Suntouchable13
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So the Bruins are getting close to Swayman’s value. I wonder if 72 million gets it done or if the Bruins will need to get to 80?
It's not the Leafs, man, where they give players what they want.
So the Bruins are getting close to Swayman’s value. I wonder if 72 million gets it done or if the Bruins will need to get to 80?
Cap is going up. Signing 8 years away to a single contract is a huge deal.Oh yes because the agent wasn't the one who floated the "low ball" Bruins offer to Spitting Chiclets to make them look bad.
Please explain to me how Swayman deserves 9+ a year.
He's played 41, 37, 44 regular season games since being a full time player with Boston.
Boston is taking a risk with 8 mil to a guy that hasn't shown he can handle 55+ regular season starts as a true #1 in his career yet. Yes Ullmark obviously played a role in that as well, but it's a valid concern.
His direct comparison is Sorokin. They've been full-time guys for the same time frame. Sorokin has made 48 more starts in that period. Sorokin signed 8/66.
8/64 is more than fair for all involved.
Could've said the same with Sorokin who even as a Bruins fan, I think is a better goalie. But that didn't seem to matter there. 8/66 stars this season, just like Swaymans would.Cap is going up. Signing 8 years away to a single contract is a huge deal.
In 3 years, a goalie worse than Swayman could either be making just as much, if not more, than swayman,
I dont blame him from trying to aime higher. He's a stud goalie and wants to be paid liek one for the next 8 years of his life
Thats a fair point but I think Swayman truly believes he's the best goalie in the league (if not top 3 for sure). He wants to get paid like one for the next 8 years.Could've said the same with Sorokin who even as a Bruins fan, I think is a better goalie. But that didn't seem to matter there. 8/66 stars this season, just like Swaymans would.
Agent playing a big role in this..same agent as Nylander during that hold out. Same agent as Krug, who was pissed at the Bruins for not giving him an offer.
Swayman took the Bruins to arbitration.Swayman isn’t even proven as a full time starter. 7m short term would make the most sense. Really starting to care for him less and less as this drags out. The bruins taking him to arbitration really soured their relationship and he took that personal. This isn’t about money as much as it is sticking it to them I think and winning.
If there are teams that want to give him 9 or 10 million, I’d be interested to see what they’d offer. A goalie, a young top 6 and a good pick or prospect and I might be intrigued.To be fair... Connor Hellebuyck is 31 years old and Sorokin is 29. Both of those deals, there's probably a bit of an underlying sense "this is going to turn rough towards the end".
Swayman is 25. If he's going to sign a deal that takes him to 33, he probably needs to get close to $10m, because it's going to be by far his biggest deal.
Sorokin & Hellebuyck also raise the challenge of why it probably doesn't make sense to sign anything 4 or 5 year deal.... because even if the next 4-5 years go great then when it comes time to negotiate another one, he's negotating a deal that he knows is likely to turn rough.
If Swayman thinks there's a team out there willing to give him a $9m+ 8-year bag, and to be honest, there probably is, there's a lot of teams who a deal like that would make a ton of sense for, then it is certainly in his best interest to do everything he can to get that.
That should be the final offer, sit him or shop him after that.Cam Neely just said Bruins have offered Swayman 64m (8x8). WOW!
Yeah that completely changes things. Now we know Swayman is the unreasonable one here. 8x8 is a hell of an offer and a perfect middle ground with each side giving up a million or so
8 mil puts him at #5 in the league for goalie salary behind Bobrovsky, Vasi, Hellebyuck, and Sorokin though. Well top 5 if you remove Price from the equation since he's essentially retired.Thats a fair point but I think Swayman truly believes he's the best goalie in the league (if not top 3 for sure). He wants to get paid like one for the next 8 years.
Maybe he should take a shorter term contract and bet on himself again in like 4/5 years if 8years ends up being too much
Oh yes because the agent wasn't the one who floated the "low ball" Bruins offer to Spitting Chiclets to make them look bad.
Please explain to me how Swayman deserves 9+ a year.
He's played 41, 37, 44 regular season games since being a full time player with Boston.
Boston is taking a risk with 8 mil to a guy that hasn't shown he can handle 55+ regular season starts as a true #1 in his career yet. Yes Ullmark obviously played a role in that as well, but it's a valid concern.
His direct comparison is Sorokin. They've been full-time guys for the same time frame. Sorokin has made 48 more starts in that period. Sorokin signed 8/66.
8/64 is more than fair for all involved.
And gave him all the leverage in the world.Boston confused why swayman is grinding them after taking him to arbitration last year.
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I agree with this, but I'm all for Bruin chaos.26 years old
A 7th place vezina season
Never had an insane workload of 50 or more games
$8x8 on the table
Gotta side with Boston management
That ridiculous that he wants more
Again, Swayman is the one that filed for arbitration not the Bruins. It's on Gross for not preparing him for the arbitration process.Boston confused why swayman is grinding them after taking him to arbitration last year.
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And why would he file for arbitration in the first place? Probably because he didn't like what the Bruins were offering.Again, Swayman is the one that filed for arbitration not the Bruins. It's on Gross for not preparing him for the arbitration process.
I kind of agree with you but Swayman could counter that they just did the mid term contract. Unfortunately the Bruins only did it for one season through arbitration.In reality this should be a 6.5m contract mid term contract, especially compared to swaymans comparables. It's just unluck of the draw which team(s) run into the few really greedy players. As a gm, I'd probably consider moving on from players before contract talks come up if they were employing gross as an agent.