TV: The Last of Us (HBO)

Fast and loose with the spoilers, guys.

Well this was the one thing about TLOU Part 2 I had spoiled for me before the first season even came out so I have no idea what happens now.

Heart wrenching that Ellie had to watch that happen in real time. I'd imagine Dina would be her first lead as she saw their wolf logo.

Interesting that Abby's group all had different reactions to what Abby was doing/did. I'd imagine that will be relevant later.

Didn't actually know the doctor was Abby's dad when I had that spoiled for me. (I mean honestly, people had zero restraint when that game came out. I saw that spoiler at least three times without looking for it and without warning around the internet.) knowing that now, the killing makes sense. What Joel did, looking at it in black and white, is awful. And potentially catastrophic for humanity. But knowing this reasons, it's at least understandable. So when I see Abby's group so close to Jackson Hole I'm left wondering, are they really trekking this far and through these conditions just to punish Joel? Knowing the doctor was Abby's dad...I mean it still seems like a huge risk to life and limb to help Abby but at least I can see why they'd want to help a squadmate get revenge. As for Abby, totally understandable why she did what she did. Joel reaped what he sowed in the end. Having the full context I really don't get why fans of the games were so upset but maybe the game played it differently. I'm sure there will be some wider story/theme about how harmful revenge is, but all this was was Joel's choice having fatal consequences.

This is a minor gripe because the infected attack on Jackson Hole was an insane spectacle, but why did all those infected wake up at once? And how did they all know to run towards the city? As far as we've seen, the infected reacted to noise as an indicator for the presence of uninfected humans while regular infected can see them but still, it's not like when Joel and Ellie would pull up to a new city or town, the local infected just swarmed as a hivemind and detected them from distance. This attack involved a huge swarm of infected, as a unit, running a great distance together to attack the main gate of the city. I'd assume this happened in the game too so I'm wondering why they're bending the rules of this world this way. And on top of that, maybe I misunderstood something from Season 1 but isnt the whole thing with this fictional mutated strain of cordyceps that it thrives in warm conditions? Like sure maybe there's still climate change in the world but you have a swarm of infected go from inert to a hive mind attack and a huge chain of the fungus living in the pipes in the middle of what they show pretty clearly is a cold ass winter. Did the fungus evolve again? Cause if it can survive under any condition and getting a cure from Ellie is impossible, then humanity here is just f***ed. Top to bottom. Short of living on boats and subsisting on fish, I don't see how humanity, in a place like JH, can hope to survive and the odds were minimal to begin with. Like is that..the point? Bleak human stories in between humanity's final breaths?
Gamers were mad because of a tragic death involving a beloved character while another watched helplessly in horror. The show was pretty similar in that aspect. You can say that gamers have spent a lot more time with these characters, just due to the length of the games as opposed to the show, which also might play into how they felt about it.

I will say that the game only hinted at who Abby and her crew were at that point in the story, while the show made it abundantly clear on multiple occasions. So that was a bit of a difference. The show also had Ellie basically admit that her and Joel had a breakthrough and are trying to work things out, something the game did not do until much, much later.

There is one additional thing that pissed off gamers about this, but I'm going to spoil tag it because it's almost certainly a season 3 spoiler.
You play as Abby for most of the 2nd half of the game (TLOU Part 2), which is just more salt in the wounds of those who already hated the character after killing Joel.
 
Gamers were mad because of a tragic death involving a beloved character while another watched helplessly in horror. The show was pretty similar in that aspect. You can say that gamers have spent a lot more time with these characters, just due to the length of the games as opposed to the show, which also might play into how they felt about it.

I will say that the game only hinted at who Abby and her crew were at that point in the story, while the show made it abundantly clear on multiple occasions. So that was a bit of a difference. The show also had Ellie basically admit that her and Joel had a breakthrough and are trying to work things out, something the game did not do until much, much later.

There is one additional thing that pissed off gamers about this, but I'm going to spoil tag it because it's almost certainly a season 3 spoiler.
You play as Abby for most of the 2nd half of the game (TLOU Part 2), which is just more salt in the wounds of those who already hated the character after killing Joel.
I knew I was forgetting a spoiler. Like don't get me wrong I understand that Joel is the defacto protagonist of the first game and players probably felt justified on the level of "he did what he had to do for someone he loves and cares about" but like end of the day, his paying the price for his choice should at least have been considered a very realistic possibility.
 
Spoiler tags for the episode that just aired are nice but imo not completely necessary as you shouldnt be in here on a Sunday night if you havent watched yet because obviously the newest episode is gonna be the discussion, more like guidelines than actual rules

What is trash is "ARE THEY GONNA KILL THE BIG NAME ACTOR NOW OR ARE THEY GONNA DO IT LATER, CAUSE IT DIDNT GO WELL IN THE GAME AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WATCH THE SHOW ONCE THEY ARE DEAD"

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Spoiler tags for the episode that just aired are nice but imo not completely necessary as you shouldnt be in here on a Sunday night if you havent watched yet because obviously the newest episode is gonna be the discussion, more like guidelines than actual rules

What is trash is "ARE THEY GONNA KILL THE BIG NAME ACTOR NOW OR ARE THEY GONNA DO IT LATER, CAUSE IT DIDNT GO WELL IN THE GAME AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WATCH THE SHOW ONCE THEY ARE DEAD"

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Exactly. I had the big surprise ruined because of multiple people in here making comments like that and saying "we'll see who's here for the show and who's here to watch a certain actor" as if we don't know who they're talking about. Completely agree with your first paragraph too.
 
I mean the MO in the Severance thread was we usually run the spoiler tags for a few days after an episode's release. Don't think we have a written rule, but just a courtesy. Sometimes people are fine with general discussion without wanting to see plot details early.
If that's the case then how am I supposed to know which spoilers talk only about this episode and which ones spoil future episodes?

Staying out of the thread until you've seen the most recent episode seems like the best way to go.
 
Spoiler tags for the episode that just aired are nice but imo not completely necessary as you shouldnt be in here on a Sunday night if you havent watched yet because obviously the newest episode is gonna be the discussion, more like guidelines than actual rules

What is trash is "ARE THEY GONNA KILL THE BIG NAME ACTOR NOW OR ARE THEY GONNA DO IT LATER, CAUSE IT DIDNT GO WELL IN THE GAME AND PEOPLE MIGHT NOT WATCH THE SHOW ONCE THEY ARE DEAD"

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Yeah everyone in here probably put together who was dying by the game players discussing it every third post. I'll probably just avoid threads in general for shows based on books/games in the future. It's a shame some people just couldn't help themselves.

I will say though, this episode had a very game of thrones season 1 finale feel to me. Everything goes wrong but you still think a main character won't just be killed here. Surely Ellie comes in and saves the day? I figured he'd die but I wasn't exactly sure it would be here. Couldn't fully believe it until iy was done.

Fantastic episode all around. What was really refreshing to me is seeing a zombie show where the characters actually have a solid plan and don't get overrun by something stupid IE TWD every third episode. I do worry about the future of this show though because imo Pascal was carrying most scenes. I don't hate Ellie but she's just an okay character to me.
 
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Season 3 will be a clip show season, then season 4 will be back to the revenging
I have a feeling someone else is going to be double crossed and the revengee will become the revengeruer.

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Im an old guy and have never played video games. This show had me hooked since it began. After watching the other night Im equally shocked and pissed off . Never expected what I saw.
I have mixed feelings on what goes on now and how. I will still watch but yeah Im blown away right now.

Oh and as for a debate that occurred in here, no, we do not post spoilers and discuss the show. If you feel the need use a spoiler tag.

Theres a separate forum to discuss games. Thanks.
 
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Im an old guy and have never played video games. This show had me hooked since it began. After watching the other night Im equally shocked and pissed off . Never expected what I saw.
I have mixed feelings on what goes on now and how. I will still watch but yeah Im blown away right now.

Oh and as for a debate that occurred in here, no, we do not post spoilers and discuss the show. If you feel the need use a spoiler tag.

Theres a separate forum to discuss games. Thanks.
I don't understand this part. How do you talk about the show. Like what was posted earlier, if it comes from a book or a video game I understand spoiling it but you can't talk about the last episode?

What other reason would you be in this thread?
 
I don't understand this part. How do you talk about the show. Like what was posted earlier, if it comes from a book or a video game I understand spoiling it but you can't talk about the last episode?

What other reason would you be in this thread?

Give it a few days after an episode ran to give folks a chance to see for themselves and sure as shit dont post stuff in advance that may be in the game story. Same as we did for other things like Game of Thrones.
 
Im an old guy and have never played video games. This show had me hooked since it began. After watching the other night Im equally shocked and pissed off . Never expected what I saw.
I have mixed feelings on what goes on now and how. I will still watch but yeah Im blown away right now.

Oh and as for a debate that occurred in here, no, we do not post spoilers and discuss the show. If you feel the need use a spoiler tag.

Theres a separate forum to discuss games. Thanks.
So is it safe to the read spoiler tags posted yesterday or will they include spoilers for future episodes?
 
In my opinion spoilers should be used for at least two days after airing. And always looking forward if they come from the game. Just common courtesy for all.
If anyone chooses to read spoilers tagged before watching thats on them.
Like to me right now ok to discuss Sundays episode.
 
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Give it a few days after an episode ran to give folks a chance to see for themselves and sure as shit dont post stuff in advance that may be in the game story. Same as we did for other things like Game of Thrones.
What is the difference if we are in an NFL thread and talking about a game after the fact? No one would say wait to talk about the results. I think the people who haven't seen the game or the episode shouldn't be in the thread at all if they don't want it to be spoiled for them. If it takes you 3 days to watch the episode it probably isn't that important.

What does one talk about if they are not up to date on the story?

Again if we are talking about movies then yeah not everyone can be the first one to see it. The day after Macgyver aired everyone wanted to talk about it. If you were that one kid who's mom made you watch Falcon Crest instead, that's life.
 

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