Perennial
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The Preamble
I'm not sure about this trade from Colorado's perspective, so this is more of a 'What do you guys think?' idea rather than a proposal I'm adamant should happen. I think it clearly makes the Avs the betting favorites in the West, and possibly even puts them ahead of Tampa as the league's best team on paper, however, since I generally prefer a more patient approach from management when building a contender, I'd be reluctant to part with such high-end young talent given the years of team-control left on their contracts. With that said, I thought the Kuemper acquisition was poor asset management, so I really don't know how this proposal would be viewed by Sakic and Co. If this trade lead to the Avs making back-to-back Finals, winning one of them, is it worth it?
From Vancouver's perspective, as talented as they are, it seems unlikely they'll emerge as serious contenders before Horvat and Miller hit UFA in 2 years, so I think there's some merit to moving them for younger talent with more years of team control. And while Horvat and Miller could both sign extensions before reaching UFA, I think it's interesting to explore what a trade involving them might look like
For the Kings, I really like the fit, though I am curious what others think regarding the value
The Trade
Colorado out: Byram, Newhook, Johnson
Colorado in: Horvat (50% retained), Miller (50% retained), Maata
Vancouver out: 2023 2nd, Hughes, Horvat (50% retained), Miller (50% retained)
Vancouver in: L.A.'s 2022 1st, Byram, Turcotte, Newhook, Johnson
Los Angeles out: 2022 1st, Turcotte, Maata
Los Angeles in: VAN's 2023 2nd, Hughes
Colorado goes all in, creating arguably the best roster in the NHL while also clearing the 2 remaining years of Johnson's contract. Maata has just 1 year remaining on his deal, so he'll come off the books next summer when the Avs will presumably be looking to re-sign some of their key UFAs
Vancouver bring in a hometown stud prospect in Byram to replace Hughes, while adding elite forward prospects Turcotte and Newhook to their talented young core. They also pick up a 2022 1st rd pick from the Kings which could fall in the top 10. There's no place for Johnson in Vancouver's lineup, so he could be flipped to a team in need of a veteran blueliner. Buffalo, for example, could swap Okposo for Johnson in order to pair him with Dahlin
Los Angeles get an offensively gifted young Dman by dealing from a position of strength. Given their current payroll, Hughes will have to settle for a 1 or 2 year bridge deal worth approx. 6 million before the cap space needed to sign him long term becomes available. They also pick up a 2nd rd pick in the 2023 draft
Parting Shots
As mentioned in the preamble, I'm especially keen to hear opinions on the Hughes for Turcotte portion of the proposal...
Should the Kings have to include a 1st, or would Turcotte plus a 2nd suffice?
If the Kings have to include a 1st, should the Canucks have to send back a 2nd or a 3rd to balance things out?
What do you think is fair?
I'm not sure about this trade from Colorado's perspective, so this is more of a 'What do you guys think?' idea rather than a proposal I'm adamant should happen. I think it clearly makes the Avs the betting favorites in the West, and possibly even puts them ahead of Tampa as the league's best team on paper, however, since I generally prefer a more patient approach from management when building a contender, I'd be reluctant to part with such high-end young talent given the years of team-control left on their contracts. With that said, I thought the Kuemper acquisition was poor asset management, so I really don't know how this proposal would be viewed by Sakic and Co. If this trade lead to the Avs making back-to-back Finals, winning one of them, is it worth it?
From Vancouver's perspective, as talented as they are, it seems unlikely they'll emerge as serious contenders before Horvat and Miller hit UFA in 2 years, so I think there's some merit to moving them for younger talent with more years of team control. And while Horvat and Miller could both sign extensions before reaching UFA, I think it's interesting to explore what a trade involving them might look like
For the Kings, I really like the fit, though I am curious what others think regarding the value
The Trade
Colorado out: Byram, Newhook, Johnson
Colorado in: Horvat (50% retained), Miller (50% retained), Maata
Vancouver out: 2023 2nd, Hughes, Horvat (50% retained), Miller (50% retained)
Vancouver in: L.A.'s 2022 1st, Byram, Turcotte, Newhook, Johnson
Los Angeles out: 2022 1st, Turcotte, Maata
Los Angeles in: VAN's 2023 2nd, Hughes
Colorado goes all in, creating arguably the best roster in the NHL while also clearing the 2 remaining years of Johnson's contract. Maata has just 1 year remaining on his deal, so he'll come off the books next summer when the Avs will presumably be looking to re-sign some of their key UFAs
Vancouver bring in a hometown stud prospect in Byram to replace Hughes, while adding elite forward prospects Turcotte and Newhook to their talented young core. They also pick up a 2022 1st rd pick from the Kings which could fall in the top 10. There's no place for Johnson in Vancouver's lineup, so he could be flipped to a team in need of a veteran blueliner. Buffalo, for example, could swap Okposo for Johnson in order to pair him with Dahlin
Los Angeles get an offensively gifted young Dman by dealing from a position of strength. Given their current payroll, Hughes will have to settle for a 1 or 2 year bridge deal worth approx. 6 million before the cap space needed to sign him long term becomes available. They also pick up a 2nd rd pick in the 2023 draft
Parting Shots
As mentioned in the preamble, I'm especially keen to hear opinions on the Hughes for Turcotte portion of the proposal...
Should the Kings have to include a 1st, or would Turcotte plus a 2nd suffice?
If the Kings have to include a 1st, should the Canucks have to send back a 2nd or a 3rd to balance things out?
What do you think is fair?
