The false opportunity cost of 11.6

[nowhereman]

Surely you dont honestly think this is something you can use as evidence. Just using this dishonest card becase it fits your agenda.

Yeah, sure, I'm the one with the agenda...

 

[Brookbank]

Isn’t this thread about the opportunity cost of $11.5m and saying what could you do with that money?

So asking if you would give up Petey + $2m for Marner kind of makes sense.



So your answer is no. You would just keep Pet

Marner is one of the only players that is around Petterson's level that is theoretically available. His rights would probably be traded for things that we don't want to give up. And would cost 13-14 in cap. He's also 27 and a right winger.

Rantenen is 28, is also a right winger and would cost 13-14+.

Are these the situations you are dying to get Pettersons 11.6 off the books for ? At least they are high ceiling moves and are still better than a glorified Miller trade.

But I think the point stands. Petterson is already here , is a centre , is 11.6 and not 13+ and just turned 26. That 11.6 is best to stay right where it is.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Yeah, sure, I'm the one with the agenda...

Ok.

Hronek said at last years presser he played healthy.

 

[604]

Marner is one of the only players that is around Petterson's level that is theoretically available. His rights would probably be traded for things that we don't want to give up. And would cost 13-14 in cap. He's also 27 and a right winger.

Rantenen is 28, is also a right winger and would cost 13-14+.

Are these the situations you are dying to get Pettersons 11.6 off the books for ? At least they are high ceiling moves and are still better than a glorified Miller trade.

But I think the point stands. Petterson is already here , is a centre , is 11.6 and not 13+ and just turned 26. That 11.6 is best to stay right where it is.

Watching Pettersson try to get the zone on the PP with 12:50 left in a tie game is embarrassing.

He stops to avoid getting hit, and dumps it in only to not chase so SJS exit and go on a 2 on 2 against.

They give up on the 1st unit, bring Suter and Joshua on. Suter carries into the zone sets it up and Joshua drives the net and scores.

There are many players who are greatly outperforming Pettersson right now for less than a quarter of his cap hit…

A few more weeks of this and Petey will be viewed in a similar light to Patrick Laine.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

It's not just about the cap hit. Can't put a price on accountability.

Got to let it be known, that players that get the bag and mail it in, aren't welcome here and will be shipped to Buffalo.

 

[Leif Rohlin]

He needs a Bruce Boudreau speech.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Watching Pettersson try to get the zone on the PP with 12:50 left in a tie game is embarrassing.

He stops to avoid getting hit, and dumps it in only to not chase so SJS exit and go on a 2 on 2 against.

They give up on the 1st unit, bring Suter and Joshua on. Suter carries into the zone sets it up and Joshua drives the net and scores.

There are many players who are greatly outperforming Pettersson right now for less than a quarter of his cap hit…

A few more weeks of this and Petey will be viewed in a similar light to Patrick Laine.

A mentally troubled powerplay specialist!?!

You are giving EP way too much credit here. Apologist.

I would say a better comparison is my grandmother who just moved in to a rest home. A kind but frail thing whose memory is no longer what it used to be.

 

[Coffee]

Agree with PuckMunchkin here , not concerned how this season plays out for him as much as I am concerned with next season

Players have bad stretches some have bad years

What we’ve seen from him is the same magic we see consistently with Hughes, it’s easy to forget that but we have seen it

 

[604]

A mentally troubled powerplay specialist!?!

You are giving EP way too much credit here. Apologist.

I would say a better comparison is my grandmother who just moved in to a rest home. A kind but frail thing whose memory is no longer what it used to be.

Where is the opposition net?

What did I just do with the puck?!?

I really wonder what happened to the Pettersson we saw before he signed the contract. How long can he play like this before he becomes comparable to PL Dubois (last year) or Patrick Laine (last 3 years)?

He had a game where he got 7 shots, against StL, and I figured he was starting to come around but he's taken a giant step back again. 1 shot or less in four of the last five games, despite being a trigger guy on PP1 is just baffling. The team is dragging him right now and he looked like he was killing his own line tonight, why does he dump (and stare) when he used to be amazing at making guys miss and carrying into the zone.

 

[Bobby9]

Its a totally sunk cost right now.

12M in dead CAP

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Eventually yes he will.

He hasn’t changed his “fundamental” skating technique but it’s almost as if he’s taking power skating lessons for the first time in his life.

He’s working extremely hard at distributing that “power” through both legs and not his dominant left (the broken one) leg but unfortunately he’s lost his first step and top end speed because of it.

This will take time and probably won’t return this season because you can’t build body strength during a ongoing NHL season and can only do it during the summer.

As his lower body strength improves, he will become stronger on his skates, the speed will improve and the old EP40 should return.

If he can only do it during the summer the obvious solution is to put him on LTIR and start his 'summer' right now. It's not doing him or the team any good running him out there like everything's normal if he's playing hurt.

If he has a permanently disabling injury, and this is just who he is now, they should trade him tomorrow. Should've already traded him. I'm not sure if you can trade a player with a permanent disability without disclosing it to the other team though??

 

[Brookbank]

Watching Pettersson try to get the zone on the PP with 12:50 left in a tie game is embarrassing.

He stops to avoid getting hit, and dumps it in only to not chase so SJS exit and go on a 2 on 2 against.

They give up on the 1st unit, bring Suter and Joshua on. Suter carries into the zone sets it up and Joshua drives the net and scores.

There are many players who are greatly outperforming Pettersson right now for less than a quarter of his cap hit…

A few more weeks of this and Petey will be viewed in a similar light to Patrick Laine.

Interesting how you brought up Laine. He has been injured and had personal issues. His talent never went away

Even Pierre Luc Dubois. The Kings traded him at rock bottom. His talent never went away either.

And Petterson is at a whole other level better than either of these guys. But this time , the talent went away ?

 

[Brookbank]

Its a totally sunk cost right now.

12M in dead CAP

And what are you going to do with the cap space ? Sign Mackinnon ?

 

[AzNightmare]

Interesting how you brought up Laine. He has been injured and had personal issues. His talent never went away

Even Pierre Luc Dubois. The Kings traded him at rock bottom. His talent never went away either.

And Petterson is at a whole other level better than either of these guys. But this time , the talent went away ?

lol, NHL's version of Space Jam.

Agree with PuckMunchkin here , not concerned how this season plays out for him as much as I am concerned with next season

Players have bad stretches some have bad years

What we’ve seen from him is the same magic we see consistently with Hughes, it’s easy to forget that but we have seen it

If we do keep EP40, it's my expectation to already assume he'll show up 4 out of the 8 seasons he's signed on for. He's also been consistently inconsistent throughout his career, it's not just this 1 season. With massive 1st to 4th liner swings. Let's just hope when Canucks are ready to make that big push, it'll be on one of those 4 years he's not slumping.

 

[Bobby9]

And what are you going to do with the cap space ? Sign Mackinnon ?

2 x 6 M dollar players would be better right now.

 

[Brookbank]

lol, NHL's version of Space Jam.



If we do keep EP40, it's my expectation to already assume he'll show up 4 out of the 8 seasons he's signed on for. He's also been consistently inconsistent throughout his career, it's not just this 1 season. With massive 1st to 4th liner swings. Let's just hope when Canucks are ready to make that big push, it'll be on one of those 4 years he's not slumping.

He's been PPG for all but 2021. So your ratio is off