Speculation: The market for Mitch Marner's mega millions

[Breakers]

Mark stone is catapulted into the sun and he goes to Vegas

 

[KaprizovSaveUs]

It’s weird that he would be interested in Florida and Vegas. I was told he’s all but going to a burgeoning cup contender like San Jose or Chicago.

 

[DJN21]

Is Marner's defensive rep as much of a mirage as Matthews's was on here? Like Paper Tigers lauded by Toronto fans? I'm not a chart guy so I genuinely asking. My eye test says both are average but I see others saying they are both great defensively so I'm curious....

 

[Legion34]

It’s weird that he would be interested in Florida and Vegas. I was told he’s all but going to a burgeoning cup contender like San Jose or Chicago.

He saw the tax rates

 

[Legion34]

Even with the Florida discount, Marner would become the highest paid Florida Panther, no? I feel like that would be a weird look for them. But who knows.

If he went to Vegas, became the highest paid player on the team, and continued to under produce in the playoffs...you have to imagine Vegas would be doing everything they can to get rid of him - knowing how they work.

LA probably makes the most sense of the three.

How do you sign reinhart for 8 and then Marner for 12?

Marner isn’t taking 8.

 

[Legion34]

Can you provide these stories that he has dumped to the media?

Marners family/agent during the last contract were very public both themselves
And then in through the media (Dreger) in telling stories.

Marners dad went on the radio and said that Mitch should be captain and complained that he didn’t get credit because of McDavid in junior.

There hasn’t been much from their camp this time and it was 6 years ago.

Who knows if they got over it. They don’t seem to have.

 

[Legion34]

unpopular opinion.

I think he ends up staying now. My position jas flipped. I was in the “he’s going to Vegas camp” last year. They needed RW. He needed a fresh start. Toronto needed d.


I moved away from that to see LA as the best fit but dreger is throwing out tax free martkets. Dreger negotiated in the media for him last time. It’s weird. Dreger hasn’t mentioned LA once. You would think that would be a perfect spot.

Now I think he stays. He is 240 pts from all time leading scorer. He is on a top 5 team. Gets to pad his stats with a 60 goal scorer.

He has a young family. They give 8 years and full bonuses. I think he has a love hate relationship here. But why would you leave with 3 years left. He could stay for 3 and move on at 31 with Austin.

He will get passed in points in 2 years. Being the 7th all time scorer in leafs history isn’t the same. He would be giving up a jersey in the rafters and make himself hated.


I think he re groups and ultimately stays

 

[NVious]

Can you provide these stories that he has dumped to the media?

Some guy yelled at Mitch to sign the contract when he was holding out
Some guy dumped garbage on his lawn after the Montreal series
Some guy made a death threat to his baby

 

[Perfect_Drug]

I bet he signs with whoever wins the cup.



Edmonton Dallas or Florida.

And then to make things even worse, he turns into an absolute playoff beast on his new team.
Patrick Kane v2.0

He's gonna get the Conn Smyth during one of his 2 cup wins.

 

[hockeyguy0022]

Some guy yelled at Mitch to sign the contract when he was holding out
Some guy dumped garbage on his lawn after the Montreal series
Some guy made a death threat to his baby

Mitchs dad false flagging to blame leafs fans/the organization as to why he's not a playoff performer.

 

[RuudeDog]

Is Marner's defensive rep as much of a mirage as Matthews's was on here? Like Paper Tigers lauded by Toronto fans? I'm not a chart guy so I genuinely asking. My eye test says both are average but I see others saying they are both great defensively so I'm curious....

They both have had Selke Votes. They are not a mirage defensively at all. Both very good.

 

[Craig Button]

Some guy yelled at Mitch to sign the contract when he was holding out
Some guy dumped garbage on his lawn after the Montreal series
Some guy made a death threat to his baby

OMG that’s insane

how messed up does someone have to be to harass people like that?

These people should be in jail.
I can’t believe people like that exist in our society


Scum of the Earth

 

[Guttersniped]

it's kinda funny how in a way that whole Tavares thing was almost a targeted attack right at the weaknesses of Toronto's management

in a vacuum bringing in someone like Tavares as a free agent seems like a no brainer but if you think ahead at all it should have been obvious that doing that would mean you have to do something along the lines of trading away Marner if you want anything remotely approaching a balanced team

sometimes being in charge of a team means making hard choices and not only did Toronto's management prefer to stick their fingers in their ears and pretend not to have to, they stuck their fingers in their ears so hard they were even coming up with silly catchphrases like "we can and we will(keep the forward core together)" to justify not doing so

The Leafs main problem was Tavares’ deal started in 2018-19, Matthews’ and Marner’s deals started in 2019-20, and then COVID did this:



The Leafs understandably assumed they would have a lot more money to work with.

The cap was growing every year plus Seattle was starting up in 2021-22. The cap had a big 4.5m increase in 2018 after Vegas’ 1st season, the addition of Seattle would have had a similar effect.

Lots of teams struggled under the frozen cap but it was particularly rough for the handful of teams that signed their top stars to +10m deals right before COVID.

 

[Caesium]

Some guy yelled at Mitch to sign the contract when he was holding out
Some guy dumped garbage on his lawn after the Montreal series
Some guy made a death threat to his baby

I think his lawn has been vandalized three different times. One was Montreal merch, one was trash, and another was golf balls. He was also carjacked at gunpoint, which isn't really hockey related but it still happened.

 

[TS Quint]

Weird seeing

It’s weird that he would be interested in Florida and Vegas. I was told he’s all but going to a burgeoning cup contender like San Jose or Chicago.

Weird would be if the Panthers wanted him. All other things aside, this is the GM who traded away Huberdeau and Weager to get the gritt Tkachuk brings into his line up. Then you have their "fck making plays! Pound their defense!!" Coach. Doesn't feel like the Pathers would even consider.

Nashville seems like a Marner type of fit.

 

[AnCatDubh]

I wonder if the Leafs can get any value in return in a sign & trade where they can add the 8th year PLUS pay his July 1 signing bonus and trade him on the 2nd.

 

[tmlfan98]

I think there's a lot of legit possibilities for Marner in terms of signing destinations.

-There's the teams in states with no income tax (Florida/Tampa/Vegas/Nashville/Dallas/Seattle).
-The LA area teams, and it's an open secret in Toronto hockey circles that Marner and his wife like the possibility of living there (LA/Anaheim)
-And the 2 American teams in close proximity to Toronto, so he wouldn't be relocating that far (Detroit/Buffalo)

Whichever one of those teams offers him the best contract from his and his agent's POVs will probably get him. Some of the other rumoured teams I think are just noise with no real substance behind it. I also believe the reports that he doesn't want to sign with a Canadian team.

 

[tomd]

I think there's a lot of legit possibilities for Marner in terms of signing destinations.

-There's the teams in states with no income tax (Florida/Tampa/Vegas/Nashville/Dallas/Seattle).
-The LA area teams, and it's an open secret in Toronto hockey circles that Marner and his wife like the possibility of living there (LA/Anaheim)
-And the 2 American teams in close proximity to Toronto, so he wouldn't be relocating that far (Detroit/Buffalo)

Whichever one of those teams offers him the best contract from his and his agent's POVs will probably get him. Some of the other rumoured teams I think are just noise with no real substance behind it. I also believe the reports that he doesn't want to sign with a Canadian team.

Would be interesting to know if his salary demands are the same regardless of destination.

 

[Contenderorpretender]

Mitchs dad false flagging to blame leafs fans/the organization as to why he's not a playoff performer.

 

[kingsfan28]

Unless all he cares about is money it will be an already good team that has the cap space to add him. He's not going to join some team random bottom feeder for anything under what Draisaitl's next deal will be. My guess is LA, they have a need for more offense, he fits their style of play, they have the cap space, and its a very popular location to live. Also worth noting that the Kings are far from the center of attention in LA, and even if he's the highest paid player on the team, that city has much bigger superstar names in Otani, LeBron, Luka, Kawhi, etc

He probably wouldn't get noticed living in the beach cities where all of the player live . Doughty, Kopitar, Carter [when he played here ] and the like, can easily move around there and be able to have dinner without being constantly approached. Not sure about the high price tag that comes along with Mariner.

 

[Seras]

Letting him walk would be a disaster

 

[Stuzchuk]

my guess, he will want a quiet team... LA OR ANA

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Least likely team he signs with?

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

LA has to sign gavrikov. First. Ducks just makes the most sense. But at what cost

 

[General Fanager]

Letting him walk would be a disaster

The team has 0 choice.

Least likely team he signs with?

Leafs