With all the current angst over climate change maybe it's time for another remake which emphasizes the ecological threat. These may not have been the movie's intentions, my guess is the horror was meant to be something more basic.
Different, certainly. But far superior? I prefer the original's economy of means and Siegel's adroit direction. That being said the Kaufman version is definitely a treat and well worth seeing. I wonder how Kaufman got to it before Cronenberg, though, I guess David wouldn't have had that much clout yet.This leads me to believe you haven't seen the (far superior) 1978 version, which pretty much goes that way.
Here's the intro - (acid rain was the big frenzy of the time).
Different, certainly. But far superior? I prefer the original's economy of means and Siegel's adroit direction. That being said the Kaufman version is definitely a treat and well worth seeing. I wonder how Kaufman got to it before Cronenberg, though, I guess David wouldn't have had that much clout yet.
Actually I have seen the 70s version...but not since the 70s! (Completely forgot Leonard Nimoy was in it.)
I wasn't looking out for subtexts at the time, was probably hoping more for a glimpse of bare breasts.
I was wondering why you were so high on the 70s remake, but thought that would be a discussion for another film in another week. But since we're here...
As for the Kaufman film... I feel it's a masterpiece of horror sci-fi (top 3 with Alien and The Thing, wouldn't know how to rank them)
That would have been just right for Cronenberg's tropes, but I don't think he would have done better than Kaufman (not at the time - and I'm a big Cronenberg fan).
Yes, bare breasts, of course. For that, you'll want to see the lesser Ferrara remake, where you get a glimpse of Gabrielle Anwar's very pleasant body. Not kidding.
(edit: this was not meant as a diss on Brooke Adams!)
As for the Kaufman film... I feel it's a masterpiece of horror sci-fi (top 3 with Alien and The Thing, wouldn't know how to rank them), it's one of the most efficient films in creating that feeling of what Freud called the unheimlich - a distortion of the familiar that causes your skin to (literally) crawl. It appears in ponctual fashion in some of David Lynch's works (my favorite example is the Bob-behind-the-bed scene from the European trailer of Twin Peaks, not the lesser version we got in NA). In Kaufman's film, it's intermittent (which is pretty rare), and manages to peak at the amazing ending (probably my favorite horror film ending). It's also pretty good in creating feelings of abjection (an uneasiness created by a sudden reminder of your own materiality, mainly as meat), especially when Sutherland bashes his clones, or when Brooke Adams' dissolve. These are things the best horror films work their ass off to only graze and that are here effortless and so very efficient.
Also, the bleakness of this film... The Mist isn't a masterpiece, but you have to admire it at least for its bleakness. It's almost as bad here (or it's even worse, as it is also visually both bleak and beautifully shot). As for the subtexts, all of the Snatchers adaptations have an easy pass on this - it's really easy to project the fears of the time into them, and the fight between individuality and conformity. Kaufman's film proposes IMO a lot more depth than the three others, if only through its characters' obession with the Self (you have to love Nimoy's psychobull**** doctor).
I'm the guy who almost never rates a remake higher than the original, even if it is an improvement. I expect it to be better--easier to reach higher when standing on someone else's shoulders. I always give props to those who did it first.
The term "uncanny" gets tossed around and I'm not even sure if I understand the meaning correctly, but your comments about the unheimlich made me think of a particular scene in Invasion of the Body Snatchers and thankfully it's on Youtube. Becky's cousin tells Miles how her Uncle Ira isn't Uncle Ira anymore...that's uncanny as it is. We occasionally see old Ira in the background cutting the grass, going about his business as usual. It's mostly expositional dialogue that lays out the situation, tying together in one case all the oddities that Miles has been noticing around Santa Mira. But it's the shot near the end (around 3:10) that really got under my skin. As Miles and Becky prepare to leave we cut to a long shot and suddenly Ira is in your face, walking right across the shot so close that he's not even in focus. The sound of the lawnmower buzzes in your ear like a bee that's too close for comfort. It's just a brief second or two but disturbing...seemed like an "unheimlich manoeuvre" to me.
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Tetro (1998) Directed by Francis Ford Coppola
Unless there is some autobiographical connection, I have trouble understanding why Francis Ford Coppola was interested in this project. Tetro, with so much of its action coming in confined spaces, struck me as play-like, and I could see it as a theatre piece real easy. The story--estranged brothers come to grips with their feelings about each other and a lot of other things, too, with a twist at the end--seemed nothing particularly special, though perhaps it could have if I had managed to get over my Vincent Gallo hangup which I didn't. For me Gallo has a sort of negative charisma in that although he has the ability to suck all the oxygen out of a room, which can be fun to watch, in the process he almost always creates a persona that I find repellent in the extreme. In short, he makes my skin crawl. As is true with all Coppola movies, both father and daughter, the cinematography is enough to keep me watching even when I have largely tuned out of the melodrama taking place before me. And FFC is one of those directors who are always interesting to watch work even when the material seems spotty as it does here.
It is always a little uncomfortable disagreeing with someone whose opinion I respect and with whom I am usually in near complete agreement. Amerika mentioned that Tetro is one of his favourite films, and now I am very curious to find out why he values Tetro so highly. I guess this is what makes horse races fun to bet on--one horse can generate no end of different opinions.
I'll bet I did. Apologies.I think you might be confusing Tetro for Buffalo'66, a Gallo effort that is certainly one of my favorite films and which you loathed. Tetro is not.![]()
Having happily found a source to watch the film is pristine quality, my next pick is Robert Bresson's Au hasard Balthazar.
Amazing film. The remake was also pretty damn good.The Thing (1982) dir. John Carpenter
A sled dog appears at an American antarctic research station, it's followed by a Norwegian helicopter trying to kill it. When the helicopter lands the frantic pilot tries to shoot the dog, yelling that is is no dog, it's a "Thing" in Norwegian, but he gets killed by the confused Americans before he manages to kill the dog. The Americans put the dog in the pound and sends a team to the Norwegian camp to investigate what has happened. They find no one at the Norwegian camp, but nearby the find an alien spaceship buried in the ice, which the Norwegians have dug free. At the base they soon find out that the dog isn't really a dog, but an alien shape shifting monster. Paranoia spreads. Who's a monster wearing the skin of their now dead comrade, and who's still alive? It becomes a battle among themselves as much as it becomes a battle against the monster.
The Thing is perhaps my all time favourite horror film. I adore the setting. Overwintering in a remote antarctic base with little or no contact with the outside world is almost a downright scary thought for me on it's own. It's about as isolated as you can be on Mother Earth. Going outside isn't an option either, because nature itself is at its most hostile. It's comparable to the spaceship in Alien in terms of being isolated an unable to escape. But The Thing just does it more for me. Perhaps because the setting is more "real". I also like that for the most part, the characters are making sound decisions. Not all decisions are equally good. But with the effects of uncertainty and paranoia in mind they are mostly behaving somewhat rationally. There's no really dumb decisions which brings the characters in a bad situation. Like in Alien where just about every protocol of the ship is broken in order to get the alien onto the ship, and then Sigourney Weaver has to fix the mess the men have made. I haven't watched Alien in a decade, but when I did I still remember being so annoyed during the first half of the film, because it felt like the characters were careless dumb mistake, after careless dumb mistake. The characters of the The Thing don't really do that, and I really like that, because it really took me out of Alien. They are perhaps a bit nonchalant about the dog after they killed the Norwegian, but they didn't understand him, and for any rational person he looked to be mad. There's however one thing I'm not really sure I get. At the end they realise they need to kill themselves to stop the thing from spreading all over the globe. However the thing can survive in a frozen state, but will die to fire. So they pretty much bomb and burn the whole station before the freeze to death. But why would the thing be hiding in the station if it's just looking to go into hibernation? Of course there's a bigger chance of being found in the station than in the middle of the antarctic, it took several thousand years the first time. But it's also the only place the humans can harm it. Maybe I'm doing myself a disservice by over thinking this., but it just struck me during the end of the film.
John Carpenter and Kurt Russell are a great match. One of the greatest B-movie directors of all time and a man made to play B-movie lead roles. This is perhaps their best collaboration. I really like Kurt Russell as MacReady here. He's the lead role, but whether he's the hero is arguable. He's pretty much only looking out for his own life, and he's quite aggressive about it. The extent to which he looks after his crew mates is because he knows the more humans alive the better. But he's not about to take a bullet for anyone. But his approach is probably the best suited for your individual survival in a situation like this.
It's interesting that this movie comes up so shortly after Invasion of The Body Snatchers. Because when broken down they are quite similar. Both movies are about living in a situation where people around you may or may not be themselves, or a perfect copy with all their memories and everything. And it's impossible to tell who's who. Now it's up to you to try and stop the spread of this to the rest of the world. If you go beyond that they are very different. But if you have to break them down thematically, they will end up looking quite similar.