The Locker Cleanout Thread, 2025 edition; Friday First Press Segments, Saturday Second Group and Adams/Ruff

[Chainshot]

I think its more important to get those extra picks when you are actively using the early round picks to acquire players.

How many pick for players trades have we seen under Adams? Greenway, Malenstyn, and now the pick in the Norris deal.

The issue under Adams is we've used too many picks, so I'm not upset we haven't added more.

It also allows for one to *gasp* move around in earlier positions in the draft.

As someone beating the drum that they needed to use one of the five firsts they had and still used in the 21-22 draft years, I am aware of the puck issue. There is another point of this too - trying to force all of those picks into the farm at the same time. Arrivals are not staggered.

The real issue is Adams is unwilling to help other teams to facilitate deals. That is just relationship building across the board. The NHL is a pretty small circle and you can see where GMs friends get preferential treatment. Adams is an outsider because its not like he came up in another organization with guys who are now GMs or on other staffs elsewhere. The only relationships he has are from his time as a player. I love what Grier is doing in San Jose because he's willing to help other teams now while his team is in building mode and has space. He's planting seeds now he hopes to harvest later by building working relationships.

Adams unwillingness to help teams out by taking on a meh contract for a year or two or use the cap space to pick up an extra pick is him not playing the relationship game with other GMs. Its hard to quantify if there is a real value attainable value to it, but the fact he's struggled to get many trades done speaks to a difficulty to working with other teams.

Just be cautious because you see a certain cross-section of former assistant general managers who are constantly helping one another out: Chuck Fletcher, Fitzgerald, Guerin. Hell, drunken Billy essentially crashed the market a couple seasons ago. Botterill did teams too many solids.

I would say it has more to do with the fact that Adams doesn’t call anybody. He’s about as proactive as Regier.

 

[TehDoak]

It also allows for one to *gasp* move around in earlier positions in the draft.

As someone beating the drum that they needed to use one of the five firsts they had and still used in the 21-22 draft years, I am aware of the puck issue. There is another point of this too - trying to force all of those picks into the farm at the same time. Arrivals are not staggered.

This circles back to no adults in the room. Nobody knows what good teams do because nobody has been a crucial part of a good team. Outside of Karmanos, nobody has been a part of winning org, and we don't know how "big" of a role Karmanos played there. Given the Penguins let him go before we signed him, sounds like not a huge role.

The Sabres moves under Adams have a 'blind leading the blind' feel.

Just be cautious because you see a certain cross-section of former assistant general managers who are constantly helping one another out: Chuck Fletcher, Fitzgerald, Guerin. Hell, drunken Billy essentially crashed the market a couple seasons ago. Botterill did teams too many solids.

I would say it has more to do with the fact that Adams doesn’t call anybody. He’s about as proactive as Regier.

He certainly doesn't seem very plugged into the market. My favorite part is that every time a big name hits the rumor mill, Adams will call the team to check it and then leak that he called about it Friedman. Gotta have that illusion of due diligence.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

My favorite part is that every time a big name hits the rumor mill, Adams will call the team to check it and then leak that he called about it Friedman. Gotta have that illusion of due diligence.

I can’t tell if you are joking but he 100% does this.

 

[GellMann]

I can’t tell if you are joking but he 100% does this.

do we know that he actively looks to leak info to make himself look better like this? for sure?

 

[TehDoak]

I can’t tell if you are joking but he 100% does this.

He really does

do we know that he actively looks to leak info to make himself look better like this? for sure?

Literally every big name, one of the big rumor mongers will say "Kevyn Adams called about so and so"

Then the press will ask him and he will say "You know, its just part of my job to call and see"

 

[itwasaforwardpass]

League will punish them by taking a draft pick away from the Sens:

Plus a 2 minute minor for Zach Benson.