Both Damien Cox and Steve Simmons have said that Carlyle won't be fired.
The latest from TSN guys is that Nonis and Shanahan still had to meet to discuss the coaching staff.
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Both Damien Cox and Steve Simmons have said that Carlyle won't be fired.
The latest from TSN guys is that Nonis and Shanahan still had to meet to discuss the coaching staff.
Continue Here.
It has been said before, but firing the coach sends the message to the players that this was not their fault, which is not something that this group needs to hear. The core needs to be shaken up, not entrenched.
It's hard to not blame the coach when you can barley name a positive thing he did this season. The players deserve a **** ton of blame, but seriously, RC was awful this season. Everything from his roster decisions (both years), his treatment of players, his system and his ability to adjust (or severe lack of it) this year were awful. His micromanagement style is over-done and seriously, the proof is in the pudding. Look at the Ducks, how they look like a new team with the exact same roster, only thing that changed is the over the hill coach (and I guess Bobby Ryan's departure).
This guy needs to go, seriously, what does management do if the team struggles right off the bat? All of the coaching options will be exhausted and we'll be further in no-mans land.
Firing the coach and bringing back the same core that dived off the cliff under two coach's does send the wrong message.
I'd fire entire coaching staff and trade our captain as well as Lupul , this would send a message that everyone's accountable .
So instead we send a message to the coaching staff that they did a wonderful job? Certainly the core needs to be shaken up, but if we come back with the same coaching staff I'm getting my early seat for the tank.It has been said before, but firing the coach sends the message to the players that this was not their fault, which is not something that this group needs to hear. The core needs to be shaken up, not entrenched.
It has been said before, but firing the coach sends the message to the players that this was not their fault, which is not something that this group needs to hear. The core needs to be shaken up, not entrenched.
So instead we send a message to the coaching staff that they did a wonderful job? Certainly the core needs to be shaken up, but if we come back with the same coaching staff I'm getting my early seat for the tank.
This horrible news. Personally I think Shanahan Should Fire everyone. What is with the this bull**** fail each year, and then each person can say 'I didn't get to do it with my guy' So they fire one more. This whole management team has been around for all this **** and are a main part of this crap culture.
The coach is demonstrably horrible, if you seriously want to watch another year of collapse and leave the points open so the other team can shoot it all day long, then when we finally get it, dump it in so the other team can get it back again. These are coaching strategies. This is how Carlyle thinks the NHL game is played these days. Please find me one other successful 'collapse and dump' team in the NHL.
The players are at fault as well, they shouldn't be let off. Phaneuf should be traded, I think he's a better player than many give him credit for, but it's time for him to go. I don't think he's captain material and honestly, this team shouldn't have a captain right now, cause no one deserves it. There are other players that you could make an argument for changing as well.
And for the love of god, if Nonis trades Gardiner, or any of our other young skilled players for 'Carlyle' type players. I'm gonna lose it.
'Carlyle' type players SUCK. and Carlyle's teams have sucked. Seriously, he won a cup with 3 first-ballot HOF's on his team, a goalie having an incredible year. ever since that, his teams have been garbage and get instantly better once he leaves. Players he drives out of town get better once they leave. This 'Appeal to Authority' BS is annoying. I'll take the last 6 years of evidence that he has no idea what he's doing, over 1 year, 7 years ago.
End of rant.
the message is to be sent to kessel and the other long term guys is that this collapse was squarely on them .....if u dont want to forecheck ,give your list of teams u wanna be traded to...even if mike babcock came here,hed want kessel to do more ,hed push him ,it really wasnt all coaching ,our best guys , our core group failed to execute or show any desire .....u tellin me that you tube video of kessel laughing at phaneuf for not scoring in that key game in detroit was a focussed player? in junior hed have got punched out ,
i hope randy stays ,because the core stinks here and shanny knows it ,i think the harder part for shanny is firing nonis ,he signed long term deals ,to players he saw for years ,he should know what he had in phaneuf and kessel and lupul .
id trade kessel before phaneuf ......florida loves kessel ......
If it happens, I'll be very interested in hearing the spin they put on deciding to keep him
I personally don't know how you justify it. At all
id trade kessel before phaneuf ......florida loves kessel ......