OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Its January and we are still talking about Handball!?! Currently 10-6
- Thread starter Zirakzigil
- Start date
This org would’ve found a way to waste Justin Herbert just like the Chargers have.
NewAgeOutlaw
Belie Dat!
Add having Dan Moore 1 on 1 with Hendrickson all night with no chip to the "what the f*** were they thinking/how could an NFL coaching staff be this inept?" file.
The left side of the pocket was collapsing immediately all night.
The left side of the pocket was collapsing immediately all night.
ChaosAgent
Registered User
- May 8, 2018
- 18,672
- 12,709
I think they could do all of that stuff (all WR/DB, trade Pickens, let go of Wilson) but they won't trade Watt. Even though it's the right thing to do, it acknowledges taking a step back to take a step forward which we simply won't get in Tomlin purgatory.
Also to reference a conversation from the start of December...
Did things get ugly enough that we no longer want Russell Wilson as QB next year? Because I think I'm there if they don't beat Baltimore. I think it'd be a real though bring back PR wise, and I don't think the talent at this point is sufficient for me to want the team to go through with it. I don't think it's all his fault, or anywhere near, but getting punked by the Bengals is enough for me to flip the switch.
(I see in the time it took for me to type this that yeah, seems everyone is there).
Oh yeah, that's all I was getting at. Maybe in more pro-Tomlin spaces too.
In the Steelers front office... I dunno tbh. They've been super loyal and in love with him, but Rooney sounded pretty impatient for his playoff win last year. I'm sure they'll bring out the platitudes, but I won't be surprised if they're mixed with a sharper "we need results now".
Did things get ugly enough that we no longer want Russell Wilson as QB next year? Because I think I'm there if they don't beat Baltimore. I think it'd be a real though bring back PR wise, and I don't think the talent at this point is sufficient for me to want the team to go through with it. I don't think it's all his fault, or anywhere near, but getting punked by the Bengals is enough for me to flip the switch.
(I see in the time it took for me to type this that yeah, seems everyone is there).
Oh yeah, that's all I was getting at. Maybe in more pro-Tomlin spaces too.
In the Steelers front office... I dunno tbh. They've been super loyal and in love with him, but Rooney sounded pretty impatient for his playoff win last year. I'm sure they'll bring out the platitudes, but I won't be surprised if they're mixed with a sharper "we need results now".
Their splits with Watt are insane. That’s the only way to successfully tank, but if you do that you are rebuilding the locker room/team culture from scratch. I’m not sure Tomlin is up to the task for that. They’d rather be average until the next superstar comes along.
Goalie_Bob
1992 Vezina (2nd)
Russ ain’t it. Atrocious decisions at the end of the game and for most of it. Guy looks cooked.
No way I give him more than like 5mil next season. Sign Fields for the same money.
No way another team pays him more than backup money.
Draft a kid in the mid rounds.
No way I give him more than like 5mil next season. Sign Fields for the same money.
No way another team pays him more than backup money.
Draft a kid in the mid rounds.
ChaosAgent
Registered User
- May 8, 2018
- 18,672
- 12,709
Yes.
I know you aren't a believer in QB mobility but even with Burrow you can see the escapability leading to big plays and 3rd down conversions. Wilson's body is betraying him. He also is all "3 pointers and layups" e.g., no intermediate. Finally, he is short and across the NFL there is a new emphasis on batted passes.
I need a QB to be "college frat star" athletic at least or be Tom Brady from a vision standpoint. Wilson is trending towards a slightly more mobile version of late career Ben.
Beauner
Registered User
That’s why I’m not totally out on Russ. Smith is practically telegraphing their game script and play calling.
For all the talk about tanking, I don’t think it’s as viable a strategy in the NFL as people think it is.
This teams best shot to turn things around and get over the hump is to go balls to the wall next time a good QB becomes available.
This teams best shot to turn things around and get over the hump is to go balls to the wall next time a good QB becomes available.
SomeDude
Registered User
Tomlin said they shouldn’t look as the playoffs as a clean slate and learn from the last 4 games.
Russ says everyone is happy they now have a clean slate and everyone is 0-0.
Glad we’re all on the same page.
Russ says everyone is happy they now have a clean slate and everyone is 0-0.
Glad we’re all on the same page.
Coastal Kev
There will be "I told you so's" Bet on it
I guess they didn't make enough routine plays routinely tonight to win , another nonsensical statement used by Tomlin tonight.
ChaosAgent
Registered User
- May 8, 2018
- 18,672
- 12,709
It really doesn't matter how they feel about it.
But I'm glad you point out the hypocrisy and meaninglessness of these press conferences, the field of play in which Tomlin is elite.
Colonel Mustard
Registered User
- Dec 26, 2017
- 2,815
- 2,223
SomeDude
Registered User
I will also point out that Wilson always still being in full gear for his post game pressers is weird.
See, the Burrow vs Wilson comp there screams out to be brain over brawn. Wilson still looks like a better athlete than Burrow to me. I reckon he'd beat him on the combine test if they both did it tomorrow. But Burrow's sense of when to go and where to go is pretty good, while Wilson's just looks absolutely cooked.
I don't think tanking is a great strategy in the NFL either.
But I think they're going there in a few years without something special happening anyway. Which raises questions about the preference of a controlled explosion vs continuing to chuck shit in there and crossing fingers, although I'm sure we're all 95% certain on what the Steelers will do.
Ryder71
Registered User
- Nov 24, 2017
- 25,081
- 11,966
A positive from it is that it exposed Wilson as a fraud who has run extremely good at times this year.
Jaded-Fan
Registered User
Why?
So Tomlin can bring in another Matt Canada clone?
Tomlin keeps bringing in the same guy. Just different names.
Ryder71
Registered User
- Nov 24, 2017
- 25,081
- 11,966
Arthur Smith sucks. Gotta try somethin different. If Rooney doesn't make big changes this team will become pre 70's steelers bad!
He was bad and I don't want him back. But there were like 4-5 blatant drops. That's not on him.
#LetRusscook
ChaosAgent
Registered User
- May 8, 2018
- 18,672
- 12,709
Wilson could not get a yard on a QB sneak where the defense had 4 down linemen. He is cooked athletically. He is also undersized, so his vision is compromised and his passes are constantly getting batted down.
