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The upper decks in some of the newer stadiums seem like they are a mile from the field. The Raiders may be the only that seemed somewhat normal. The actual views of the field may not reflect how it seems on TV but they seem high and/or far away from the field.

I know the levels on each sideline were a little different but the sideline in that image seems to be close to the field. They said it was supposed to feel like you are on top of the field and it should help keep the crowd noise loud with fewer people inside the stadium. I am looking forward to attending a game after I win the lottery, lol.
 
I’d like to see a poll on DT vs CB with our first pick. I know it depends on who’s available, but I’m still curious to see what the majority of the fanbase prioritizes.

ESPN has CB Hairston ranked 27th and A Thomas 29th. DT Grant at 35 and Alexander at 48.

I know some people are not as high on Grant as me, but if he and both the CB’s I mentioned are available at 30, I’m running to the podium for Grant.

Despite being on the Grant train…. The more I watch film on Harmon, the more I like. He’s another guy I hear people complain about. Nolan’s the other guy that I’m loving the more I watch.

Could Beane target Nolan and double dip with a real 1-tech like Farmer? Or Tyleik Williams or Deon Walker a bit later?

There are so many options this draft. I’ve been doing mocks since the 90’s. This is one of the more polarizing ones. Especially given the talent and depth at the positions of need.
 
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The upper decks in some of the newer stadiums seem like they are a mile from the field. The Raiders may be the only that seemed somewhat normal. The actual views of the field may not reflect how it seems on TV but they seem high and/or far away from the field.

I know the levels on each sideline were a little different but the sideline in that image seems to be close to the field. They said it was supposed to feel like you are on top of the field and it should help keep the crowd noise loud with fewer people inside the stadium. I am looking forward to attending a game after I win the lottery, lol.
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It actually looks to me that the upper decks will feel more on top of everything to me. Compared to Highmark, the stadium looks to be more like the Aud with its seating with a sharper incline positioning at the higher levels. I think once the seating is installed it will be more clear to picture.

Looking at the more recent picture of the two stadiums, I think you could see the differences of the degree in the incline of the seating will be. Highmark is a lot more open than what this stadium appears to be.
 
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I’d like to see a poll on DT vs CB with our first pick. I know it depends on who’s available, but I’m still curious to see what the majority of the fanbase prioritizes.

ESPN has CB Hairston ranked 27th and A Thomas 29th. DT Grant at 35 and Alexander at 48.

I know some people are not as high on Grant as me, but if he and both the CB’s I mentioned are available at 30, I’m running to the podium for Grant.

Despite being on the Grant train…. The more I watch film on Harmon, the more I like. He’s another guy I hear people complain about. Nolan’s the other guy that I’m loving the more I watch.

Could Beane target Nolan and double dip with a real 1-tech like Farmer? Or Tyleik Williams or Deon Walker a bit later?

There are so many options this draft. I’ve been doing mocks since the 90’s. This is one of the more polarizing ones. Especially given the talent and depth at the positions of need.
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I believe the smart move, given the insane depth of talent at DT (Brugler has 11 DTs in the top 91, 22 in the top 200), the wise move is to lock up the best tier 2 CB and address DT later. I’d prefer it with a trade down, but it takes two to tango and the general consensus is that there isn’t much gap between the 20th best prospect and the 70th. So you probably have to hope for an unexpected run on QBs, and a team like Cleveland to get antsy to get back into the 1st. Otherwise, stay out and grab a CB. Amos, Hairston, Thomas, or Revel or Morrison (if you feel good about medicals).
My dream is trade down to about 40, pick up a 3rd (may have to add a 5th), and then go:
1. Morrison (my fave but medicals are huge)
2. Collins (not a typical Bills NT, but he’s so imposing and strong)
2. Jaylin Noel or Jaylon Royals (Speed on the outside)
3. Omar Norman-Lott (double dip at DT to get both a stud anchor/run defender and a stud 3-tech pass rusher).
I’d target Duloc or Paul for LB depth add S depth Edge depth, and another CB with the later picks.
 
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As we approach the draft, things what my modeling has shown me:

- Trade back from 30 and add a 3rd. Buffalo can get similar talent at pick 40 as pick 30.

- Trade up from 56 to potentially as far as pick 41. The 35 to 45 range has players the Bills could double dip in.

- Trade down for 62 and add picks. There are players who will be available at 75 with similar grades who will be better roster fits.

- Trade up from the 4th with the accumulated picks and try to make as many picks in the :rd round as possible.

Edit: here’s what that type of draft might look like:
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I believe the smart move, given the insane depth of talent at DT (Brugler has 11 DTs in the top 91, 22 in the top 200), the wise move is to lock up the best tier 2 CB and address DT later. I’d prefer it with a trade down, but it takes two to tango and the general consensus is that there isn’t much gap between the 20th best prospect and the 70th. So you probably have to hope for an unexpected run on QBs, and a team like Cleveland to get antsy to get back into the 1st. Otherwise, stay out and grab a CB. Amos, Hairston, Thomas, or Revel or Morrison (if you feel good about medicals).
My dream is trade down to about 40, pick up a 3rd (may have to add a 5th), and then go:
1. Morrison (my fave but medicals are huge)
2. Collins (not a typical Bills NT, but he’s so imposing and strong)
2. Jaylin Noel or Jaylon Royals (Speed on the outside)
3. Omar Norman-Lott (double dip at DT to get both a stud anchor/run defender and a stud 3-tech pass rusher).
I’d target Duloc or Paul for LB depth add S depth Edge depth, and another CB with the later picks.
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I hate when draft experts like Brugler lump all DTs into one bucket.

The Bills have a specific need at 1TDT with the 3TDT depth chart currently looking like Oliver-Ogunjobi*#- Carter and the 1TDT depth chart as Jones#-Logue-Deen#. [* is the 6 game suspension & # is in last year of their current deal].

It is like people that treat boundary WRs the same as slot only guys. Or, boundary CBs the same as nickel CBs. Or MLB the same as SLB or WLB.

I think boundary CB and 1TDT are the biggest needs on the roster today given what they have with respect to playing a large percentage of reps in 2025 and their level of need for 2026.

The challenge is how quickly will CBs and 1TDTs come off the board both before 30 and then before the late 2nd round.

And there is a next level need at DE given that Bosa and Epenesa are entering the last year of their deals and the Hoecht suspension.
 
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Der Jaeger said:
As we approach the draft, things what my modeling has shown me:

- Trade back from 30 and add a 3rd. Buffalo can get similar talent at pick 40 as pick 30.

- Trade up from 56 to potentially as far as pick 41. The 35 to 45 range has players the Bills could double dip in.

- Trade down for 62 and add picks. There are players who will be available at 75 with similar grades who will be better roster fits.

- Trade up from the 4th with the accumulated picks and try to make as many picks in the :rd round as possible.
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You might enjoy Bruce's mock with Pat Moran. And it is cool because Bruce talks through his logic with all the trades he makes and how he targets specific positions at certain spots.
 
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Der Jaeger said:
As we approach the draft, things what my modeling has shown me:

- Trade back from 30 and add a 3rd. Buffalo can get similar talent at pick 40 as pick 30.

- Trade up from 56 to potentially as far as pick 41. The 35 to 45 range has players the Bills could double dip in.

- Trade down for 62 and add picks. There are players who will be available at 75 with similar grades who will be better roster fits.

- Trade up from the 4th with the accumulated picks and try to make as many picks in the :rd round as possible.
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Two trades: to TEN 30+177 for 35+103, to DAL 56+62 for 47+76+204 (They had traded down 44 to 47 previously)
 
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truthbluth said:
I believe the smart move, given the insane depth of talent at DT (Brugler has 11 DTs in the top 91, 22 in the top 200), the wise move is to lock up the best tier 2 CB and address DT later. I’d prefer it with a trade down, but it takes two to tango and the general consensus is that there isn’t much gap between the 20th best prospect and the 70th. So you probably have to hope for an unexpected run on QBs, and a team like Cleveland to get antsy to get back into the 1st. Otherwise, stay out and grab a CB. Amos, Hairston, Thomas, or Revel or Morrison (if you feel good about medicals).
My dream is trade down to about 40, pick up a 3rd (may have to add a 5th), and then go:
1. Morrison (my fave but medicals are huge)
2. Collins (not a typical Bills NT, but he’s so imposing and strong)
2. Jaylin Noel or Jaylon Royals (Speed on the outside)
3. Omar Norman-Lott (double dip at DT to get both a stud anchor/run defender and a stud 3-tech pass rusher).
I’d target Duloc or Paul for LB depth add S depth Edge depth, and another CB with the later picks.
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I know you're big on Nolen, who likely won't be available at 30. Marino's podcast was interesting. We love Oliver. He's 28. 3 years left on his contract. Are we going to re-sign him at 30/31? There are 1-tech options later in the draft. Guy's like Farmer and Phillips. Maybe a double-dip would make sense for the right 1-tech and 3 tech DT. Trade back, recoup a 3rd, draft a Norman-Lott then target one of those behemoths.

The drop off at CB is greater than DT. But, the need for a great 2CB isn't that dire if our front 4 can get pressure. I keep going back and fourth between the two positions. If CB and DT are our first two picks, I'll be happy.
 
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Jim Bob said:
I hate when draft experts like Brugler lump all DTs into one bucket.

The Bills have a specific need at 1TDT with the 3TDT depth chart currently looking like Oliver-Ogunjobi*#- Carter and the 1TDT depth chart as Jones#-Logue-Deen#. [* is the 6 game suspension & # is in last year of their current deal].

It is like people that treat boundary WRs the same as slot only guys. Or, boundary CBs the same as nickel CBs. Or MLB the same as SLB or WLB.

I think boundary CB and 1TDT are the biggest needs on the roster today given what they have with respect to playing a large percentage of reps in 2025 and their level of need for 2026.

The challenge is how quickly will CBs and 1TDTs come off the board both before 30 and then before the late 2nd round.

And there is a next level need at DE given that Bosa and Epenesa are entering the last year of their deals and the Hoecht suspension.
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I don’t understand. Is your contention that there aren’t 1Ts to be had later in the draft? Because generally speaking, that’s where those guys go.
 
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truthbluth said:
I don’t understand. Is your contention that there aren’t 1Ts to be had later in the draft? Because generally speaking, that’s where those guys go.
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This overstates how many 1TDTs are in these ranges:

(Brugler has 11 DTs in the top 91, 22 in the top 200)

For instance, Brugler has 6 DTs with 1st, 1st-2nd, or 2nd round grades. And with the way the Bills play it's likely a 3/3 split between 1T & 3T.

And I think that there are a fair number of DTs in this draft that fans think could play 1T more than the Bills might see things the same way.

There will be guys like Stackhouse available on day 3. But, they will be there for a reason. If the Bills want penetration style 1TDTs, like they have in the past, they tend not to last that long.

If the Bills are willing to go with more of a 2 down run stuffer, I think they could have some options later in the draft.
 
Jim Bob said:
This overstates how many 1TDTs are in these ranges:

(Brugler has 11 DTs in the top 91, 22 in the top 200)

For instance, Brugler has 6 DTs with 1st, 1st-2nd, or 2nd round grades. And with the way the Bills play it's likely a 3/3 split between 1T & 3T.

And I think that there are a fair number of DTs in this draft that fans think could play 1T more than the Bills might see things the same way.

There will be guys like Stackhouse available on day 3. But, they will be there for a reason. If the Bills want penetration style 1TDTs, like they have in the past, they tend not to last that long.

If the Bills are willing to go with more of a 2 down run stuffer, I think they could have some options later in the draft.
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Ok, but who? Grant is likely the only player you are talking about. So it’s between Grant at 30 (if he’s even available) and then likely passing on CB2 until the 4th round, or passing on Grant and taking one of Williams, Collins, Caldwell in the 2nd, or waiting until later. How many boundary CBs that fit in the Bills zone heavy scheme does Brugler have with a 1st or 2nd round grade? Both scenarios involve hoping like hell somebody falls in the 2nd.

Could definitely see the Bills standing pat at 30, but trading up from 56.
 
www.espn.com

Three-round NFL mock draft: Kiper and Yates pick landing spots for 102 top prospects, six QBs

Two trades? Six quarterbacks? A bunch of tough calls? Mel and Field alternate making projections for 102 picks across Days 1 and 2 of the draft.
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30.​

Kiper's pick: Trey Amos, CB, Ole Miss

This is the biggest weakness on the Bills' roster; they need another starter at cornerback. Opponents moved the ball through the air too easily last season, as Buffalo allowed 68.5% of passes to be completed (fifth worst in the NFL). Amos -- who had three picks and 15 pass breakups last season -- could slide into free agent Rasul Douglas' spot.

56.​

Kiper's pick: Savion Williams, WR, TCU

I'm taking all the receivers, Field. This is three in a row for me. Buffalo, of course, could use another one to join Khalil Shakir and Keon Coleman.

62.​

Kiper's pick: Oluwafemi Oladejo, Edge, UCLA

The Bills replaced Von Miller with Joey Bosa, but it's a one-year deal. Plus, they would still like more youth in the edge rush group. Oladejo has good burst and finished with 29 pressures in 2024.
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Notables/guys we've discussed on the board at 30: Ezeiraku, Grant, Revel, Watts
Notables/guys we've discussed on the board at 56/62: Mukuba, Tyliek, Collins, Farmer

I despise the pick of Williams at 56. Like Amos at 30 and like Oladejo at 62 though.
 
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Ok, but who? Grant is likely the only player you are talking about. So it’s between Grant at 30 (if he’s even available) and then likely passing on CB2 until the 4th round, or passing on Grant and taking one of Williams, Collins, Caldwell in the 2nd, or waiting until later. How many boundary CBs that fit in the Bills zone heavy scheme does Brugler have with a 1st or 2nd round grade? Both scenarios involve hoping like hell somebody falls in the 2nd.

Could definitely see the Bills standing pat at 30, but trading up from 56.
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Harmon and Grant are the two guys that will get the most talk, but the Bills have looked at Williams, Farmer, and some others. Williams is more of the 2 down run stuffing 1T. But, Harmon is 2nd amongst all DTs in pass rush win rate per PFF and he is a guy that gets a lot of comparisons to DaQuan Jones when it comes to build and play style.

Every team in the NFL plays mostly zone defense. I think the most man heavy team last season still played zone around 2/3 of the time. So, every CB prospect that wants to be successful in the NFL will need zone scheme skills.

The million dollar question with all three of the position groups that people will focus on (CB, DT, and DE) will have runs and Beane will need to know if he can wait or if he needs to move up.

I won't be shocked if Beane moves back from 30 and then up from 56 and/or 109.
 
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Zman5778 said:
www.espn.com

Three-round NFL mock draft: Kiper and Yates pick landing spots for 102 top prospects, six QBs

Two trades? Six quarterbacks? A bunch of tough calls? Mel and Field alternate making projections for 102 picks across Days 1 and 2 of the draft.
www.espn.com www.espn.com


Notables/guys we've discussed on the board at 30: Ezeiraku, Grant, Revel, Watts
Notables/guys we've discussed on the board at 56/62: Mukuba, Tyliek, Collins, Farmer

I despise the pick of Williams at 56. Like Amos at 30 and like Oladejo at 62 though.
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He has the Bills taking the wrong Williams at 56.
 
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I like Tyleik Williams as a 1DT. He reminds me of a young Pat Williams. I think he's got more to offer than just a run stuffer, and can grow into it. But you can't teach big men to move like he does.
 
Zman5778 said:
www.espn.com

Three-round NFL mock draft: Kiper and Yates pick landing spots for 102 top prospects, six QBs

Two trades? Six quarterbacks? A bunch of tough calls? Mel and Field alternate making projections for 102 picks across Days 1 and 2 of the draft.
www.espn.com www.espn.com


Notables/guys we've discussed on the board at 30: Ezeiraku, Grant, Revel, Watts
Notables/guys we've discussed on the board at 56/62: Mukuba, Tyliek, Collins, Farmer

I despise the pick of Williams at 56. Like Amos at 30 and like Oladejo at 62 though.
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They have Washington trading down with Cleveland jumping up for Jaxson Dart giving 33 and 67 up for 29 and 128. This is something the Bills should be in on. I don't know why Cleveland jumps to Washington unless they think someone else (Giants?) is coming up for the QB, but 33 and 67 for 30 and 109 would work pretty darn well for the Bills plans on a draft falling this way. Similarly if NYG is the team trying to get ahead of the Browns they can offer 34 and 99 for 30 and 177, which actually gets the Bills to 5 top-110 picks which they can use to address their 4 main needs, and still spend one on a BPA sticking out.

(Or, trade with someone coming up ahead of KC for Conerly)

Their second round as noted is suspect... Savion Williams at #56 (Tyleik Williams and Alfred Collins on the board) and Oladejo at #62 only to see Landon Jackson go to KC at #63?
 
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