Prospect Info: The First Annual Jaster Prospect Ranking List

[Fil Larkmanthanasiou]

1 ASP
2 Buchelnikov
3 Cossa
4 Daniel son
5 Lombardi
6 MBN
7 Augustine
8 Mazur
9 Plante
10 Finnie
11 Kiiskinen
12 Wallinder
13 Buium
14 Anton Johansson
15 Savage

 

[Frk It]

You guys are really testing my patience with these lists without NDN on it.

 

[izlez]

You guys are really testing my patience with these lists without NDN on it.

-He's had a total of 15 points playing in a variety of different leagues and tournaments since we drafted him a year and a half ago.
-His brother has been an unsuccessful prospect.
-I can not differentiate between the brothers and have no idea which is the older one and which is the younger one.

As you can see, he is clearly just not a very good prospect

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

You guys are really testing my patience with these lists without NDN on it.

Best case: Middle 6 winger
Likely case: AHL/SHL top 6 winger

 

[Henkka]

Noah is clearly in front of the development vs his brother.

 

[simonedvinsson]

01. GT Sebastian Cossa
02. RD Axel Sandin-Pellikka
03. RC Nate Danielson
04. RW Michael Brandsegg-Nygård
05. RW Dmitri Buchelnikov
06. GT Trey Augustine
07. LW Carter Mazur
08. RD William Wallinder
09. LC Amadeus Lombardi
10. LD Shai Buium
11. LC Max Plante
12. RW Jesse Kiiskinen
13. LD Brady Cleveland
14. RD Anton Johansson
15. LW Emmitt Finnie

 

[Frk It]

Best case: Middle 6 winger
Likely case: AHL/SHL top 6 winger

You could say that about a lot of the forwards in our pipeline.

I just think what he has accomplished since his draft year is being overlooked, not sure why. Probably because he was injured and missed time last year. But the Draft year production was great, being full time in the SHL this year is good (he would have been last year had he not been hurt), and he played for Sweden at both the U18s and Hlinka.

I find all of that encouraging and I think he has some good offensive tools. I think he easily deserves to be included in any type of top 15 list for this org.

Like Finnie was under a PPG in his +1 season last year in Juniors and we are putting him over NDN? Nah.

 

[raymond23]

1. Sandin-Pellika
Really believe this kid has the chance to take this team to the next level.

2. Cossa
Hasn't been lights out this year but just steadily good to great. Really good sign that even his off days aren't very bad anymore.

3. Buchelnikov
Can't help but give him a top three spot at this point. The clips I see of him are kind of unreal along with his production.

4. Danielson
Need a second half similar to Kasper's last season or he's in trouble of dropping more. Giving me Filppula vibes.

5. Augustine
Probably my favorite prospect in the system and a chance to be #1 real soon. So much fun to watch.

6. Brandsegg-Nygard
I see the vision with this kid. Hilariously strong and physical for his age in a pro league. Crazy good shot. Next year will be a lot more telling.

7. Finnie
This kid has the "it" factor. I'm hopeful that he's our Palat/Johnson/Gourde.

8. Kiiskinen
I don't know much about the Lliga but he's a teenager and one of the top scorers in the league. Not to mention an awesome WJC performance. Kid takes like 8 shots a game. Sleeper...

9. Buium
10. Mazur
11. Lombardi
12. Wallinder
13. Plante
14. James
15. Johansson
16. NDN
etc

 

[stillwater]

Valtteri Filppula Played 1000+ NHL games, averaging about .5 pts per game over his career. In his prime years, he could have been the league's best 3rd-line center. At 40, he still plays pro-hockey in Finland.

If that's all Danielson is, I'll take it. Give the kid a chance to grow.

The expectations on these young players is just so extreme, it's crazy. He's still just a kid. So is Kasper, so is Raymond ... though Raymond appears to be taking off into a galaxy that no one really saw coming.

 

[raymond23]

Valtteri Filppula Played 1000+ NHL games, averaging about .5 pts per game over his career. In his prime years, he could have been the league's best 3rd-line center. At 40, he still plays pro-hockey in Finland.

If that's all Danielson is, I'll take it. Give the kid a chance to grow.

The expectations on these young players is just so extreme, it's crazy. He's still just a kid. So is Kasper, so is Raymond ... though Raymond appears to be taking off into a galaxy that no one really saw coming.

I think we do a pretty great job as a group being patient on young players and being reasonable with expectations. A decade of being shit on will do that.

Danielson needs a Kasper-like second half to crack the top 3 for me. No shame in that, we have a loaded pool. He just hasn’t been that threatening in Grand Rapids outside of a couple stretches. I’m rooting for the kid

 

[RedHawkDown]

1.ASP
2.Cossa
3.Augustine
4. Buchelnikov
5. Kiiskinen
6. Danielson
7. MBN
8. Mazur
9. Plante
10. Finnie
11. Lombardi
12. Buium
13. Wallinder
14. James
15. NDN

Valtteri Filppula Played 1000+ NHL games, averaging about .5 pts per game over his career. In his prime years, he could have been the league's best 3rd-line center. At 40, he still plays pro-hockey in Finland.

If that's all Danielson is, I'll take it. Give the kid a chance to grow.

The expectations on these young players is just so extreme, it's crazy. He's still just a kid. So is Kasper, so is Raymond ... though Raymond appears to be taking off into a galaxy that no one really saw coming.

I think this is totally fair, but I really don't understand what people don't get about expectations. Danielson is a top-10 pick. That's why there are expectations. Dvorsky, taken 1 pick afterwards and an entire year younger than Danielson, has put up 11 more points in 4 less games in the AHL. This matters.

Every other team's young players are also "still kids". But if they do better than our young players, then those teams will pass us. Your top 10 pick players need to knock it out of the park, or your rebuild falls behind, and you dont develop into a contender. That's why we have expectations/hopes. If he was a 2nd or 3rd rounder nobody would say anything. No one's saying Danielson is a failure as a hockey player in a vacuum if he just ends up a 3rd line C, but it is absolutely a failure as a top 10 pick in terms of pushing us into contender status.

Is Ras a failure of an NHL player? No, but didn't do well for his draft position either. Was Zadina a bust? Yes. Let's say these two guys were Q. Hughes and M. Necas/G. Vilardi - we are MUCH further ahead today as a team.

22 pts in 44 AHL games is not great for a top 10 pick in his D+2; it's not terrible but it doesn't help us project him as an offensive difference-maker. That doesn't mean he is a failure or anything, but if he ends up a Rasmussen instead of a Vilardi, it will have significant repercussions for our rebuild, because top 10 picks are what the rebuild is based on. That matters, and I don't get why people keep acting like it doesn't.