OT: The OT Thread: At least it's not cold out (Warning in post 368)

[oldgoalie]

I feel as though I shouldn’t be surprised by this, but I scheduled myself to get a couple of boosters and discovered that TDap is over over $300 if you’re not insured the United States at a local pharmacy.

I gotta get the Shingles one (two,actually). Just need to decide which day or two afterwards that I want to feel like shit (especially after the second one).

 

[RabidBadger]

I gotta get the Shingles one (two,actually). Just need to decide which day or two afterwards that I want to feel like shit (especially after the second one).

Trust me, the effects from the vaccine will be 100x more pleasant than getting shingles. I had it on my face. The best way to describe it is someone pressed a hot iron to my face and left it there. Getting my kidney removed was way easier to deal with than shingles. Well, that's enough over sharing for now.

 

[Ehran]

I gotta get the Shingles one (two,actually). Just need to decide which day or two afterwards that I want to feel like shit (especially after the second one).

Got them, a couple of years ago, and didn't have any issues afterwards. At least, nothing that stood out beyond the normal shite.

 

[sabremike]

Got them, a couple of years ago, and didn't have any issues afterwards. At least, nothing that stood out beyond the normal shite.

You know who definitely needs a shingles vaccine? A roof!

 

[KiwiGriff]

Hello tennis elbow. I've never had you before.

Talked to the doctor today. He told me to rest it for three weeks. I said "so no Brazilian Jiu Jitsu tonight then?"

Luckily he reckons my office work is a bigger stressor and said it probably would not make much difference going to training. So I went anyway.

It's hard giving up time for recovery, and it's only gonna get shitter the older I get. I guess eventually I have to listen to the doctors.

 

[sabremike]

 

[Chainshot]

Hello tennis elbow. I've never had you before.

Talked to the doctor today. He told me to rest it for three weeks. I said "so no Brazilian Jiu Jitsu tonight then?"

Luckily he reckons my office work is a bigger stressor and said it probably would make much difference going to training. So I went anyway.

It's hard giving up time for recovery, and it's only gonna get shitter the older I get. I guess eventually I have to listen to the doctors.

Hello tennis elbow. I've never had you before.

Talked to the doctor today. He told me to rest it for three weeks. I said "so no Brazilian Jiu Jitsu tonight then?"

Luckily he reckons my office work is a bigger stressor and said it probably would make much difference going to training. So I went anyway.

It's hard giving up time for recovery, and it's only gonna get shitter the older I get. I guess eventually I have to listen to the doctors.

speaking of things with recovery, my father decided to flying tackle a display at a local grocery store where he and my mom live. Spiral fracture in his arm and dislocated shoulder. He’s going in for surgery hopefully on Thursday. It’s been real motivating for me to try and get things physically set to rights watching him struggle and knowing there’s no way I could afford to do the things that he’s done in retirement to his body. He had a hip replaced, he’s had a shoulder reconstructed, he’s got a replacement valve in his heart. I can’t even afford to get vaccinated…

 

[KiwiGriff]

speaking of things with recovery, my father decided to flying tackle a display at a local grocery store where he and my mom live. Spiral fracture in his arm and dislocated shoulder. He’s going in for surgery hopefully on Thursday. It’s been real motivating for me to try and get things physically set to rights watching him struggle and knowing there’s no way I could afford to do the things that he’s done in retirement to his body. He had a hip replaced, he’s had a shoulder reconstructed, he’s got a replacement valve in his heart. I can’t even afford to get vaccinated…

Medical care is an interesting topic.

My observation from the outside of the US, and happy to be corrected - having a privatized system ensures you get highly paid medical professionals (meaning they are hopefully good at what they do). You also get money into medical research for new drugs and state of the art diagnostic equipment ... but in the end it's subsidizing benefits that only the roch can afford to make use of?

Question: if you go into a hospital for something? How long would you expect to wait to be seen?

 

[Beerz]

Medical care is an interesting topic.

My observation from the outside of the US, and happy to be corrected - having a privatized system ensures you get highly paid medical professionals (meaning they are hopefully good at what they do). You also get money into medical research for new drugs and state of the art diagnostic equipment ... but in the end it's subsidizing benefits that only the roch can afford to make use of?

Question: if you go into a hospital for something? How long would you expect to wait to be seen?

Most people get their insurance through their place of employment.

You talking like an emergency room visit? .. I guess it depends how serious the issue is... if it is not too serious you can wait a couple hours or more to get in. Maybe more in big cities.

 

[Mike McDermott]

Medical care is an interesting topic.

My observation from the outside of the US, and happy to be corrected - having a privatized system ensures you get highly paid medical professionals (meaning they are hopefully good at what they do). You also get money into medical research for new drugs and state of the art diagnostic equipment ... but in the end it's subsidizing benefits that only the roch can afford to make use of?

Question: if you go into a hospital for something? How long would you expect to wait to be seen?

The American healthcare system is severely broken. I won’t go on too much of a tangent here but you pay a lot to have insurance, pay more when you need to use it and insurance often declines things that doctors says patients need. It is all about profit and the little guy gets ****ed. There are certainly good doctors who do they best they can but the bureaucracy of it all is a mess.

Most people get their insurance through their place of employment.

You talking like an emergency room visit? .. I guess it depends how serious the issue is... if it is not too serious you can wait a couple hours or more to get in. Maybe more in big cities.

Seriousness definitely comes into play but I’ve known some people lately that waited 8-12 hours. With as mentioned above it being all about profit, Emergency Rooms are often under staffed and overworked.

 

[Chainshot]

Most people get their insurance through their place of employment.

You talking like an emergency room visit? .. I guess it depends how serious the issue is... if it is not too serious you can wait a couple hours or more to get in. Maybe more in big cities.

54% get private health insurance from employers. Anyone else is covered through other means (32-ish percent) or doesn’t have any at all (8ish percent).

It would cost about the same amount for me to get those vaccines in Costa Rica, and that includes renewing my passport, getting a round-trip flight, and booking for a couple of days.

 

[Beerz]

The American healthcare system is severely broken. I won’t go on too much of a tangent here but you pay a lot to have insurance, pay more when you need to use it and insurance often declines things that doctors says patients need. It is all about profit and the little guy gets ****ed. There are certainly good doctors who do they best they can but the bureaucracy of it all is a mess.

Seriousness definitely comes into play but I’ve known some people lately that waited 8-12 hours. With as mentioned above it being all about profit, Emergency Rooms are often under staffed and overworked.

For sure.

 

[KiwiGriff]

The American healthcare system is severely broken. I won’t go on too much of a tangent here but you pay a lot to have insurance, pay more when you need to use it and insurance often declines things that doctors says patients need. It is all about profit and the little guy gets ****ed. There are certainly good doctors who do they best they can but the bureaucracy of it all is a mess.

Seriousness definitely comes into play but I’ve known some people lately that waited 8-12 hours. With as mentioned above it being all about profit, Emergency Rooms are often under staffed and overworked.

I was just wondering what the comparison is like in a user-pays system. I took my son into the hospital for a concussion last week. It was about 6-7 hours beginning to end ... which is probably about average here, or maybe even a little on the faster side. That's public healthcare. I also get private Healthcare through work but that only covers serious treatment like cancer/surgery.

Accidents here are covered by public Healthcare. Urgent you'll be straight into the hospital and dealt with. Non-urgent you might sit there for half a day. No cost though.

 

[Chainshot]

I was just wondering what the comparison is like in a user-pays system. I took my son into the hospital for a concussion last week. It was about 6-7 hours beginning to end ... which is probably about average here, or maybe even a little on the faster side. That's public healthcare. I also get private Healthcare through work but that only covers serious treatment like cancer/surgery.

Accidents here are covered by public Healthcare. Urgent you'll be straight into the hospital and dealt with. Non-urgent you might sit there for half a day. No cost though.

I've been covered by a private company considered good, briefly by the university with a state plan, briefly by the state for a couple of months after I graduated, and then nothing.

I have seen no difference in speed of care. Cost? Massive differences. I paid far, far less as an uninsured tourist for things in CR that were on par as US treatment. I also can't see my GP without a direct complaint - no maintenance annuals. So that'll probably kill me when I finally do get back on a carrier because it will be a late find.

The fascinating stuff is that the companies are denying services which is essentially practicing without without a license. But it's a massive industry with a huge fund raising and lobbying presence in the US, which means things don't get changed for the better.

 

[Gras]

The malpractice insurance and litigious nature of America also adds up.