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GMR said:
FYI, Barnaby was a headcase. I'd rather have Ray than Barnaby on my team.
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Then we have nothing left to talk about because we are at polatizing ends.

One drew penalties and had many excellent pest shifts; whereas, the other only jumped the bench and dropped gloves.

Barnaby was an alternate captain. Ray never was (laughable to think about).

Race to the bottom of the barrel in Buffalo: Ray clearly wins.
 
Guys like Ray and Sheehy don't belong in this discussion. Ray scored 52 points in the OHL and Sheehy was over 0.5 points/game as an NCAA defender (who didn't even fight at the time).

Came here to post Joel Rechlicz but someone beat me to it. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that there are beer-league players posting on this board who are better at actually playing hockey. Stu Grimson scored 52 points in a full CHL season. Rechlicz scored 1.

Amongst players who spent multiple years in the NHL, Jay Caufield was the most embarrassingly terrible player I can remember watching.
 
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Dirt 101 said:
Then we have nothing left to talk about because we are at polatizing ends.

One drew penalties and had many excellent pest shifts; whereas, the other only jumped the bench and dropped gloves.

Barnaby was an alternate captain. Ray never was (laughable to think about).

Race to the bottom of the barrel in Buffalo: Ray clearly wins.
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Rob Ray was an alternate captain. Not sure if you're trolling or really didn't know that.
 
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MS said:
Guys like Ray and Sheehy don't belong in this discussion. Ray scored 52 points in the OHL and Sheehy was over 0.5 points/game as an NCAA defender (who didn't even fight at the time).

Came here to post Joel Rechlicz but someone beat me to it. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that there are beer-league players posting on this board who are better at actually playing hockey. Stu Grimson scored 52 points in a full CHL season. Rechlicz scored 1.

Amongst players who spent multiple years in the NHL, Jay Caufield was the most embarrassingly terrible player I can remember watching.
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Rechlicz only played 26 games in the NHL. I was trying to think of someone with a significant NHL career. There's probably tons of enforcers like Rechlicz who had a limited amount of NHL games.
 
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GMR said:
Rechlicz only played 26 games in the NHL. I was trying to think of someone with a significant NHL career. There's probably tons of enforcers like Rechlicz who had a limited amount of NHL games.
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Rechlicz is in a class by himself in terms of lacking any sort of background or pedigree or success of any sort at any lower level.

Caufield was my choice for the worst player to have a career of note where he was on an NHL roster for a few years.

Steve MacIntyre isn't quite at Rechlicz's level but did spent a couple full seasons on NHL rosters.
 
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Dirt 101 said:
Then we have nothing left to talk about because we are at polatizing ends.

One drew penalties and had many excellent pest shifts; whereas, the other only jumped the bench and dropped gloves.

Barnaby was an alternate captain. Ray never was (laughable to think about).

Race to the bottom of the barrel in Buffalo: Ray clearly wins.
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What are you talking about?

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You're right about one thing though. Any team in the league would rather have Barnaby than Ray. People who says differently just hates Barnaby.
 
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Rob Ray played 14 seasons in Buffalo.
I forgot he had been an alternate as a veteran.
 
Rob Ray being an alternate captain in Buffalo reminds me of the fact that Shane Churla was captain for Dallas when the whole "mother of all elbows" thing went down in the 94 playoffs.

Tinordi I think had been the captain in the 1993–94 regular season (plus the two seasons prior in Minnesota) but for some reason (injury?) he didn't play in the playoffs so it went to Churla instead.

Strikes me as somewhat of a Gainey move to give the captaincy to a guy with 13 points and 333 PIMs in the regular season.
 
JackSlater said:
Jeremy Yablonski played one NHL game, scored 0 points, got into a fight and was a -1. Also played 283 AHL games and attained 26 points. 14 points in 107 ECHL games. 0 points in 24 KHL games. 6 points in 113 games in the WCHL, a league that eventually folded into the ECHL. 5 points in 74 WHL games. Not so impressive for a winger, but it just might have helped that he was a successful amateur boxer and measured at around 6' 240.
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Yablonski is the name I thought of as well. Total disgrace.
 
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I'm sure someone else can conduct the statistical analysis, but when anyone asks me the worst players I've ever seen play for the Flames I answer these three: Sami Helenius, Sasha Lakovic and Rocky Thompson.

Now Helenius wasn't a goon per se, just big (6'5"ish). Lakovic and Thompson though were goons through and through. Rocky Thompson played 25 games in the NHL over parts of four seasons, and averaged ~4.6 PIM per game. Lakovic had a much more modest 3.2 PIM per game (118 in 37 GP), but was higher in the AHL (714 PIM/163 GP). Neither ever scored a goal; Lakovic had four assists, Thompson none.
 
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My first though was John Kordic, but people insist that he had talent, he just loved fighting.
 
Pierre -Luc Letourneau-Leblond came to mind immediately I remember 1 season he got into 2 games and had like 20 PIM
 
I know it's not good to speak ill of the dead, but Derek Boogaard. He wasn't good in junior - three goals in 3+seasons. And then he wasn't good in the NHL. At least some of the guys mentioned on this thread contributed offensively before going pro, but Boogaard was always pretty weak.

I mean, I'll give him credit for working on his skating. When he arrived in Prince George he looked like he was skating on ball bearings. But it was pretty clear he was never around to put the biscuit in the basket.
 
Dirt 101 said:
F that.

Barnaby 18 TIMES had more goals or assists than Ray.

Barnaby was a legit NHL starter.

Rob Ray was NOTHING more than a goon.

You insult Barnaby by inserting him in THIS discussion.
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Easy, slugger. I was just pointing out that they were both considered enforcers on the same team at the same time.
 
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Dirt 101 said:
Then we have nothing left to talk about because we are at polatizing ends.

One drew penalties and had many excellent pest shifts; whereas, the other only jumped the bench and dropped gloves.

Barnaby was an alternate captain. Ray never was (laughable to think about).

Race to the bottom of the barrel in Buffalo: Ray clearly wins.
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Rob Ray absolutely was an alternate captain. Did Ray do something to you personally?
 
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