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I might buy this if VJ were actually a good blocker. I didn't notice against the Broncos, but he was terrible blocking against the Falcons.
OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: 5 and 2 Justin who? Hand the Fields to Wilson
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It doesn’t matter if he plays or not. They don’t have any skill players at wr that scares you. There running stats are high because Dobbins has broken a few long runs this season he only has 1 rushing td in his career against us. Minshew had over 250 against them passing and it was 16-10 in the 4th
And we have one skilled player lol…difference is whether Fields can keep avoiding the negative plays like sacks and TOs this week…I’m guessing no
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NFL execs cant bet can they???
Guess that video JTP posted was less inspiring. I was like where's big daddy at???
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neither team is going to throw it 30 times
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Yea with Herbert being limited, we're gonna have a game that wouldn't look out of place in the 1940's
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The charges hired greg roman to be there oc they are basically the ravens on offense and defense. They have a 300 pound fb. Herbert as 3 tds passes and as attempted just 5 more passes field ms
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Couple points to this:
1. This organization doesn't have a good track record of matching playing time with capability. Devin Bush is Exhibit 1A. Dude literally avoided contact yet he was taking 100% of the snaps even though he couldn't do his job
2. Related to the above, how else do you explain VJ taking snaps over Pickens? No person in their right mind would say VJ is more talented in any facet of the WR position. So it's either his blocking or he gets ice cream for the fellas after practice.
There is no other reasonable explanation other than his blocking. And I can't disagree with your statement that VJ is the WR God of Blocking. He's not Hines Ward or anything
Here's the snap reel of VJ's blocking vs the Falcons...
That said, BB's point that something is making them look at VJ over Pickens is correct.
But. That might be trying to make VJ work. That might also be an attempt to keep Pickens fresh, or even a minor disciplinary thing to encourage him to get on top of his details on blocking and route running. I don't know it's that they think VJ is an amazing blocker. But. Maybe they do think he's their best. Which is shambolic but there we go.
I would add that Smith has only ever put his WR1 out there for 80% of the snaps by and large, so Pickens isn't far below the Smith standard at 72%... but it's notably enough that some of this is probably them not being happy about some stuff from Pickens.
Which, given where the offence is right now, maybe seems a little stupid. Still, if this encourages Pickens to get more things right and pays off long term...
That said, BB's point that something is making them look at VJ over Pickens is correct.
But. That might be trying to make VJ work. That might also be an attempt to keep Pickens fresh, or even a minor disciplinary thing to encourage him to get on top of his details on blocking and route running. I don't know it's that they think VJ is an amazing blocker. But. Maybe they do think he's their best. Which is shambolic but there we go.
I would add that Smith has only ever put his WR1 out there for 80% of the snaps by and large, so Pickens isn't far below the Smith standard at 72%... but it's notably enough that some of this is probably them not being happy about some stuff from Pickens.
Which, given where the offence is right now, maybe seems a little stupid. Still, if this encourages Pickens to get more things right and pays off long term...
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I don't know why he is out there that much. I just know that it isn't because he is a great blocking WR. It might be that they think he is better at it than he is or at least better at it than the other guys we have. Other than Pickens the WR room sucks. We have to hope Wilson can add something positive but I am skeptical.
Rapoport: Justin Herbert Was 'Extremely Limited' At Thursday's Practice
The Pittsburgh Steelers are scheduled to play quite a few good quarterbacks during the 2024 season. One of those is coming up this Sunday in Justin Herbert, but an ankle injury suffered in Week 2 has put his status in question. Ian Rapoport offered an update on Herbert during Friday morning’s...
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lol this dogshit mentality should get you fired
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That's not even Smith, that's 100% Tomlin's philosphy.
Also I can't believe I'm saying this given all my biases but...
Passing is down
RB rushing is the same
The big clear vulnerability of NFL defences right now is QBs using their legs and you have maybe the single best guy in the NFL for this
Design Justin some runs. Get that boy moving.
If course, it's a hell of a lot easier to get Fields some runs if defences are backing off rather than bringing six man pressures to stop the run.
edit: Also re that Smith video on Boz -
The thing I really don't like is he sounds genuine about not knowing when the HC would send the kicker on. That seems pretty darn sloppy information sharing.
Passing is down
RB rushing is the same
The big clear vulnerability of NFL defences right now is QBs using their legs and you have maybe the single best guy in the NFL for this
Design Justin some runs. Get that boy moving.
If course, it's a hell of a lot easier to get Fields some runs if defences are backing off rather than bringing six man pressures to stop the run.
edit: Also re that Smith video on Boz -
The thing I really don't like is he sounds genuine about not knowing when the HC would send the kicker on. That seems pretty darn sloppy information sharing.
Smith was planning on punting until Tomlin said let Boz kick it for his 1st attempt in ATL. These two are perfect for each other (not in a good way)
I had assumed they'd had Patterson run it on 3rd and six the preceding play because they'd already decided they were in field goal range. If Smith was really thinking "if I don't get first down here we don't get a scoring chance so lets have Patterson run the ball", that's incredible. So incredible I might actually mean the old fashioned literal sense of incredible as in I can't credit that as being real. Surely not... I hope. Wow.
In other news, something the Steelers are great at - being the least analytically advanced. Tied for number two behind an org with only full-time analytics staffer
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Which NFL teams are most, least analytics-advanced? We surveyed 22 staffers around the league
Do the Browns still lead the way in analytics? Which franchises have bought in, and which remain skeptical? We polled NFL teams on advanced data usage.
Ironically with offense down in the league across the board, maybe this is the year a great defense is what matters most. I highly doubt it, but that’s my copium take.
I've started thinking about that too. That maybe the Steelers are smartly getting ahead of a shift in the NFL, and that maybe Fields' limitations are about to matter less compared to everyone else. That the ease with which a high cover defence with a strong pass rush can shut down this current generation of QBs means the smart approach is to get the biggest rock and turn everything into a rock fight.
The obvious problem I see is that it only takes a few teams to mesh and come together to be able to do "your defence doesn't matter" in the playoffs for it to all come crashing down.
But... yeah. The copium might be right here.
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So not severely, then?Rapoport: Justin Herbert Was 'Extremely Limited' At Thursday's Practice
The Pittsburgh Steelers are scheduled to play quite a few good quarterbacks during the 2024 season. One of those is coming up this Sunday in Justin Herbert, but an ankle injury suffered in Week 2 has put his status in question. Ian Rapoport offered an update on Herbert during Friday morning’s...
I'll let Andy figure out severely vs extremely.
i gotta say if the cleveland stats folks pushed the team to sell the farm for watson maybe nfl analytics arent there yet and being more in on them doesnt help
