Player Discussion The Official Brock Boeser Risk Management Thread

[theguardianII]

Perfect fits for Boeser are both the Rangers and the Islanders.
He had really good seasons with Horvat and Miller.
What do they have to offer though?
Can't expect too much unless there are others included.

 

[shottasasa]

Perfect fits for Boeser are both the Rangers and the Islanders.
He had really good seasons with Horvat and Miller.
What do they have to offer though?
Can't expect too much unless there are others included.

I don’t think that’s going to be all that relevant. Need would be far more important and there are a few playoff teams that could use a top line RH goal scoring winger with a solid 2way profile and good recent playoff performances. I would think the standard pick, young roster player and prospect should be expected.

 

[Bobby9]

Target the jets.

They’re in the win now window and have pics and prospects

 

[Green Blank Stare]

They have to trade him before the deadline. It would be asinine to keep Boeser for a "playoff push" that at best, would result in getting annihilated by Winnipeg in the first round.

 

[F A N]

They have to trade him before the deadline. It would be asinine to keep Boeser for a "playoff push" that at best, would result in getting annihilated by Winnipeg in the first round.

No team gets annihilated by the Jets in the first round.

 

[F A N]

I just know that any reasonable extension for BB6 will have me anxious about the eventual drop off. It would be tough having a slow skating non-play-driving winger on the decline locked in at $7-8m for (what is likely to be) very long term. Cup contenders usually don't have too many bad contracts, even one of those can be a big/costly problem. Like most UFA contracts, all we can hope is that we get at least 3-4 "good" seasons out of him. I would really hate to have buyers remorse immediately (kind of like the Eriksson/Stamkos/Lucic type deals).

I think a team can still be competitive with strong centers, defense and goaltending, winger is the lowest on my priority list. Even if we can't replace Boeser completely, I still rather let him walk than to commit something like $8m x 8, feels like the same bullet we dodged with Lindholm (who also only really had 1 offensively great season in his career, much like Brock).

Outside of injuries and having to deal with his father's declining health and eventual passing, Boeser has scored at a 30+ pace. He put things together last season and scored 40. The other underrated part is that Boeser is a decent passer. So a solid season out of Boeser would be 30+ goals 60+ points. There has been like 0 seasons where Boeser wouldn't have had 50 points if he played 82 games. Take this season, Boeser has the same number of points as Debrusk.

I've said this before, I think the whole play driving aspect of a player can be overrated. It needs to be put into context. Garland is a play driver who can drive offense from any line and analytically is an awesome player. But you can put an elite playmakign C alongside Garland and he won't score 30+ goals. Boeser can.

People like to throw the Lindholm comparison around without factoring in the fact that Lindholm really struggled at the beginning of last season and initially here and ended up with 15 goals and 44 points. He's scoring at a similar pace this season. In short, there were red flags to be seen. Boeser too has red flags. He has had seasons where he struggled and he isn't an effective player on the 3rd line. But Boeser did make changes to his game last season (shot location being a big one) and I think that fueled his goal scoring last season and the beginning of this season before his concussion.

Boeser is the current Canucks games played leader and he seems like a great guy. I hope we find a way to keep him and I hope Boeser has success here.

 

[sandwichbird2023]

Outside of injuries and having to deal with his father's declining health and eventual passing, Boeser has scored at a 30+ pace. He put things together last season and scored 40. The other underrated part is that Boeser is a decent passer. So a solid season out of Boeser would be 30+ goals 60+ points. There has been like 0 seasons where Boeser wouldn't have had 50 points if he played 82 games. Take this season, Boeser has the same number of points as Debrusk.

I've said this before, I think the whole play driving aspect of a player can be overrated. It needs to be put into context. Garland is a play driver who can drive offense from any line and analytically is an awesome player. But you can put an elite playmakign C alongside Garland and he won't score 30+ goals. Boeser can.

People like to throw the Lindholm comparison around without factoring in the fact that Lindholm really struggled at the beginning of last season and initially here and ended up with 15 goals and 44 points. He's scoring at a similar pace this season. In short, there were red flags to be seen. Boeser too has red flags. He has had seasons where he struggled and he isn't an effective player on the 3rd line. But Boeser did make changes to his game last season (shot location being a big one) and I think that fueled his goal scoring last season and the beginning of this season before his concussion.

Boeser is the current Canucks games played leader and he seems like a great guy. I hope we find a way to keep him and I hope Boeser has success here.

The problem with looking at Boeser's past is how relevant you expect that to apply to his future. To some, his track record means you are confident that he will continue to put up similar numbers going forward. To me, with his foot speed, his past performance doesn't mean too much to me when I project forward. Not being a play driver is ok when we have 2x 100 pts 1C driving plays and setting him up. When the team doesn't have anybody that can carry him, how valuable is a finisher at 8x8 if nobody can set him up?

 

[racerjoe]

The problem with looking at Boeser's past is how relevant you expect that to apply to his future. To some, his track record means you are confident that he will continue to put up similar numbers going forward. To me, with his foot speed, his past performance doesn't mean too much to me when I project forward. Not being a play driver is ok when we have 2x 100 pts 1C driving plays and setting him up. When the team doesn't have anybody that can carry him, how valuable is a finisher at 8x8 if nobody can set him up?

I think there is no question he will decline, all players do (except maybe Ovie...). I think it is about like you said a matter of how many years unitl.

I am also currently worried about fit. Without Miller we are searching for a good fit for him. His style is also going away from what it looks like we are trying to move toward with more of a speed game.