The Martin St Louis Thread

[Tyson]

I don’t expect us to be great. We’re a young team so it wouldn’t be surprising to see us struggle.

Dead last though? No, I expect better than that.

I was hoping for an 85 point season...I think that's a tall order now.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I was hoping for an 85 point season...I think that's a tall order now.

Yeah I think 85 is where most of us thought we’d be.

 

[Tyson]

Yeah I think 85 is where most of us thought we’d be.

 

[Rapala]

I was hoping for an 85 point season...I think that's a tall order now.

I still think .500 could be possible if we pull out of this tail spin sooner than later but my hope for a tight GF/GA is likely shot to hell.

 

[Tyson]

I still think .500 could be possible if we pull out of this tail spin sooner than later but my hope for a tight GF/GA is likely shot to hell.

Getting the confidence back for so many players won't be easy

 

[Kimota]

Would have made more sense to have veteran ass coaches with him but they are all new , feel like they are all over the place

At least when you have a vet whether it's as assistant or head coach, it's someone that has seen a gazillion scenarios happen after years of coaching. When you have a coach that is new to this job, he is facing things that has never happen to him before and might feel lost and desperate and panic whereas a vet has seen it many times and can fix the problem quickly and move on.

While Marty's relationship with the players might be better than with a vet, I actually fear more for the development of the young guys with an innexperience guy like him cause when things go wrong, an experienced guy might calm things everything down and it's comforting to the young players. If they panic and they see the guy behind the bench panic, it's chaos. They might lose themselves.

 

[Tyson]

What happens if the Habs lose the next 3 games? Stay the course? Keep watching young players regress? Just trying to figure out how things play out...the next 3 games could be significant.

 

[Heffyhoof]

What happens if the Habs lose the next 3 games? Stay the course? Keep watching young players regress? Just trying to figure out how things play out...the next 3 games could be significant.

Find a new scapegoat for the media to write a dozen articles about? Seriously though I'd think a move, with one or more roster players leaving and one or more coming in. Hughes needs to attempt to staunch the bleeding before ejecting MSL, despite that being my preferred choice.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

At least when you have a vet whether it's as assistant or head coach, it's someone that has seen a gazillion scenarios happen after years of coaching. When you have a coach that is new to this job, he is facing things that has never happen to him before and might feel lost and desperate and panic whereas a vet has seen it many times and can fix the problem quickly and move on.

While Marty's relationship with the players might be better than with a vet, I actually fear more for the development of the young guys with an innexperience guy like him cause when things go wrong, an experienced guy might calm things everything down and it's comforting to the young players. If they panic and they see the guy behind the bench panic, it's chaos. They might lose themselves.

Yes i feel the exact same.

Robidas has no coaching experience
Msl had none .

I feel like MSL could have been our Kirk Muller back then .

 

[Tyson]

Find a new scapegoat for the media to write a dozen articles about? Seriously though I'd think a move, with one or more roster players leaving and one or more coming in. Hughes needs to attempt to staunch the bleeding before ejecting MSL, despite that being my preferred choice.

Let's hope it doesn't come to panic moves but it could happen. Watching how hard Buffalo plays i give the Habs zero chance of winning tomorrow and they haven't beat Minnesota it seems since the days of Bill Goldsworthy and Cesare Maniago.

 

[Heffyhoof]

Let's hope it doesn't come to panic moves but it could happen. Watching how hard Buffalo plays i give the Habs zero chance of winning tomorrow and they haven't beat Minnesota it seems since the days of Bill Goldsworthy and Cesare Maniago.

I meant less of a panic move and more of a 'see if you can ship out a DVO or Armia and get actual solid vets'.

 

[jfm133]

Any career coach would be out by now, but hey, MSL is a former star player.

 

[Tyson]

I meant less of a panic move and more of a 'see if you can ship out a DVO or Armia and get actual solid vets'.

There are many dumb GM's out there but I doubt there is even one who would want either of these players

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Any career coach would be out by now, but hey, MSL is a former star player.

Not even close. He’s done pretty well coming into this season. No doubt the team’s struggling now and we might look to change things up but I don’t think you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

They can change the system without changing the coach.

 

[Tyson]

Not even close. He’s done pretty well coming into this season. No doubt the team’s struggling now and we might look to change things up but I don’t think you have to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

They can change the system without changing the coach.

Is Marty willing to change any system? He hasn't shown that to be the case yet

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Is Marty willing to change any system? He hasn't shown that to be the case yet

They were man to man before and hybrid now. I’d say he’s shown a willingness to change things up.

 

[Kimota]

Any career coach would be out by now, but hey, MSL is a former star player.

There's also the fact that he was Hughes' first hire and also the fact that they are in a rebuild and in no worry to compete(at least not as much as the other teams).

But now I think it's time for a change regardless.

 

[dcyhabs]

Never saw Lemaire as a great coach.

He had a defensive system that he could use to make a pretty mediocre team with a good goalie win. He may not have been perfect but the habs haven’t done better since he left.

 

[Habs]

the MSL defenders are just hilarious at this point.

 

[morhilane]

Any career coach would be out by now, but hey, MSL is a former star player.

The leash is always longer for a rebuilding team and there was small improvements the last few games.

Also, who replace MSL? Habs assistants are a career OHL coach and Robidas and I don't think promoting Vincen is a good idea for the prospects down there.

 

[OnTheRun]

The leash is always longer for a rebuilding team and there was small improvements the last few games.

Also, who replace MSL? Habs assistants are a career OHL coach and Robidas and I don't think promoting Vincen is a good idea for the prospects down there.

MSL isn't danger... Unless the Bruins fire their coach.

 

[1909]

Habs were supposed to be in the mix….. They are « mixed » for sure.

 

[Rapala]

What happens if the Habs lose the next 3 games? Stay the course? Keep watching young players regress? Just trying to figure out how things play out...the next 3 games could be significant.

Interesting question.
As a rebuilding team I have no issues dumping everything that will give us something back including Evans who we can always resign if the price is right.
I'd do everything in my power to acquire an asset on the right side to facilitate moving Matheson.
I'd also try to get more than just a handful of games for our forwards who are knocking loudly.
At one point admitting we are lowering some of our expectations might help.
There are still lessons to be learned about how to properly transition into a team who are accountable.

 

[Tyson]

Interesting question.
As a rebuilding team I have no issues dumping everything that will give us something back including Evans who we can always resign if the price is right.
I'd do everything in my power to acquire an asset on the right side to facilitate moving Matheson.
I'd also try to get more than just a handful of games for our forwards who are knocking loudly.
At one point admitting we are lowering some of our expectations might help.
There are still lessons to be learned about how to properly transition into a team who are accountable.

How do you watch every young player though lose confidence and development?

 

[Rapala]

How do you watch every young player though lose confidence and development?

That is a question for HuGo at one point they have to intercede at the NHL level.