Losers” would be the appropriate background song.

This is life after Ben Roethlisberger. This is life after Mike Tomlin struck out looking on Kenny Pickett. Tomlin is 0 for 5 on Big Ben replacements and staring hard at 0 for 6. Maybe 0 for 7. There’s a scenario in which he brings back two of the guys — Russell Wilson, Mason Rudolph — he already struck out on.”
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Joe, my man, the Tom Petty lyric is "Even the losers get lucky sometimes". Who are we getting lucky with?
 
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Andy99 said:
Basically, lol…we’re the butt of jokes now, thanks AR2


“Marcus Mariota, anyone?

That would be scintillating. Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith could pair his old quarterback with Cordarrelle Patterson and run the finest read option you’ve ever seen.

I’m almost being serious. If this pitiful Steelers quarterback search was a game of musical chairs, Tom Petty’s “Even The Losers” would be the appropriate background song.

This is life after Ben Roethlisberger. This is life after Mike Tomlin struck out looking on Kenny Pickett. Tomlin is 0 for 5 on Big Ben replacements and staring hard at 0 for 6. Maybe 0 for 7. There’s a scenario in which he brings back two of the guys — Russell Wilson, Mason Rudolph — he already struck out on.”
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I mean Kenny Pickett is really the only whiff. Everything else was let’s throw shit at the wall and hope something sticks.
 
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Saying "Tomlin is 0/5 with Ben replacements, and soon to be 0/6" seems pretty stupid when only 1 of the guys (Pickett) was ever suggested as someone who could be a Ben replacement. Pickett was a bust, but why are you expecting that Mitch Trubisky and a 35 year old Russell Wilson are going to be their Ben replacement? That is not what they were brought in to be and expecting that out of them is just about Starkey being an idiot.

The only way they're getting a Ben replacement is by drafting one in round 1. So far, they're 0/1 on that. Saying they're 0/5 with pointing at guys like Mitch Trubisky is a criminally dumb argument.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Saying "Tomlin is 0/5 with Ben replacements, and soon to be 0/6" seems pretty stupid when only 1 of the guys (Pickett) was ever suggested as someone who could be a Ben replacement. Pickett was a bust, but why are you expecting that Mitch Trubisky and a 35 year old Russell Wilson are going to be their Ben replacement? That is not what they were brought in to be and expecting that out of them is just about Starkey being an idiot.

The only way they're getting a Ben replacement is by drafting one in round 1. So far, they're 0/1 on that. Saying they're 0/5 with pointing at guys like Mitch Trubisky is a criminally dumb argument.
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Rudolph was drafted to be a Ben replacement also.
 
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Andy99 said:
Basically, lol…we’re the butt of jokes now, thanks AR2


“Marcus Mariota, anyone?

That would be scintillating. Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith could pair his old quarterback with Cordarrelle Patterson and run the finest read option you’ve ever seen.

I’m almost being serious. If this pitiful Steelers quarterback search was a game of musical chairs, Tom Petty’s “Even The Losers” would be the appropriate background song.

This is life after Ben Roethlisberger. This is life after Mike Tomlin struck out looking on Kenny Pickett. Tomlin is 0 for 5 on Big Ben replacements and staring hard at 0 for 6. Maybe 0 for 7. There’s a scenario in which he brings back two of the guys — Russell Wilson, Mason Rudolph — he already struck out on.”
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People don’t want to face the reality the Steelers f***ed up their succession plan at QB.

So now they will throw out stupid excuses like “you can’t expect them to compete with MR, MT, or being “forced” to draft a QB in a bad yr, robble robble!”

Or my personal favorite “it would have made Big Ben big mads!!”

It’s all horseshit - this current mess was because they failed to plan and we know how that always ends.

As I pointed out yesterday, Packers have had a succession plan in place for over thirty years from Magic Man Majkowski to Love today.

Oh and those two guys in the middle - they got them rings and will both be wearing gold jackets one day.

It wasn’t an accident , it was an org commitment, from one regime to the next.

That’s what happens when an org has a 30+ year commitment to plan for the future at the most important position in football.

This helps ensure they don’t have to look like fools dumpster diving for a QB like the current day laughingstock, Pittsburgh Steelers.
 
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Empoleon8771 said:
Not really, Rudolph was a 3rd rounder from 2018. He may have been viewed as a potential stopgap after Ben retired, but I don't think anyone was viewing Rudolph as a Ben replacement.
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He absolutely was. They even said that they had a 1st round grade on him and viewed him as the starter. What got Rudolph screwed was that they also drafted Dobbs who thought the game at a very high level, but just didn't have the ability. Ben developed a relationship with Dobbs because Dobbs was able to analyze for Ben, Ben developed trust in him, and then saw even lesser of a need to pay attention to Rudolph.

He wasn't being viewed as a replacement after his audition. But before Ben went down, Mason was absolutely viewed as the successor.
 
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JTG said:
He absolutely was. They even said that they had a 1st round grade on him and viewed him as the starter. What got Rudolph screwed was that they also drafted Dobbs who thought the game at a very high level, but just didn't have the ability. Ben developed a relationship with Dobbs because Dobbs was able to analyze for Ben, Ben developed trust in him, and then saw even lesser of a need to pay attention to Rudolph.

He wasn't being viewed as a replacement after his audition. But before Ben went down, Mason was absolutely viewed as the successor.
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I think some context is always missing when people reference this. The quote on Rudolph was “Mason Rudolph had first round grades. We thought he could be an eventual starter at some point.”

It may not seem like a big difference but the way the Steelers assigned grades at the time was 6+ people graded him — scouts, position coach, OC, HC, GM. So who knows who had a first round grade on him - if it was Tomlin then uh oh. If it was anything else then all those people are gone.
 
Pickett was the only whiff, but it was a bad, entirely predictable whiff. I would have rather gone with Trubisky-Rudolph than Pickett.

They should have just taken their medicine in 2019 when Ben was hurt and given themselves a shot at someone like Herbert or Love in 2020. But no, they had to trade their 1st and play Tomlinball to keep NHALS alive. Shit, even doing what they did, they had a shot at Hurts but took Claypool instead lol.
 
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pistolpete11 said:
Pickett was the only whiff, but it was a bad, entirely predictable whiff. I would have rather gone with Trubisky-Rudolph than Pickett.

They should have just taken their medicine in 2019 when Ben was hurt and given themselves a shot at someone like Herbert or Love in 2020. But no, they had to trade their 1st and play Tomlinball to keep NHALS alive. Shit, even doing what they did, they had a shot at Hurts but took Claypool instead lol.
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Exactly.

They had a 38 yr old QB with an elbow injury - the writing was on the wall and the 2020 draft was an ideal time to take a QB.

They would have seen the huge payoff with the blockbuster KC Mahomes move - could have been bold and went for Herbert.

They were picking 18th (suspect even higher without Fitz deal), so would have been costly but not backbreaking.

They could have drafted Love or Hurts.

But they had tunnel vision to protect Tomlin’s streak and moved a first for a f***ing safety.

Overall point - the Steelers created this mess for themselves - it wasn’t some unfortunate twist of fate or bad luck.
 
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pistolpete11 said:
Pickett was the only whiff, but it was a bad, entirely predictable whiff. I would have rather gone with Trubisky-Rudolph than Pickett.

They should have just taken their medicine in 2019 when Ben was hurt and given themselves a shot at someone like Herbert or Love in 2020. But no, they had to trade their 1st and play Tomlinball to keep NHALS alive. Shit, even doing what they did, they had a shot at Hurts but took Claypool instead lol.
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KP was the only pick that was after Ben. The goal was to extend the ben window it’s why Colbert went after wr every year and rb in round 1
 
xlm34 said:
I think some context is always missing when people reference this. The quote on Rudolph was “Mason Rudolph had first round grades. We thought he could be an eventual starter at some point.”

It may not seem like a big difference but the way the Steelers assigned grades at the time was 6+ people graded him — scouts, position coach, OC, HC, GM. So who knows who had a first round grade on him - if it was Tomlin then uh oh. If it was anything else then all those people are gone.
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I will guarantee you every single one of those people is still there lol.
 
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Colonel Mustard said:
Colbert should have retired years before he did
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Hindsight, he felt he was doing everyone a favor, but it just made everything worse. Colbert lost his mojo after 2012, which I'm almost 100% sure that is when they started doing 1 year deals with him.

You cannot have someone in a sports organization with one foot in and one foot out. It doesn't work that way...at least not to be successful.
 
Mr Jiggyfly said:
Exactly.

They had a 38 yr old QB with an elbow injury - the writing was on the wall and the 2020 draft was an ideal time to take a QB.

They would have seen the huge payoff with the blockbuster KC Mahomes move - could have been bold and went for Herbert.

They were picking 18th (suspect even higher without Fitz deal), so would have been costly but not backbreaking.

They could have drafted Love or Hurts.

But they had tunnel vision to protect Tomlin’s streak and moved a first for a f***ing safety.

Overall point - the Steelers created this mess for themselves - it wasn’t some unfortunate twist of fate or bad luck.
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Face it- if you magically had drafted Mahommes, you wouldn't see his full potential like we're witnessing now.

Tomlin couldn't organize a 2 car parade, let alone an offense for a generational QB.
 
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