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Player Discussion: The Don Waddell Era

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This is why, much like prospects, it's a fools game to try and grade a GM after a year or two. It takes a few drafts before a GMs vision is felt fully.
This is why the Browns haven't had any success under the Halsam's. He's too quick replacing GMs. Over 14 years the Browns have had 6 GMs. When you only have 2.5 years to complete a vision it starts to overlap with some other's visions of another version of the team. Y

ou can argue that this team is still alot of Jarmo's vision still today because of the short king prospect pool Waddell hasn't graduated many players out of Cleveland yet because they are not strong enough to his liking.
 
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Or should have Don made someone trade him shit by torture or something?
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This is why the Browns haven't had any success under the Halsam's. He's too quick replacing GMs. Over 14 years the Browns have had 6 GMs. When you only have 2.5 years to complete a vision it starts to overlap with some other's visions of another version of the team. Y

ou can argue that this team is still alot of Jarmo's vision still today because of the short king prospect pool Waddell hasn't graduated many players out of Cleveland yet because they are not strong enough to his liking.

The delay is much more extreme in the NHL than in the NFL where a GM really can remake a team with a couple drafts. Picks from the middle rounds can make a difference right away. In the NHL you're probably waiting five to seven years.

We're not just waiting on Waddell's picks to see how they turn out, we don't even know yet how plenty of Jarmo's picks are going to turn out! Ceulemans for instance was drafted five years ago and Jarmo had two drafts after that one. I remember when we had debates here about Howson's drafting and people tried to close the book on it before Josh Anderson and David Savard even became full time players.
 
The delay is much more extreme in the NHL than in the NFL where a GM really can remake a team with a couple drafts. Picks from the middle rounds can make a difference right away. In the NHL you're probably waiting five to seven years.

We're not just waiting on Waddell's picks to see how they turn out, we don't even know yet how plenty of Jarmo's picks are going to turn out! Ceulemans for instance was drafted five years ago and Jarmo had two drafts after that one. I remember when we had debates here about Howson's drafting and people tried to close the book on it before Josh Anderson and David Savard even became full time players.
There are several out there that think you shouldn't judge a player until 5 years post draft. While not true for all, obviously, we are seeing it with late 1sts and later round picks. I guess I'm hopeful that the same is true for Lindstrom, but to a much higher success rate given his draft spot. Next year is a really big year for him skill wise. This year he showed he was healthy and can play physical without getting hurt. Next year the skill needs to show significant improvement for this to move on the right track. Ceulemans is a great example. I loved that pick, but it has taken time given how raw he was. Had the tools, needed to build a toolbox. Maybe that's actually happening for him. Could be a NHL player afterall.
 
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This is an article today about the Hurricanes building their cup team.

That brings us to Don Waddell. He was GM of the Carolina Hurricanes from May 2018 to May 2024 and with the team for 10 years overall, first joining as president on the business side. The Hurricanes are not here at the 2026 Stanley Cup Final without the work Waddell did in those years, both on the hockey side and on the business side.


“Don did amazing work here,” Canes GM Eric Tulsky told The Athletic over the weekend. “I think he was the only GM in the league who also ran the business side of the organization. During his tenure, obviously, we started to have more success on the ice, but not everyone realizes how much improvement there was in the fan experience and business performance.”

The Hurricanes missed the playoffs nine years in a row before Waddell was named GM. They’ve made it to the postseason every year since.

“He helped the winning, and winning is the business,” owner Tom Dundon told The Athletic over the weekend.

Two years after his exit from Carolina to become GM and president of hockey operations in Columbus, Waddell absolutely has a tinge of pride to see his old team get to the final.

“Yes, 100 percent,” Waddell told The Athletic over the weekend. “We got to the conference finals twice when I was there, and we just couldn’t get over the hump. For them to reach the final now, Roddy (Brind’Amour) and his coaching staff have done a great job, and they’re being rewarded for it. It’s great for the fans. Those fans have shown up every night for a lot of years. It took us a while to build it up, but once we got it going, the fans jumped on board and stuck with it. They deserve it.”

When Waddell was first hired as president on the business side in May of 2014, there was a lot of work to be done. And that work is an equally big part of his legacy.


“We went through some growing pains there,” Waddell said. “When I went there, they had about 5,000 season tickets. Before we started making the playoffs, we were close to 8,000 season tickets, and once you start playing in the playoffs, it jumps up.”

It’s been sold out for years now in these parts.

On the arena side, Waddell oversaw renovations that took two and a half years and also chased down arena naming rights. It was grueling work.

“We were working on Lenovo for five years to get them to come up for the naming rights,” Waddell said. “There’s a lot of stuff that happened there that I’m very proud of.”

In retrospect, his decision to leave when his contract was expiring two years ago was good timing for everyone involved. Waddell needed a new challenge after a decade in Carolina.


“It was a time in my life where I was thinking about slowing down a little bit maybe, but within days of leaving (Carolina), Columbus called and offered me the job,” Waddell said. “I told my wife at the trade deadline that year, ‘It’s probably time for me to resign here and see what else is out there.'”

He also knew Tulsky, then an AGM, was ready to be a GM, and other teams had started calling, wanting to interview him.

“Yes, he had already had a couple of interviews,” Waddell said. “Eric is the smartest guy I’ve ever worked with. I would always tell him with the analytics he did for us, to dumb it down for me (laughs). But Eric deserves it. It was good timing for him, too. I’m happy for him.”
 
This is an article today about the Hurricanes building their cup team.


I think all things considered, Don has done a fantastic job here . When I got a chance to talk with Don for over an hour , he talked about Leaving Carolina , and the owner was calling him that weekend trying to get him to change his mind and not leave . Sounded like Dundon wanted his nose in everything and Don had enough.. He also said he had 2 interviews lined up , Columbus and I believe he said Chicago , but not positive. Anyway , Columbus basically lured him away by also allowing him autonomy on the business side . I’m on record , not loving the Lindstrom pick , but Don is doing so many great things here .. including keeping players in the minors until they are more than ready . That will make a world of difference in developing players. He’s replaced strength staff once he identified the issue , he was bold to replace Evason and basically the whole staff , and Dean definitely deserved it , refusing to go in and talk to his team as he was losing the room those last 8 games .
 
Does Carolina winning the cup give you more or less confidence in his ability to build us into a winner? Or no impact at all?
 
Does Carolina winning the cup give you more or less confidence in his ability to build us into a winner? Or no impact at all?
Great question.

DW was a long time part of the long term equation that culminated in the SC win last night so I think it goes without saying that it would instill more confidence.

Carolina is a team that is built around depth and system from my vantage point. Given the CBJs lack of ability to attract marquee players, it's likely that this is the model that any Columbus GM would have to follow until long term success had been achieved so that's why my confidence is higher.

He also did it without any cap issues which is a huge plus.

If you are reading this, DW then I expect two Lexus Lounge tickets to either a Vegas or Edmonton game next season. Message me for contact details.
 
Does Carolina winning the cup give you more or less confidence in his ability to build us into a winner? Or no impact at all?
More. Since he’s taken over we’re fine from 67 to 92 points and playing meaningful hockey to the end - on top of a horrendous tragedy.

Everyone wants to say “but Tulsky built that team” and Tulsky himself says Waddell was crucial to what they have.

Tulsky also got a bit lucky - the Rantanen trade ended up working out for him, but I don’t think anyone saw Stankoven and Hall and that line dominating as much as they did here.
 
I mean its great for Waddell knowing he helped lay the foundation of an eventual winner. However it doesnt really sway me one way or the other here. Hes got such a different foundation to work with that has its own set of challenges to work through. He has some good pieces to work with though so hes gotta do what Jarmo couldn't and build a rounded team and not just collect talent.
 
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More. Since he’s taken over we’re fine from 67 to 92 points and playing meaningful hockey to the end - on top of a horrendous tragedy.

Everyone wants to say “but Tulsky built that team” and Tulsky himself says Waddell was crucial to what they have.

Tulsky also got a bit lucky - the Rantanen trade ended up working out for him, but I don’t think anyone saw Stankoven and Hall and that line dominating as much as they did here.
Any team/GM has to be lucky to some degree to get to this point. Carolina has had some good luck moments through the years that has help shaped that team. You dont often find your 1C in the 2nd round or the top defensive defensemen in the game in the 4th round.

Tulsky has been bold and rewarded for it, hes also been able to pivot to a plan B when people are ready to punk him for plan A failing
 
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Any team/GM has to be lucky to some degree to get to this point. Carolina has had some good luck moments through the years that has help shaped that team. You dont often find your 1C in the 2nd round or the top defensive defensemen in the game in the 4th round.

Tulsky has been bold and rewarded for it, hes also been able to pivot to a plan B when people are ready to punk him for plan A failing
7th team is the charm for Hall
 

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