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bleedgreen said:alright, i dont like lindros either - never did...but how is he not considered a franchise player? he was the top center, or one of the top 5 through out the majority of the 90's! he won the hart trophy! that means he is not only the best player on the flyers - he was the best in the league, you cant judge him not a franchise player for what he is now. your description of that kind of player doesnt fit anyone but highest hall of famers - which is pushing it. is doug gilmour a franchise player? in my opinion, as great as he was - he was only on top of the world for 2 seasons in toronto, but he still deserves consideration, doesnt he? lindros shouldnt be disqualified for the end of his term in philly - i think that was a mess that clarke played a large part in, then blaming eric's dad. lindros almost died of a collapsed lung, and still he was scorned.
I would make the arguements for yashin and bure, but im lazy and dont feel like getting flamed by people with short memories - these guys were in that class. Yzerman was my favorite player to watch throughout my whole life - i would slo mo old highlights on tape to learn how to toe drag and score sweet goals, i respect him to the highest order. He is no longer a big scorer - and is the franchise in his presence only, but if he had been traded 5 years ago to a losing team, limping around for a couple years on bad knees refusing to quit despite dwindling stats and criticisms of an unforgiving media (and people on this board)saying he should of hung them up years ago - would he make your list then? is jagr not on your list? its a crime if he isnt.
Jagr was one of three players to win the Art Ross trophy (4 times I believe?) over a span of 19 years. The most dominant offensive force in the late 90's. He easily is a franchise player, and he easily wore out his welcome in Pittsburgh.
To say he isnt a franchise player, I'll agree, is a crime.