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Pre-Game Talk: The Only Series We’ve Ever Known: Oilers @ Kings
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Hes barely putting up points still. Guy does a lot that leads to nothing. He is good at looking busy.
He's got 5 goals in his last 9 games. No apples, but I know I've seen him have a couple nice setups where we didn't finish.
Still falls on his ass every other shift, but sometimes he is able to flail and keep possession for us when it happens now. That's an improvement from earlier in the season
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5 goals in his last 10 games. I feel like he’s heating up at the perfect time.
I truly wonder how much of this injury run is legit (all players truly can't play) and how much of it is strategic (could play, but they just won't). The Ekholm injury is definitely legit, but McDavid? Draistail? Hyman? I think they could have all been playing this whole time probably, but a decision was made to not. Wonder how much McDavid and Drai ending each playoff year burned out/injured played into a different approach this year down the stretch.
My gut tells me we come out in Game 1 absolutely flying because all the key players had a month off. Even in the two games McDavid came back for, he looked like a completely different player than anything we had seen here since December at the latest. With all the shit the Kings are talking, I would love nothing more than to come out for Game 1 and skin them alive.
The fact that all of these injuries were ambiguous resulting in multi-week absences raises eyebrows. Pretty much all of these are the players randomly stopping then going off ice. These don't lead to multi week injuries normally. At least not every time.
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"Great"?
The player has 15G all season while being glued to Draisaitl nearly all season. 2 of his goals are ENG.
To be fair, he doesn't like the notion, but let's be honest, they've been load managing pretty much the whole year without saying they've been load managing. LA is going to look like they're drinking from a firehose in game 1 because the Oilers have thoroughly convinced everyone that half their team is on LTIR. Save for Ekholm (ouch) and Frederic, the team is probably going to be firing on all cylinders.
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I know you hate the guy. And I’m not the biggest fan. But he has been pretty effective of late. He’s better than yamo and can actually shoot (yamo had no shot)
He does fall down a lot. I will give you that. But the dude can dig. And he’s got a pretty decent wrister and one timer
I still have time for him on the team.
Playoff arvi was always the best arvi. Question will be is if that is what we will get?
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Drivesaitl
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He's not particularly good in playoffs either. He's a scrub of a player constantly getting knocked off pucks when not throwing pucks away. About a dozen posters in GDT just last night said he had a real bad game.
Better than Yama is real low bar.
I'm not thrilled with several players in this lineup that seemingly just want to show up late in season as spots become less available. Arvid became a bit better the moment he suspected he could be replaced in lineup.
Arvid is inconsistent shooter. Occasionally he finds his range and then next thing he's shooting wide or flubbing shots again. His shot has been on for a couple weeks, but it never lasts like that. He's a career low % shooter. Worse if factoring in all his misses.
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I guess the “he’s better than yamo” is enough for me at the moment.
Would be real nice to have Holloway right now. lol FFs
It is troubling how long it took arvi to get going. I’m just hoping he continues to build.
We certainly need it
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Not saying he’s had a great season because he hasn’t but he’s played his best hockey of the year the last 10 games.
The most frustrating thing about the last few months with the Oilers is a majority of the GA's are on laughably preventable plays. A ton of frankly stupid plays up ice that create rushes that we get scored on. Our in zone defensive game is still really strong, just bad, terrible defending the rush.
This team is cavalier and stupid with the puck, but they do know when they need to rein that in and they tend to do that against the Kings. The Kings have a pop gun offence. Don't give them rush chances and they aren't going to score goals. Play conservative and we'll win.
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I think we should put McDrai together from the start of the playoffs and let them dominate as they always have. Let them carry the squad.
Drivesaitl
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Big whoop. Like I said I'm not impressed with the many forwards on this club that did barely anything the majority of the season thus letting the stars on the club do all the production and work.
I think we really settle and accept less here in our expectations of support forwards, even topsix forwards.
All I heard in GDT last night was F-off Foegele, people talking as if he did nothing here, is a creampuff etc. Well He has as many goals almost as Skinner and Arvid put together and neither of the latter are physical in the slightest, either.
A player like Arvid scores once in awhile, is easy to play against, and will lose pucks, make misplays, pass puck anywhere etc. Arvid is a high event player meaning when he's not cashing a lot or producing much at all he's a huge liability. At contract cost he's ridiculous. We could have had Holloway AND Foegele for around the price.
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Agreed. Add in that our goalies let in one softy a night it seems, and it further shows how strong we are defensively in zone.
I'm confident in their ability to overcome the poor team play, as you said. The goaltending I really hope neither guy has much of a leash, I think it could help if they were fighting for the crease a bit and limit those poor GA.
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Foegele in his playoff career in Edmonton had 5 goals 7 assist and was -14 in 47 games. That’s why he’s no longer on the team. The regular season doesn’t mean anything. Same reason I’m not judging any of these support players until the post season. The success or failure of the season is defined by what happens in these next couple of months not what happened between October and now.
Drivesaitl
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How much of this was due to usage, shit goaltending, and who he's playing with and against?
Oilers topload like crazy and so the players not in topsix have a harder time. The team in recent playoffs has been predicated on special teams. We've ruled PP and pk in playoffs. EV, Overall the whole club hasn't been excellent EV and frankly haven't had to be.
I'm not even a fan of Foegele but would have him over useless runt like Arvid anytime.
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Foegele and McLeod were both getting time with Draisaitl and didn't get a point until round 3.
Bingo.
In 2022 Foegele got scratched for quite a bit of the playoffs because he didn't have the ability to hold the puck on his stick for longer than about a second without losing it or passing it to the other team. He had some games off in 2023 if memory serves as well. He has terrible hands at the best of times, and when you lose the half second you need to get a handle on it before making a play it's tough to overcome.
Each year the playoffs serve as a good reminder that players that are good/contributors at a normal regular season pace quickly become liabilities when the pace goes up a level. Foegele and Desharnais were poster boys for that here.
And McLeod required a game off to get him to work hard enough to achieve that first point.
As you infer, neither was short of ice time here.
Drivesaitl
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They were getting sporadic and very little time with him. Arvid is stapled with Drai. Perhaps a difference. McLeod and Foegele also had more pts than Arvid last season and this season.
Foegele scored in the first game of the playoffs last year and had an assist in game 2. After that I stopped checking as you'd already been misinformed.
At least be somewhat accurate.
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Almost all of the games Arvidsson has played well in lately have been when he was un-stapled to Drai.
Drivesaitl
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So maybe the decoupling can be permanent. I wouldn't complain.
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