OT: The Football Team formerly known as Redskins - Super Bowl 2025 or bust! [2025-26 Offseason Extravaganza Edition]

[kicksavedave]

Myles Garrett would solve a lot of needs.

These late 1st mean nothing to me .. if youre outside the top 15 you arent drafting a day 1 starter

Get Myles Garrett and lets play in the deep end of the pool with the older kids

I mean there's no guarantee on any draft pick, but we got Mikey and Coleman well out of the top 15. The Eagles got Mitchell and DeJean well out of the top 15. Lamar Jackson was well out of the top 15. It happens all the time. I get what you're saying is that top 15 picks are EXPECTED to be a day 1 starter, but later picks are still very valuable. That all said, no pick in this entire draft will be as impactful as Garrett on day one, with the possible exception of Abdul Carter. But Garrett will cost a fortune not just in picks but also in salary, and 1-3 round draft picks are practically free within the salary cap.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Deebo labels departure from 49ers 'bittersweet'

Deebo Samuel called his departure from San Francisco "bittersweet" but said Washington was always one of his preferred destinations after requesting a trade from the 49ers in part because of quarterback Jayden Daniels.

www.espn.com

Didn’t realize he had asked out…

He asked Shanahan for a trade in a meeting with him after the season..

"This is one of the best possible fits for me, where I can go in and help a team," Samuel wrote. "When my agent asked me where I wanted to go, this was one of the teams at the top of my list. I knew [Daniels] was going to be a stud. Definitely ready to work with Terry for sure, because we came in the league at the same time. I've heard how hard he grinds. I'm just ready to match the energy and get to it."

 

[Neil Racki]

I mean there's no guarantee on any draft pick, but we got Mikey and Coleman well out of the top 15. The Eagles got Mitchell and DeJean well out of the top 15. Lamar Jackson was well out of the top 15. It happens all the time. I get what you're saying is that top 15 picks are EXPECTED to be a day 1 starter, but later picks are still very valuable. That all said, no pick in this entire draft will be as impactful as Garrett on day one, with the possible exception of Abdul Carter. But Garrett will cost a fortune not just in picks but also in salary, and 1-3 round draft picks are practically free within the salary cap.

Yes, all picks have value. TB was a 6th round pick ... etc we all know how that conversation goes.

640 pts for our 29th, 1,050 for Atlanta's 15th

Id gladly trade Isiah Likely (28th) and Anundike-Ozumah (31st) (chiefs past 2 1st rounders) for Myles Garrett .. then use our 2nd and 3rd to get guys like Sainistrial and Coleman

We dont suck anymore. We are a big name FA destination now. Adam Peters said if the draft and 2024 goes well, we are big name hunting come FA 2025.

We are a top 6 team in the League, will be drafting post 25 every draft for the next few years. Im ready to start acting like a big dog.

Cap worries? Cap is an illusion, add void years, restucture kicking future money down the road for a cap that just increases. Look at the Eagles. Look at the cowboys, saints were 100M over the cap and still made cap compliant

I got a bad f***ing taste in my mouth watching that run D and no one able to win 1v1 on the edge.

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(Coleman .. im not inking him in as my starting LT .. lots of promise for a 3rd rounder but I do think fanbase is overhyping him ... he'd be my swing T in a perfect roster)

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Yes, all picks have value. TB was a 6th round pick ... etc we all know how that conversation goes.

640 pts for our 29th, 1,050 for Atlanta's 15th

Id gladly trade Isiah Likely (28th) and Anundike-Ozumah (31st) (chiefs past 2 1st rounders) for Myles Garrett .. then use our 2nd and 3rd to get guys like Sainistrial and Coleman

We dont suck anymore. We are a big name FA destination now. Adam Peters said if the draft and 2024 goes well, we are big name hunting come FA 2025.

We are a top 6 team in the League, will be drafting post 25 every draft for the next few years. Im ready to start acting like a big dog.

Cap worries? Cap is an illusion, add void years, restucture kicking future money down the road for a cap that just increases. Look at the Eagles. Look at the cowboys, saints were 100M over the cap and still made cap compliant

I got a bad f***ing taste in my mouth watching that run D and no one able to win 1v1 on the edge.

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(Coleman .. im not inking him in as my starting LT .. lots of promise for a 3rd rounder but I do think fanbase is overhyping him ... he'd be my swing T in a perfect roster)

@Bananas won’t like this one bit!

I’m with you, clock is ticking…..4 years until JD5 gets paid for real.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

 

[Cush]

 

[kicksavedave]

Wow, I think the lesson here is that you can't pay superstars at every position, you have to be selective and you can maybe pay 3 of them. They've chosen them to be JB, Chase and THiggins. Maybe they could have figured out how to slip all four of them in, but then what other sacrifices would they be forced to make?

Team building in the NFL Cap era demands hitting on lots of draft picks to surround your few stars. There's literally no other method that will work. You can neither buy your way to a Super Bowl, nor keep one together with just money. You need to keep the pipeline of cheap talent flowing in each year.

 

[ynotcaps]

OK, I'm listening...

 

[RedRocking]

Myles Garrett would solve a lot of needs.

These late 1st mean nothing to me .. if youre outside the top 15 you arent drafting a day 1 starter

Get Myles Garrett and lets play in the deep end of the pool with the older kids

I think the problem, though, is that the Browns can’t trade him before this draft. If they move him before June 1, they would eat a colossal $36.2M dead cap hit.

They’re already $24M over the cap, and combined with the Watson contract, the dead money from a MG trade would make it hard to field a full roster.

So unless they could restructure before an and do a sign a trade (not sure how that would work, if even possible), we’d be talking our ‘26, ‘27 1sts. We might be drafting higher, those drafts could be better - who knows.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I think the problem, though, is that the Browns can’t trade him before this draft. If they move him before June 1, they would eat a colossal $36.2M dead cap hit.

They’re already $24M over the cap, and combined with the Watson contract, the dead money from a MG trade would make it hard to field a full roster.

So unless they could restructure before an and do a sign a trade (not sure how that would work, if even possible), we’d be talking our ‘26, ‘27 1sts. We might be drafting higher, those drafts could be better - who knows.

They just restructured Watson again….cleared almost $36 mil.

 

[ynotcaps]

Wow, I think the lesson here is that you can't pay superstars at every position, you have to be selective and you can maybe pay 3 of them. They've chosen them to be JB, Chase and THiggins. Maybe they could have figured out how to slip all four of them in, but then what other sacrifices would they be forced to make?

Team building in the NFL Cap era demands hitting on lots of draft picks to surround your few stars. There's literally no other method that will work. You can neither buy your way to a Super Bowl, nor keep one together with just money. You need to keep the pipeline of cheap talent flowing in each year.

Amen. For the entirety of Burrow's career, they've fielded a sub-optimal OL and it's cost them games during his prime and probably a couple years off the back-end of career -- and a quicker decline overall because of the beating he's taken. I'd argue that they should have let Tee walk and use a good bit of that money to improve their line. Hopefully that's the thinking in letting Hendrickson find a new home.

That's why I'm adamant that we've got to pour resources into our OL -- we've got a golden ticket, we've got to protect the hell out of it. (And 100% agree on @Neil Racki on Coleman -- decent value for a rookie 3rd rounder, but was only our starter because we don't have a better option. And having JD5 mandates that we find a better option.)

 

[kicksavedave]

They just restructured Watson again….cleared almost $36 mil.

Yes, but they now also have $52M in dead cap space, which is 3rd worst in the league. If they added another $34M on top of that they'd be by far the most dead cap in the league (currently the 49rs are tops at $66M). They will just be really hard pressed to take on the $34M hit if they move him in any way before June 1.

 

[kicksavedave]

There's also the possibility that Hendrickson simply told the Bungles that he won't sign anymore 1 year deals and that he'll walk in free agency next year so they're forced to move him or lose him for nothing. Like Garrett, he's worth much more than any DE in this draft, maybe only Abdul Carter being a close exception. Cincy has cap space to sign him long term and Higgins, but then adding Chase new deal and it starts to get dicey.

Regardless of the reasoning, the Bungles are gonna Bungle, its what they do.

 

[Ridley Simon]

I’d take Hendrickson over Garrett. Simply because cost.

Or sign Reddick and or Sweat

 

[EroCaps]

I mean Hendrickson makes some sense but I’d be hesitant to trade the future for anyone not Myles Garrett.

For a 2nd? Immediately.

 

[RedRocking]

Yes, but they now also have $52M in dead cap space, which is 3rd worst in the league. If they added another $34M on top of that they'd be by far the most dead cap in the league (currently the 49rs are tops at $66M). They will just be really hard pressed to take on the $34M hit if they move him in any way before June 1.

Yea, this Watson restructure was just to get them cap compliant. Gives them about 12M to sign their draft picks, maybe some marginal FAs. I’m no expert on their roster, but from what I’ve read they just don’t really have many moves for further cap savings.

Besides the fact that they’ve said they aren’t moving him, it just seems like a financial non-starter pre-June 1.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Yes, but they now also have $52M in dead cap space, which is 3rd worst in the league. If they added another $34M on top of that they'd be by far the most dead cap in the league (currently the 49rs are tops at $66M). They will just be really hard pressed to take on the $34M hit if they move him in any way before June 1.

Feels like they’re dumping the next 2 years to me, saddled with Watson and no way out. Not sure what makes the most sense cap-wise if they do that….