GDT: The Hurricanes Play a Bunch of Senators

DaveG

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Recent hockey history is littered with defensive teams going on runs, most recently the Islanders and Habs in 2021.

They just need to bear down defensively. Unacceptable sloppiness defensively this evening.
Those teams also got otherworldly goaltending as well in the playoffs. I have no faith in any of our guys outside Kooch being the one to do that right now, and I don't think Kooch is ready to be that guy just yet. You never know though, he could do an 06 Cam Ward imitation as well, but that's our best hope at this point. Raanta I don't think will stay healthy (and his last couple outings have been kinda shaky) and Freddy has turned back into a pumpkin.
 

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Those teams also got otherworldly goaltending as well in the playoffs. I have no faith in any of our guys outside Kooch being the one to do that right now, and I don't think Kooch is ready to be that guy just yet. You never know though, he could do an 06 Cam Ward imitation as well, but that's our best hope at this point. Raanta I don't think will stay healthy (and his last couple outings have been kinda shaky) and Freddy has turned back into a pumpkin.
What is crazy is our defense was so meh in the 06 playoffs, despite our great offense, we likely don’t go anywhere without Ward going crazy.
 

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Brett Pesce has f***ing awful lately. His poor skating is becoming more and more apparent. The effort sucks too. Please Justin Faulk his ass this offseason and move on. Move Chatty up to the 2RHD.
i rather just move both down , Pesce on 3rd line to play with Morrow/Seeley/Honka get a top 4 defensemen , Chat #7 on Standby , i wanna see our young players play , seen enough of Drury
 

Finlandia WOAT

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Brett Pesce has f***ing awful lately. His poor skating is becoming more and more apparent. The effort sucks too. Please Justin Faulk his ass this offseason and move on. Move Chatty up to the 2RHD.
Kinda reminds of the old LaRose discourse.

Constantly pumping your feet at the NHL level does not mean you're a good skater, it means the opposite.
 
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I have this picture of Sogaard in the crease, and Noesen’s behind right up against his mask … but of course I have zero clue how to post it. Being a tech tard. Anyway, I’m not sure it’s as bad of a call as some of you are making it out to be. Open to discussion of course.

Canes need their best players to be their best players, now more than ever. Can’t have Aho being useless even for one game. And a goalie has to step up and be a brick wall at least once/three games or so. To let the players breathe a little.

Also … they look so gassed. The opportunity was there, at least on defense, to give a guy a night off here or there.
 

AhosDatsyukian

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Brett Pesce has f***ing awful lately. His poor skating is becoming more and more apparent. The effort sucks too. Please Justin Faulk his ass this offseason and move on. Move Chatty up to the 2RHD.
I re-sign Skjei before Pesce at this point. And I don’t think we’ll keep both. Also starting to think Nikishin will be a Burns replacement next to Slavin. Morrow/Chat will replace Pesce in 2024. Slavin obviously a lifetime Hurricane
 

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The GI call was iffy, a 50/50 call in normal circumstances. But when it's in the middle of a 5-on-3?

Yeah, that's getting called 100% of the time.
 
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You guys are out to lunch about Pesce, but I know you’re all out of sorts currently. He gets kudos all game long from opposing broadcasts, especially lately. For every play you think he messed up there’s about ten you missed where he did the thing that was needed. His actual mess ups are pretty rare. Skjei is likely to be overpaid as an offensive producer, who does a fraction of the dirty work his partner does.

Hats off to Ottawa’s broadcast for calling out their own goalie for diving on the play of the game. They sympathized with Rod’s daily eruption.
 

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Yeah that goalie dove like Greg Louganis. But like… oh well. I’m not super stressed that we might only win the division two years in a row instead of three. And I mean we still very well might. It’ll be entertaining either way
 

Cardiac Jerks

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I think Noesen brushed the goalie outside the crease. But he hardly hit him as hard as he acted. Definitely not enough to knock him down. It was an act job.
They showed it zoomed in on the jumbotron and he got him lightly but the speed at which Søgaard whipped his head around didn’t match at all with the speed Noesen was moving at.

I re-sign Skjei before Pesce at this point. And I don’t think we’ll keep both. Also starting to think Nikishin will be a Burns replacement next to Slavin. Morrow/Chat will replace Pesce in 2024. Slavin obviously a lifetime Hurricane
Nikishin plays the left side, no?
 

Negan4Coach

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The bias in this officiating is worse than fifa. Refs have to be getting instructions.

Tim peel level.

I think it is simple as they have grown to despise Rod for having an absolute spaz attack each and everytime something doesn't go his way. And likely, they have zero respect for Canes players who are soft and get pushed around and respond only with ticky-tack retaliation instead of taking the body. So if there is something even as ridiculous as a goaltender throwing himself to the ice- they are getting dinged, and every team knows it now, and acts accordingly.

Tough hill to climb come playoff time under any circumstances.
 
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The boys look mentally tired.

Maybe try something different and give them extra rest heading into the POs?

Maybe this is what they're trying?

"Boys, just go play. Don't worry about the score, be really bad for all I care. Just don't overexert yourselves."


In all seriousness though, Rod has been clear, on the record, that the system they play requires 110% effort and falls apart and looks awful if you have anything less than that. Let's hope we hold on to the division, but also let's hope this is just a collective lull before the whole room gets reinspired come Game 1 of the playoffs.

I'm most concerned about goaltending. Last year it was "oh well, Andersen's not available." This year I'm not sure we want him being the guy heading into Round 1 if we have the choice.
 

AhosDatsyukian

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They showed it zoomed in on the jumbotron and he got him lightly but the speed at which Søgaard whipped his head around didn’t match at all with the speed Noesen was moving at.


Nikishin plays the left side, no?
He has with SKA but I believe with Spartak he played his off side at times.
 

CanesUltimate11

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You guys are out to lunch about Pesce, but I know you’re all out of sorts currently. He gets kudos all game long from opposing broadcasts, especially lately. For every play you think he messed up there’s about ten you missed where he did the thing that was needed. His actual mess ups are pretty rare. Skjei is likely to be overpaid as an offensive producer, who does a fraction of the dirty work his partner does.

Hats off to Ottawa’s broadcast for calling out their own goalie for diving on the play of the game. They sympathized with Rod’s daily eruption.
Frankly if anyone on that pairing should be getting called out for the 3rd goal its Skjei for being past the puck up ice while Pesce is being hounded by two Sens players at the blue line. Made the break away/drop pass that much easier since Skjei had to play catchup instead of already being between them and the goal.
 

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Lot's of negative vibes around here. But understandable.

That said, I've been through worse as a Canes fan.
I mean we certainly have, It just stings more because with better injury luck we would be legitimate cup contenders....
 

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I'll just add that tonight was one of THE worst performances I've seen from Aho in quite some time. Two needless penalties, and any offense just died in his stick.

It's probably the worst game I've seen him play this season. Granted I haven't watched every game but he looked entirely unengaged.
 
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