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The Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat trade has still not been beat

Al Lagoon said:
Tyler Seguin - Loui Eriksson
Niewundyk - Iginla

Bad trades happen.
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These, Like OP, were trades for experience pkayers for runs sending off drafted prospects instead of future picks.

If you see pick values, there are much worse deaks.

Toronto acquiring kessel comes to mind

What does Ottawa have to show for the Stone to vegas trade
 
This trade does show how making a bad trade is no excuse for failure. You can make a trade this bad and still win the cup.

Also the best teams make the worst trades. If you are trying to win the cup, it means you are trading away young players and futures for a short term gain. It's inevitable that your team will have a bad move like this if you are a winner for long enough
 
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Erat didn't play on that cup winning roster so the whole "they won a cup" argument is pretty irrelevant when judging a trade.

Obviously winning that cup eases the frustration Caps fans felt toward that trade though.

It probably is one of the worst trades I can think of off the top of my head
 
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JoeSakic13 said:
That trade deserves an asterisk as it was a trade where Roy forced their hand to trade him out of the lineup.

Montreal was never going to win that trade, so the argument is was there better offers (in hindsight) on the table.
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Other tough thing with Roy was he was a year away from UFA status so there were limited teams who could afford his extension. Chicago didn't get a bounty for Ed Belfour under somewhat similar circumstances when they traded him a year+ after Roy was dealt.

From what I recall, Montreal had been shopping Roy for awhile and Avs GM (and former Roy agent) Pierre Lacroix had been kicking tires when they were still in Quebec. While the Roy/Red Wings game expedited things, I don't remember teams being shocked like they would have presented better offers.
 
JoeSakic13 said:
That trade deserves an asterisk as it was a trade where Roy forced their hand to trade him out of the lineup.

Montreal was never going to win that trade, so the argument is was there better offers (in hindsight) on the table.
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The trade was still due to horrible management by the Habs. Hiring Tremblay as coach when he and Roy already had a well-known strained relationship and letting that fester for months without doing anything before "the incident" was a huge failure. Rookie GM Rejean Houle was in over his head and did nothing to attempt to resolve the tensions between Tremblay and Roy -- neither before, nor after the incident. He just quickly traded Roy to make the problem go away.... and gave away the team captain (Keane) as part of the deal, too!

No matter how you want to look at it, it was still one of the most lopsided trades in NHL history. The trade had a huge impact on both Colorado and Montreal's future fortunes.
 
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Who goes higher in a Re-Draft, Filip Forsberg or Tom Wilson? It was a horrible trade but they selected Burakovsky and Vrana in the 1st round of the next 2 drafts and they contributed to a Cup Win.
 
This gets so overblown and it drives me crazy.

Martin Erat was a known quantity - a consistent ~20 goal, 50-60 point guy for a decade. Filip Forsberg was a very good prospect, but those don't always pan out. Even still, it took Forsberg 8 seasons to finally bust out and eclipse what Erat's average career numbers were - and here we are with his 11th season winding down, and Forsberg is a 70 point guy again.

This is a run-of-the-mill deadline deal that didn't work out amazingly for Washington. End of. Filip Forsberg is not a superstar, and this trade was not a travesty. Let it go people.
 
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Doesn't beat this one:

Toronto traded Parent's NHL rights back to the Flyers for Favell and a first-round pick in that summer's (1973) amateur draft.

Flyers win 2 cups and Parent was playoffs MVP both times.
 
AvsGuy said:
This gets so overblown and it drives me crazy.

Martin Erat was a known quantity - a consistent ~20 goal, 50-60 point guy for a decade. Filip Forsberg was a very good prospect, but those don't always pan out. Even still, it took Forsberg 8 seasons to finally bust out and eclipse what Erat's average career numbers were - and here we are with his 11th season winding down, and Forsberg is a 70 point guy again.

This is a run-of-the-mill deadline deal that didn't work out amazingly for Washington. End of. Filip Forsberg is not a superstar, and this trade was not a travesty. Let it go people.
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The reasoning doesn't matter, only the end result. The end result demonstrates what turned out to be EXTREMELY poor reasoning, and INCREDIBLY poor asset evaluation.

The end result? 62 GPs by Erat, 27 points, 3 goals.

For Nashville? 773 GPs by Forsberg, 673 points, 316 goals.

Not to mention Forsberg was almost a PPG in the year WSH won the cup.

At the end of the day, a premier player was traded for a washed-up has-been.
 
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Not even close to the most lopsided in NHL history.

•The Ken Dryden trade was worse.

•Eric Desjardins and John Leclaire for Mark Recchi was worse.

•Pacioretty for Suzuki+Tatar+2nd was worse.

And there are many more.
 
Unpopular opinion but this trade isn’t as “bad” as its reputation. Don’t get me wrong, it was one sided in the end but it’s not like Forsberg is racking up the Harts, Art Ross’s, and Conn Smythe’s and is a franchise changing player
 
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