The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread

[aggressive forecheck]

St. Louis getting passed Colorado and Dallas?

you'd roll up in a little ball and die

 

[Drivesaitl]

Broberg looks amazing. Was clearly still growing into his body which resulted in some awkward plays, and he's still falling down too much for my liking, but wow. Pacing 45 points with no PP time is absolute insanity.

I know we realistically couldn't sign Broberg given our situation (we could've with a high end GM), but it feels bad. Holloway would be our third best player for 2.2 mil. Let that sink in.

Broberg looks just as good as any of our other D by the way -- and only going to get better as he fills out his frame.

Imagine how our stars feel going out for shifts with Podkolzin, Arvidsson, Skinner, Perry etc when we had Holloway.

I've had this thought way too many times.

 

[Canovin]

you'd roll up in a little ball and die

Higher chance of you changing your name again then St. Louis beating those teams

 

[aggressive forecheck]

Higher chance of you changing your name again then St. Louis beating those teams

You better start praying for Calgary to win that wildcard spot.

PS: St. Louis is 4 points back of Edmonton.

 

[MoontoScott]

Some bonehead moves by Oiler management but lets see what happens in the playoffs (Blues are surging, I think they will make the post season). The playoffs are a very different beast. Its where player strengths/weaknesses are amplified.

 

[Drivesaitl]

hate Bowman with the utmost passion. Clown literally said they wouldnt have been able to field the team they have now if he match Holloways offer.

Wtf

Does he really think Oiler fans are this stupid ?
60 points and counting. A slap across McDrais and Oiler fans face

Imagine this team with Holloway running shotgun with Leon. An absolute juggernaught

Its like seeing sequels of Chiarelli TM management trolling the fanbase. Make it stop!

We've had garbage management for so so so long. Its telling that even Holland way past prime was better than these mooks.

 

[Canovin]

You better start praying for Calgary to win that wildcard spot.

PS: St. Louis is 4 points back of Edmonton.

Since you've been following the Blues more than the Oilers. We face the Sharks x 3, Ducks x 1, and Seattle x 1. Those are winnable games. Flames and Blues, the Oilers would beat them as well.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Ken Holland should be tarred and feathered for how he handled Holloway and Broberg lol. Constantly jerking them between the pressbox/AHL and impeding their development by jamming roster spots with inferior veterans that we have to "give playtime to show them respect". By far the worst general manager in the NHL for the 2019-24 era.

My understanding is it had more to do with Woody. Also, indelibly clear that Desharnais was here instead of Bro due to Woody, who loved VD.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Some bonehead moves by Oiler management but lets see what happens in the playoffs (Blues are surging, I think they will make the post season). The playoff are a very different beast. Its where player strengths/weaknesses are amplified.

We're not as good as we were last year. The chances of this team emerging from the West are remarkably slim.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Some bonehead moves by Oiler management but lets see what happens in the playoffs (Blues are surging, I think they will make the post season). The playoff are a very different beast. Its where player strengths/weaknesses are amplified.

Can never count this club out but team is 14th in NHL in regulation Wins. That doesn't speak juggernaut. Maybe they all decide to row in playoffs. Always hard to say.

 

[MoontoScott]

We're not as good as we were last year. The chances of this team emerging from the West are remarkably slim.

I think the team may be a bit weaker but these veterans who have disappointed will (IMHO) step it up.

 

[MoontoScott]

Can never count this club out but team is 14th in NHL in regulation Wins. That doesn't speak juggernaut. Maybe they all decide to row in playoffs. Always hard to say.

And the great X-factor is the injury situation.

If the Oilers had gone into the final last year with a very healthy Drai then I believe they would have won it.

Broberg and Holloway had serious injury histories when they were with the Oilers. Will that factor strike again? There is no way of knowing this but again, the playoffs are a very different type of test.

 

[Drivesaitl]

And the great X-factor is the injury situation.

If the Oilers had gone into the final last year with a very healthy Drai then I believe they would have won it.

Broberg and Holloway had serious injury histories when they were with the Oilers. Will that factor strike again? There is no way of knowing this but again, the playoffs are a very different type of test.

Yeah. I think with Holloway particularly is he's a young player that was still figuring out playing NHL hockey and against men and best players in the world and he's picked his spots better. Afairc he was injuring himself looking for hits and slamming into boards. That kind of stuff. Thats some young jack enthusiasm as well. Both Holloway and Broberg still young growing into man size. Holloway one injury this season getting drilled with a puck right in head, Something that could happen to anybody.

Nobody really expected 2006 run either so you never know. I don't bet on sports and I never would.

 

[MoontoScott]

Yeah. I think with Holloway particularly is he's a young player that was still figuring out playing NHL hockey and against men and best players in the world and he's picked his spots better. Afairc he was injuring himself looking for hits and slamming into boards. That kind of stuff. Thats some young jack enthusiasm as well. Both Holloway and Broberg still young growing into man size. Holloway one injury this season getting drilled with a puck right in head, Something that could happen to anybody.

Nobody really expected 2006 run either so you never know. I don't bet on sports and I never would.

We all pretend to be hockey experts on this site but of course none of us are. Not even you Drive

I am no fan of Oiler management but alot of posters were on the threads early in the season, laughing about Broberg getting "caved" and "getting hurt falling out of bed" and saying that there was no way the Oilers could manage his 4.5M+ salary. Now its assumed by many that the club could have matched. I think that's wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong, some of these guys in Oiler management (going back a lot of years) might burn the house down if you asked them to make a piece of toast but the Oilers weren't going to match both players. The Holloway situation was different--they could have stick handled on that one but that's history now. Let's hope that after this mess they learn something and let Savoie play for a few years before he gets an offer sheet and you know that now offer sheets will no longer be seen as "no go" zones around the NHL. Every GM in the league has watched this situation evolve and is wondering how they can do the same.

Well, the boys will make the playoffs and we'll see what happens. Two of the best players in the world will do their best to make it happen.

 

[Drivesaitl]

We all pretend to be hockey experts on this site but of course none of us are. Not even you Drive

I am no fan of Oiler management but alot of posters were on the threads early in the season, laughing about Broberg getting "caved" and "getting hurt falling out of bed" and saying that there was no way the Oilers could manage his 4.5M+ salary. Now its assumed by many that the club could have matched. I think that's wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong, some of these guys in Oiler management (going back a lot of years) might burn the house down if you asked them to make a piece of toast but the Oilers weren't going to match both players. The Holloway situation was different--they could have stick handled on that one but that's history now. Let's hope that after this mess they learn something and let Savoie play for a few years before he gets an offer sheet and you know that now offer sheets will no longer be seen as "no go" zones around the NHL. Every GM in the league has watched this situation evolve and is wondering how they can do the same.

Well, the boys will make the playoffs and we'll see what happens. Two of the best players in the world will do their best to make it happen.

Sure none of us are experts but easy enough to wonder how the world is run in 2025. Not just the Oilers. haha. In present day one can get used to assessing how poorly everything seems to be managed these days.

Bro was gonna be hard to match and also with the upcoming Booch contract. Not matching Holloway was plain silly.

I have a harder time turning page. you may have noticed.

 

[MoontoScott]

Sure none of us are experts but easy enough to wonder how the world is run in 2025. Not just the Oilers. haha. In present day one can get used to assessing how poorly everything seems to be managed these days.

Bro was gonna be hard to match and also with the upcoming Booch contract. Not matching Holloway was plain silly.

I have a harder time turning page. you may have noticed.

As the old expression goes "the world is so badly mismanaged, one hardly knows who to complain to."

 

[Shanahanigans]

The other part of this is that all of Holloway, Broberg, McLeod and Foegele are among team leaders in plus/minus. McLeod is +10 on a brutal Sabres team. Thats not a coincidence. That run last year taught these guys a ton about responsible 2 way play , and they’ve taken those lessons into their new teams.

 

[Stoneman89]

The other part of this is that all of Holloway, Broberg, McLeod and Foegele are among team leaders in plus/minus. McLeod is +20 on a brutal Sabres team. Thats not a coincidence. That run last year taught these guys a ton about responsible 2 way play , and they’ve taken those lessons into their new teams.

Not sure where you get your stats from, but you may want to look elsewhere. He's +10 this year.

 

[Shanahanigans]

Not sure where you get your stats from, but you may want to look elsewhere. He's +10 this year.

Yes , apologies as I mistyped it without double checking. Plus 10 on a team with a -26 goal differential is impressive.

 

[Mr Positive]

We all pretend to be hockey experts on this site but of course none of us are. Not even you Drive

I am no fan of Oiler management but alot of posters were on the threads early in the season, laughing about Broberg getting "caved" and "getting hurt falling out of bed" and saying that there was no way the Oilers could manage his 4.5M+ salary. Now its assumed by many that the club could have matched. I think that's wishful thinking. Don't get me wrong, some of these guys in Oiler management (going back a lot of years) might burn the house down if you asked them to make a piece of toast but the Oilers weren't going to match both players. The Holloway situation was different--they could have stick handled on that one but that's history now. Let's hope that after this mess they learn something and let Savoie play for a few years before he gets an offer sheet and you know that now offer sheets will no longer be seen as "no go" zones around the NHL. Every GM in the league has watched this situation evolve and is wondering how they can do the same.

Well, the boys will make the playoffs and we'll see what happens. Two of the best players in the world will do their best to make it happen.

We could have had Broberg for a lot less than his 4.5. He even gave his offer sheet to the Oilers just to avoid getting the sub 1 million they were offering. I'm assuming that was the offer because that's all the space was left after Jackson's spending spree. The Holloway offer sheet was likely more spontaneous. A smart move by the Blues to ramp up the pressure.

I was always a fan of Broberg but I'm not claiming special insight. I'll say this too. We probably don't get Walman if we kept Broberg. Walman might be better this season.

Also we are a playoff focused team. Jeff Skinner and Arvidsson have a chance to prove their worth

 

[McFlash97]

Last years team absolutely merks this ancient relic of a mess Bowman and Jackson have assembled. We are playoff fodder. Dont see a way we get past round 2. We might be done in round 1. If that happens. You have to fire these clowns the next day. How can any sane Oiler fan defend not matching Holloway or find proper goaltending ? Its inexcusable

 

[MoontoScott]

We could have had Broberg for a lot less than his 4.5. He even gave his offer sheet to the Oilers just to avoid getting the sub 1 million they were offering. I'm assuming that was the offer because that's all the space was left after Jackson's spending spree. The Holloway offer sheet was likely more spontaneous. A smart move by the Blues to ramp up the pressure.

I was always a fan of Broberg but I'm not claiming special insight. I'll say this too. We probably don't get Walman if we kept Broberg. Walman might be better this season.

Also we are a playoff focused team. Jeff Skinner and Arvidsson have a chance to prove their worth

I think we have to reserve some judgement here until we see the playoff performances. That's not to defend dumb decisions but if the Oilers good deep into the playoffs then people will be more forgiving.

 

[McShogun99]

Last years team absolutely merks this ancient relic of a mess Bowman and Jackson have assembled. We are playoff fodder. Dont see a way we get past round 2. We might be done in round 1. If that happens. You have to fire these clowns the next day. How can any sane Oiler fan defend not matching Holloway or find proper goaltending ? Its inexcusable

So much of this years playoff success is going to depend on if Skinner can at least give us average goaltending. McDrai will do their thing like they do every year but we can only win so many 4-3 games in the playoffs. My biggest worry is having to play LA again. They keep trying to build a team to try and beat us and if they do that will be their Stanley Cup.

 

[McFlash97]

I think we have to reserve some judgement here until we see the playoff performances. That's not to defend dumb decisions but if the Oilers good deep into the playoffs then people will be more forgiving.

Going deep in the playoffs doesnt cut it anymore. Its cup or bust. If we brought back last years team with Holloway, Foegle and a goalie. Remove Podkolzin, Stuart Skinner, and Klingberg we probably win the cup going away.

 

[MoontoScott]

Going deep in the playoffs doesnt cut it anymore. Its cup or bust. If we brought back last years team with Holloway, Foegle and a goalie. Remove Podkolzin, Stuart Skinner, and Klingberg we probably win the cup going away.

Its probably better than a 1st round exit?