The next new member of the Triple Gold Club

Lartsaman

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Olympics right on the doorstep, some new players are very likely to get into the Triple Gold Club. Only some canadian, russian and swedish players are right now one away.

Canada:

Ryan O´Reilly (IIHF Worlds 2016, SC 2019)
Brad Marchand (IIHF Worlds 2016, SC 2011)
Matt Duchene (IIHF Worlds 2016, OG 2014) (Will get the SC at some point)
Drew Doughty (SC 2012,2014, OG 2010, 2014) (Personally I dont see that happening. He hasnt been so eager to take part in IIHF Worlds.)

Russia:

Alexander Ovechkin (IIHF Worlds 2008, 2012, 2014, SC 2018)
Jevgeni Malkin (IIHF Worlds 2012, 2014, SC 2009, 2016, 2017)
Andrei Vasilevsky (IIHF Worlds 2014, SC 2020, 2021)

Sweden:

Victor Hedman (IIHF Worlds 2017, SC 2020, 2021)

I might have forgotten someone.

As for the US and Finns. If USA wins olympic gold the next year, Patrick Kane might have a good chance to be the first US member by winning the Worlds late in his career. For finnish players things are not looking good. Finns usually end up in losing sides of SC Finals and only a handful of nhl:ers have IIHF Worlds gold medal. I think that Kaapo Kakko have a chance to win a Stanley Cup some time in his career so he will get near at least.

My prediction: Ryan O´Reilly joins the club in February.

Your thoughts?
 
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O'Reilly joining the club in February but not Marchand can pretty much only happen by injury

And Duchene was on the Canada roster in 2014? Damn, that's a long time ago
 
Tyler Seguin needs Olympic gold medal to join Triple Gold Club. He's unlikely to make an Olympic team but not without any chance.
 
Btw, I know you were playing players who are one away, but if we're talking all candidates, Kaprizov, Ilya Sorokin and Nikita Gusev are worth a shout. They still need IIHF gold and a cup, but have checked off the one hardest to attain for non-canadians, so I'd say they're more likely to get there than the older russians with only one shot at Olympic gold left. Grigorenko too of he ever returns to the NHL (and plays for Russia).
 
I always find the triple gold club strange when you consider that an IIHF World Cup has no special meaning, especially for North American players.
 

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Theoretically, Chara could have Medal from WCH, Stanley Cup and if some wonder happens, medal from OG. But that is not a classic Triple Gold Club.

We must wait 15-20 years.
 
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So Valtteri Filppula joins this club as the first finnish person. The situation is, that still most of the players who are one olympic gold away, are playing in the nhl. We might have to wait until 2026 to see some new members. Petteri Lindbohm might have a chance IF he manages to seal his spot at the Panthers roster AND they manage to win Stanley Cup, which is all but likely.

Looks like the incoming years before the olympics, we have to bet on Matt Duchene winning the Cup. MAYBE even Drew Doughty comes to the WC and takes the gold with Canada. I dont see any other candidates.
 
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Ville Pokka has:

WJC Gold 2014, WHC Gold 2022 (and two silvers), OG Gold 2022 and was black ace for Chigago Blackhawks Stanley Cup run in 2015 with 0 NHL-games. I think he has a Stanley cup ring though.

He has also Gagarin cup 2021 and Liiga championship 2014. Hopefully Färjestad will win SHL championship next year so that Pokka will get another won trophy in his resume.
 
Not particularly relevant to your question, but something I was just curious enough to check.

If we suppose that a "Quadruple Gold Club" would include these senior championships as well as the WJC, 12 players would still qualify (Kamensky, Gusarov, Fetisov, Larionov, Mogilny, Sakic, Niedermayer, Pronger, Toews, Bergeron, Crosby and Perry). However, 0 players would qualify for the even more encompassing "Quintuple Gold Club" which would include all of the aforementioned as well as the U18 Championship. Of course, the first U18 edition wasn't played until 1999.
 
I don't know why Canadians always obsess with juniors.

Juniors are not pros. No reason to put them in gold club achievements.
It's just as valid or good an achievement as olympic gold or WHC with b-c or even d teams, why Europes obsession with that crap? it basically means sweet f*** all.

I guess we will never understand each other on these matters and we shouldn't even try anymore.
 
I don't know why Canadians always obsess with juniors.

Juniors are not pros. No reason to put them in gold club achievements.
That's easy.. TSN has marketed the living hell out of the Juniors at Christmas and turned it into a Canadian Xmas past time. Now the tourney is routinely in Canada or a border town to Canada. In huge NHL arenas for very expensive ticket prices.

In fact, leading up the WJHC.. TSN replays all the Canuck victories over the years for a warmup. Not uncommon to tune in to TSN in December and see a previous Gold for Canada. That 6 in a row (I think it was 6?) has been replayed over and over. I think I've seen John Slaney's golden goal at least 1000 times now. And, of course, 'that 2005' team. Plus the 50 best goals of the tourney on TSN and other such features (the allison one is a fav of mine) Not to mention the pregame shows previewing all the Canucks going. It is marketted like the superbowl! TSN has made a lot of money of it!

For instance, they also show the Hlinka and U18 but no hype or marketing at all. So it isn't a Junior hockey obsession but a U20 at Xmas tradition. I'd guess they make more money of the U20 then the U18, WC and Hlinka combined as they do broadcast all 4 of them. I'd venture to say it's not even close because when I watch the Jr's the commercials are coca cola, gatorade and Ford. When I watch the others it's some weird Dr and his back cure and Nivage nose thing a ma jig:

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and of course, you gotta get the good stuff! Something tells me Dr. Ho doesn't pay as well as Coke.lol

Most international hockey fans in Canada watch the Jr's and Stanley Cup playoffs. That is their base of knowledge. They also watch any best on best but those happen as often as unicorns flying around.
 
It's just as valid or good an achievement as olympic gold or WHC with b-c or even d teams, why Europes obsession with that crap? it basically means sweet f*** all.

I guess we will never understand each other on these matters and we shouldn't even try anymore.

It's not valid. The reason people thinks it is valid because of bullshit "best on best" things. The matter of fact is : juniors will always steps further beyond than pro's hockey. Senior Frolunda team can beat the best of any national juniors team any day, any time.

And the best on best things cannot happen quite often because of North American ego of having an 82 games schedule which further extending the SC period. They are the one who refuse to adjust. All the pro's league in the world can adjust, why not NHL (ah yes, always egoistic as hell thinks they always better than others).
 
It's not valid. The reason people thinks it is valid because of bullshit "best on best" things. The matter of fact is : juniors will always steps further beyond than pro's hockey. Senior Frolunda team can beat the best of any national juniors team any day, any time.

And the best on best things cannot happen quite often because of North American ego of having an 82 games schedule which further extending the SC period. They are the one who refuse to adjust. All the pro's league in the world can adjust, why not NHL (ah yes, always egoistic as hell thinks they always better than others).
lol. I couldn't make any sense out of this

Yeah o.k.
 
I couldn't make any sense out of this
If we ignore all the finger pointing, there is one valid point in there - the key reason why the NHL is so incompatible with the international event calendar: the 82-game regular season. With all the pro euro leagues, the number hovers around 60. Thanks to that disrepancy, it is quite difficult to create a calendar that would allow an international event with players from all relevant leagues available. (And now someone, not necessarily you, might say that the NHL is the only relevant league, but that's only if you want to have like just 5 teams in a tournament.)

This being said, if the disrepancy were to be sorted out somehow, then the IIHF should also not arrange the event annually. As even if all the best players were constantly available, they'd likely find the frequency exhausting. One of the things that in fact enables the present annual schedule is the turnover rate within the rosters being considerable. Every year, you get talent who find the event a novelty.
 
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If we ignore all the finger pointing, there is one valid point in there - the key reason why the NHL is so incompatible with the international event calendar: the 82-game regular season. With all the pro euro leagues, the number hovers around 60. Thanks to that disrepancy, it is quite difficult to create a calendar that would allow an international event with players from all relevant leagues available. (And now someone, not necessarily you, might say that the NHL is the only relevant league, but that's only if you want to have like just 5 teams in a tournament.)

This being said, if the disrepancy were to be sorted out somehow, then the IIHF should also not arrange the event annually. As even if all the best players were constantly available, they'd likely find the frequency exhausting. One of the things that in fact enables the present annual schedule is the turnover rate within the rosters being considerable. Every year, you get talent who find the event a novelty.
One thing that I always like about the annual WHC is the roster turnover each year, anticipating who might be coming and who actually does and then what becomes of that collection of players, it's a unique situation.

I do believe though if the NHL and IIHF could sort out a new every 4 years world cup or olympics, then I do think the WHC should be done away with as a yearly event and make that every 2 years or something or maybe even be axed alltogether in order to create more buildup to the world cup or olys, like in Football.

I would prefer a rotating world cup between europe and N.A rather then the olympics because I don't think it would be so rushed and it would be better for hockey as a whole then the olympics ever could be) The olympics has always come off as a get it over with fast event to me, I don't really care for that.
 
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It's a bit surprising Nichushkin didn't play for Russia in the 2018 Olympics since he was in the KHL that season.
 
Kaapo Kakko could be one potential if Rangers ends up winning the Stanley Cup.

Where's his olympic gold... ?

Maybe after 2026.


It's a bit surprising Nichushkin didn't play for Russia in the 2018 Olympics since he was in the KHL that season.

He had that doping case, which prevented to participate.

 
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Theoretically, Chara could have Medal from WCH, Stanley Cup and if some wonder happens, medal from OG. But that is not a classic Triple Gold Club.

We must wait 15-20 years.
The only ones with at least two are Miro Satan and Michal Handzus (SC+WCH), right? Of course, only 4th place at the Olympics.
 
Is triple gold club an overrated term or is it just me?

Olympic Gold and Stanley Cup are steps above WHC, no?
 

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