Speculation: The coaching search continues

[Cosmix]

He’s like any NHL coach, give him a hot goalie and he wins the Cup. Give him a regular goalie and he gets fired.

Somewhat true. Better players (goaltenders, defencemen, & forwards) make better coaches.

The old saying "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear" is true.

I also believe that a poor coach can make a team worse than the players it has on its roster.

I also believe that an owner who funds his team with a low cap floor budget is probably going to have a team that is in the bottom half of the league.

I also believe that a GM that is experienced and has been successful previously probably can build a better roster of players than an inexperienced and previously unsuccessful GM.

 

[OttawaSenators11]

Vegas odds for Sens next coach:

Gruden +105
Berube + 175
Evason +600

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[Micklebot]

Vegas odds for Sens next coach:

Gruden +105
Berube + 175
Evason +600

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So... That implied probability for Berube makes me think easy money...

Candidate	Odds	Implied probability
John Gruden	+105	48.78%
Craig Berube	+175	376.36%
Dean Evason	+650	13.33%
Jay Woodcroft	+1000	9.09%
Gerard Gallant	+1500	6.25%
Todd McLellan	+2400	4.00%
Claude Julien	+5500	1.79%
Chris Kelly	+6000	1.64%

 

[BondraTime]

So... That implied probability for Berube makes me think easy money...

Candidate	Odds	Implied probability
John Gruden	+105	48.78%
Craig Berube	+175	376.36%
Dean Evason	+650	13.33%
Jay Woodcroft	+1000	9.09%
Gerard Gallant	+1500	6.25%
Todd McLellan	+2400	4.00%
Claude Julien	+5500	1.79%
Chris Kelly	+6000	1.64%

Yeah hammer the 376% with everything you own

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Another coaching vacancy opens up with Seattle. We should probably be making that hire soon.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Another coaching vacancy opens up with Seattle. We should probably be making that hire soon.

Coop or Brind’amour could come available, so ya definitely a gamble, not sure which is the best strategy.

 

[HSF]

Coop or Brind’amour could come available, so ya definitely a gamble, not sure which is the best strategy.

If Berube wants to come and he is the guy you want I move on that now

Cooper and/or Brindamour probably would want to go to Toronto before here and there is a good chance Keefe is gone

 

[Senscore]

If Berube wants to come and he is the guy you want I move on that now

Cooper and/or Brindamour probably would want to go to Toronto before here and there is a good chance Keefe is gone

Neither Cooper nor Brind'Amour are getting fired.

Their biggest sin seems to be getting beaten by Florida which is hardly their fault. Cooper has more than earned himself some good will to last through a down season.

 

[HSF]

Neither Cooper nor Brind'Amour are getting fired.

Their biggest sin seems to be getting beaten by Florida which is hardly their fault. Cooper has more than earned himself some good will to last through a down season.

Brindamour doesn't have a contract so he doesn't need to be fired

Cooper ya I agree he isn't going anywhere

Sullivan either imo

Also if one of those guys become avaliable I wouldn't be surprised to see a playoff team fire their coach to grab them

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Coop or Brind’amour could come available, so ya definitely a gamble, not sure which is the best strategy.

I’ll eat a hat if either become available.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I’ll eat a hat if either become available.

Brind’amour needs a contract, and Carolina aren’t big spenders.
Hope your hungry if one becomes available, but would be lots of suitors.

 

[Larionov]

I’ll eat a hat if either become available.

And I'll join you. Brind'amour is a bit of a different cat, as is his owner, but the fact is that he loves it in Carolina, and his owner loves him. Brind'amour insists on having his assistants looked after first, which is the opposite of how most coaches do it, and he has the security of knowing that his owner definitely wants him back. They'll announce a deal fairly quickly after the season ends, and the galling part will be that Brind'amour will end up taking a bit of a discount relative to the other top coaches around the league.

Cooper is regarded as one of the best coaches in the game. If Tampa is ever dumb enough to fire him there would be ten teams ready to hire him in an instant. He would have to miss the playoffs for three seasons straight before he would be in any trouble...

 

[Micklebot]

I’ll eat a hat if either become available.

Maybe had either TbL or Car gotten swept there was a chance, but it's getting less and less likely.

 

[Micklebot]

Hakstol fired.

 

[StoicSensFan]

I’ll eat a hat if either become available.

What kind of hat?

 

[Micklebot]

What kind of hat?

hopefully a stetson

 

[bert]

Coop or Brind’amour could come available, so ya definitely a gamble, not sure which is the best strategy.

I dont see any scenario where this is the case. What makes you believe that? Do you think they change Brindamour if they lose to the Rangers? Or coop if they lose to Florida? I dont see it.

I wonder if Berube already said no thats why the sens dont have a coach yet.

 

[Loach]

I dont see any scenario where this is the case. What makes you believe that? Do you think they change Brindamour if they lose to the Rangers? Or coop if they lose to Florida? I dont see it.

I wonder if Berube already said no thats why the sens dont have a coach yet.

What if Berube wanted to wait and see what other jobs there were? He did his interview with the Sens and the job was his but he wanted to wait. As the Sens, would you move on to the next guy or risk waiting on Berube and maybe missing out on him and other people? Does this sort of thing even happen?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Claude Julien: Forever a fraternity | Montréal Canadiens

When Claude Julien returned to the Canadiens' helm, the connections he had made with his counterparts in Boston had turned him into a more seasoned and complete coach than the one who departed Montreal in 2006

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I don't see why this guy doesn't get more love.... Teaching Coaching Experience Winner

 

[LudwigVonKarlsson]

Penguins fans have expectations that aren't aligned with reality after so many years of having generational players at their peak; they don't understand that 37 Malkin, 36 year old Crosby and 36 yr old Letang can't carry a team anymore and blame the coach. They just don't have a great roster anymore and have been spoiled from being good for almost all of Crosby's career on the back of him turning plugs into legit top 6 line options.

Whether Pens fans complain about him or not, it has very little bearing on whether he's a good coach or not, they'd be complaining if they had Scotty Bowman with Al Arbour as an assistant.

For the last time, I am not talking about tomorrow, today, or yesterday. I am talking about several seasons when these guys were in their early 30s and competing for cups. Sullivan is not a good coach, he got lucky by being hired at the right time, just like Bylsma. The penguins won thanks to the efforts of Crosby, and not because Sully

Like I posted earlier....Marlies season is over.... nothing to stop the rookie gm from bringing in his buddy.



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Berube was already fired, by the Blues....has never coached in Pittsburgh?

My comment was regarding Sullivan that fans in Pittsburgh wanted him gone for the last 5 seasons. The quote is not showing the quote that I responded to.

 

[redbrick98]

Claude Julien: Forever a fraternity | Montréal Canadiens

When Claude Julien returned to the Canadiens' helm, the connections he had made with his counterparts in Boston had turned him into a more seasoned and complete coach than the one who departed Montreal in 2006

www.nhl.com

I don't see why this guy doesn't get more love.... Teaching Coaching Experience Winner

Hasn't coached in a few seasons

Teams may hesitate as he's been out of the game for a bit

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Hasn't coached in a few seasons

Teams may hesitate as he's been out of the game for a bit

Pretty sure he remembers how

 

[Micklebot]

For the last time, I am not talking about tomorrow, today, or yesterday. I am talking about several seasons when these guys were in their early 30s and competing for cups. Sullivan is not a good coach, he got lucky by being hired at the right time, just like Bylsma. The penguins won thanks to the efforts of Crosby, and not because Sully


My comment was regarding Sullivan that fans in Pittsburgh wanted him gone for the last 5 seasons. The quote is not showing the quote that I responded to.

And for the last time, pens fans are not a reliable narrator, that team has been plagued with depth issues for ages because of how much they've had to spend on their top guys, so this year lat your or 5 years ago, it doesn't really matter, the roster has always had issues and they always been unwilling to recognize that so they blame the coach.

 

[bert]

Pretty sure he remembers how

I heard he doesnt want to do it anymore.