Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

[GCK]

6M x 2

 

[TK 421]

is this post a joke or is your brain actually that smooth?

I'm getting an "easily offended" skibbity toilet kind of feeling from you here which immediately brings to mind that once a while, MartyOwns is MartyOwnsHimself.

 

[Hookslide]

Why shouldnt they? They are THE product. Without them there is no league or money.

That is true, but call me naive or stupid but I have always put hockey players in a different light.

I feel like he's going to sign prior to Game 1 and all this hand wringing will have been for nothing

You might have had the odds in your favor a month ago, but I think those odds have changed drastically since.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841831916317675607

Get that bag Sway!

I would never pay a goalie with rabbit ears this bad. Bruins will be happy to get something for him instead of wasting $60 million on an oversensitive goalie.

 

[theMajor]

I can understand Swaymans frustration. Imagine if you work with a co-worker and split your duty 50/50. After some time your co-worker moves on to another job and managment tells you "now you have to be THE guy that get things done". You feel like you can do it but you want a raise for the increased workload and they tell you that you haven't shown that you can actually do it.

this is disingenuous at best. he's getting a raise either way, the only question is to what degree. he wants a 157% increase which is insane. yes he is good but is he shesterkin or hellebuyk good?? i dont think so. he's being a big ol baby IMO

 

[centipede2233]

is this post a joke or is your brain actually that smooth?

Point made lol

 

[Rockomax]

Delete

 

[Figgy44]

Not the best analogy. Imagine if you had a coworker who did just as good as you (if not better) but was older, who was fired to give you a promotion. You havent proven you can perform with that new title/responsibilities, you're getting a raise anyways. Because you are a high potential employee. Now you think you have leverage and going on a personal strike to squeeze out as much money as possible despite company budget. While not getting any offers from other companies.

Also not a good analogy. In those situations, you aren't negotiating a salary that will be frozen for up to 8 years and guaranteed whether or not you perform. Most salaries are based on what you'd accomplished up to that point and re-evaluated on a yearly basis. Also, Swayman can't seek offers from other companies. It'd be akin to violating a non-compete clause, that's technically also currently built into the situation.

Hockey contracts are a bizarre situation. You rarely have situations where someone is compensated for the future based projections of their performance. Even long term incentive compensations aren't truly based on projections of performance from what you'd accomplished up to that point, but the duration you stay at the company at the minimum level required.

It's honestly more akin to someone going, "I don't feel loved, so give me more money to make up for it instead." Honestly, I think he's not wrong in doing so. But due to the length of any contract he signs, the value involved here could be quite significant and downright silly, so I can also see why Boston is saying no. A compromise could be a "bridge like deal", but that introduces reasons for both sides to have unnecessary risk, so I again could see why either sides say no to that. The struggle here is that the agreement basically has to be unanimous, or it's a stale mate.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Also not a good analogy. In those situations, you aren't negotiating a salary that will be frozen for up to 8 years and guaranteed whether or not you perform. Most salaries are based on what you'd accomplished up to that point and re-evaluated on a yearly basis. Also, Swayman can't seek offers from other companies. It'd be akin to violating a non-compete clause, that's technically also currently built into the situation.

Hockey contracts are a bizarre situation. You rarely have situations where someone is compensated for the future based projections of their performance. Even long term incentive compensations aren't truly based on projections of performance from what you'd accomplished up to that point, but the duration you stay at the company at the minimum level required.

It's honestly more akin to someone going, "I don't feel loved, so give me more money to make up for it instead." Honestly, I think he's not wrong in doing so. But due to the length of any contract he signs, the value involved here could be quite significant and downright silly, so I can also see why Boston is saying no. A compromise could be a "bridge like deal", but that introduces reasons for both sides to have unnecessary risk, so I again could see why either sides say no to that. The struggle here is that the agreement basically has to be unanimous, or it's a stale mate.

"i dont feel love so overpay me" is not something I empathize with. Very toxic when you have so many teammates that count on your performance and also gets underpaid if you are overpaid.

 

[Figgy44]

"i dont feel love so overpay me" is not something I empathize with. Very toxic when you have so many teammates that count on your performance and also gets underpaid if you are overpaid.

Fair enough, but the reality of the situation is that this is rampant in the league and has been so for decades. Swayman isn't the first to do this. He's just the one in the current spotlight with this specific situation.

In other situations, I am totally in agreement with you. But with the arbitration stuff that's being mentioned, I can see why he might feel that. It's well known that arbitration can get really nasty.

I think he's hinting he's upset that the Bruins just kept tearing him down in arbitration and contract negotiations in a sort of, "You can do no right, so take the lower amount" type of bias. If he doesn't feel valued as a person, he wants to be shown he is valuable by the money he takes home. IMO this is a very common thing for many people in general (not just hockey) and why people take pay cuts for certain roles. People all want to feel valued. They just differ in how they wanted it measured (ie: Combination of take home money and intangibles of how they feel going to work every day).

 

[Ghost of Murph]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1841831916317675607

Get that bag Sway!

Hopefully no opposing players call him bad names. Maybe he makes a list of those too and can go on various podcasts to show how mean and unfair the world is to him. I guess Swayman didn't educate himself about arbitration before or after he elected to go through it. Arbitration is not where management gives you gold stickers and sings Kumbaya with the agent.

This guy is an unrealistic greedy headcase. Boston is stupid if it thinks committing to him for 8 years at 8+ per is a good idea. After all that has transpired surely they won't go more than 4, if they even keep him around.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Crazy how much he is asking for a guy under .500 in playoffs under 200 games in the nhl.

Bro thinks he's Brodeur or what?

 

[JKG33]

Hilarious to see people shitting on a guy who's showed up at every chance he got. Good on him for getting his money, some team will be thrilled to have him

 

[Hookslide]

Crazy how much he is asking for a guy under .500 in playoffs under 200 games in the nhl.

Bro thinks he's Brodeur or what?

how about under 150

 

[RogerRogerr]

Crazy how much he is asking for a guy under .500 in playoffs under 200 games in the nhl.

Bro thinks he's Brodeur or what?

Swayman has a better SV% than Brodeur in the playoffs, maybe Brodeur is aiming too low!

 

[EpochLink]

Hilarious to see people shitting on a guy who's showed up at every chance he got. Good on him for getting his money, some team will be thrilled to have him

I don’t blame him for getting the bag, he wants that long term stability and pay.

 

[TheBeard]

It's honestly more akin to someone going, "I don't feel loved, so give me more money to make up for it instead."

Am I... dating Jeremy Swayman??

 

[DKH]

Crazy how much he is asking for a guy under .500 in playoffs under 200 games in the nhl.

Bro thinks he's Brodeur or what?

Don’t go there or you will end up being on a list

Odds he had bananas on it as well

 

[Bodit9]

I don’t blame him for getting the bag, he wants that long term stability and pay.

He has the bag right now. $64M in a great situation. Totally stupid to pass on it

 

[GCK]

He has the bag right now. $64M in a great situation. Totally stupid to pass on it

Not really, if he played it smart and took a 2 year bridge he’d likely be above 10M on his UFA contract.

 

[Bodit9]

Not really, if he played it smart and took a 2 year bridge he’d likely be above 10M on his UFA contract.

I thought he should've targeted 4 years $7M AAV then cash in on an 8 year huge contract. But supposedly he wants long-term

 

[Score08]

Curious if some of his teammates might secretly be little pissed his bag grab is going to negatively affect the teams flexibility

 

[Fatass]

Curious if some of his teammates might secretly be little pissed his bag grab is going to negatively affect the teams flexibility

Players don’t get involved in other guys’ business. Players know they need Swayman to win and would be pissed and management for screwing up their chances.

 

[Hookslide]

Players don’t get involved in other guys’ business. Players know they need Swayman to win and would be pissed and management for screwing up their chances.

That I, do not believe to be totally true. The players are aware of what is going on, and know how it could affect the roster, they also realize that a job might be in jeopardy

 

[Habby4Life]

Bruins are notorious for low balling their stars. Only a mickey mouse exec would do what Neely did.

Stick to your guns, B's will cave.