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Rumor: The All Encompassing Trevor Zegras Thread

What would you give up to get Zegras?

  • Habs 24 1st (Top 5 protected)

    Votes: 10 3.4%
  • Habs 25 1st (Top 5 protected)

    Votes: 9 3.0%
  • WPG 24 1st OR Cal 25 1st + forward and defense prospect (e.g. Mesar & Barron)

    Votes: 98 33.0%
  • WPG 24 1st AND Cal 25 1st + forward and defense prospect (e.g. Mesar & Barron)

    Votes: 34 11.4%
  • Habs 24 1st (Top 5 protected) AND WPG 24 1st AND Cal 25 1st

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Some other combination of 1st round picks and prospects

    Votes: 32 10.8%
  • Nothing - Zegras has too many red flags and will kill the culture

    Votes: 113 38.0%

  • Total voters
    297
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22 years old, 33 points in 63 games, 6 points in 11 playoffs games, for an offensive defenseman, who's clueless defensively... I'm sure we will get a 1st for him. :sarcasm:
It's a weak draft. He is A RD. A late 1st isn't worth much. Someone would take a chance especially if they have more than one 1st.
 
Dach was far from soft in passed years. He came back from a serious injury. When you are maybe one injury from the league, it must get to your head at one point
He is lazy. He arrived at the camp last season way out of shape...slow like a turtle..even Hughed said it. He eas in rehab but took it easy for months

Small players have way more caracter and heart for the most part cause people did not believed in them for a big chunk of their career and they to prove something since they are young

Sometimes for big players everthing is so easy

If Dach was 5.11 no f way that he would have been drafted 3rd overall..no way
 
I hope we do land him.

I'd bet on him resuming his spot as one of the top 3-5 forwards from that draft. No one is catching Hughes (unless injuries derail him), but Z will be right back in the mix with Boldly & Caufield by the end of next year if he can stay healthy.
 
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I hope we do land him.

I'd bet on him resuming his spot as one of the top 3-5 forwards from that draft. No one is catching Hughes (unless injuries derail him), but Z will be right back in the mix with Boldly & Caufield by the end of next year if he can stay healthy.
He’s the hockey dictionary definition of one dimensional and his production isn’t anywhere near where it needs to be to make up for it. Ontop, his character was questioned at one point, he has an injury history, and his contract situation is also a problem. Jonathan Drouin was way less of a red flag when we aquired him then Zegras is now and we saw how that went. No thank you.
 
Are some people wstchimg from the back of their TVs? Are they missing what it tales to win a cup? Are the Panthers invisible? Am i going to get a date with a supermodel?

I like Z as an entertaining pick up in an exhibition game. I want no part of Z in a bar fight for the cup.

A trade for Mailloux? Right this minute? Yes. Three games ago i would say you're crazy. The guy is proving that he has a superpower...to be a beast...or a beast of burden.
 
He’s the hockey dictionary definition of one dimensional and his production isn’t anywhere near where it needs to be to make up for it. Ontop, his character was questioned at one point, he has an injury history, and his contract situation is also a problem. Jonathan Drouin was way less of a red flag when we aquired him then Zegras is now and we saw how that went. No thank you.

I disagree. His production has stalled/regressed the past two seasons, but that is in large part because of an intentional focus on rounding out his game and paying more attention to being a complete player. In particular, his last stretch of games this season in returning from injury showed a marked improvement in his end-to-end impact. Making this kind of shift, and embracing the "dip" that it can have on productivity, especially in an entertainment industry where casual fans and pundits with superficial perspectives on performance are quick to dismiss a player based solely on their stat line, is no easy task for a 23-24 year old... that he embraced it speaks to his commitment to being a better hockey player. The way he's fought through some difficult injuries and the fall from grace of being a poster-boy, while maintaining a strong compete level and positive, team-first attitude, runs very contrary to the "character issues" you suggest.

this end of season interview speaks to these very points;


Curious what you ground your assessment of his character and his play on?

Integrating the new elements of his game takes time, but the payoff as he gets more and more comfortable will very likely be seen in a return to higher production... it's not like he lost or forgot the skill that easily made him one of the top 2-3 players from that draft class through his first few seasons. I may end up wrong, but KH & MSL know the person very well and if we bring him in it will because they share in the perspective that his character is not a concern... the talent, well that's never been in question
 
I disagree. His production has stalled/regressed the past two seasons, but that is in large part because of an intentional focus on rounding out his game and paying more attention to being a complete player. In particular, his last stretch of games this season in returning from injury showed a marked improvement in his end-to-end impact. Making this kind of shift, and embracing the "dip" that it can have on productivity, especially in an entertainment industry where casual fans and pundits with superficial perspectives on performance are quick to dismiss a player based solely on their stat line, is no easy task for a 23-24 year old... that he embraced it speaks to his commitment to being a better hockey player. The way he's fought through some difficult injuries and the fall from grace of being a poster-boy, while maintaining a strong compete level and positive, team-first attitude, runs very contrary to the "character issues" you suggest.

this end of season interview speaks to these very points;


Curious what you ground your assessment of his character and his play on?

Integrating the new elements of his game takes time, but the payoff as he gets more and more comfortable will very likely be seen in a return to higher production... it's not like he lost or forgot the skill that easily made him one of the top 2-3 players from that draft class through his first few seasons. I may end up wrong, but KH & MSL know the person very well and if we bring him in it will because they share in the perspective that his character is not a concern... the talent, well that's never been in question
Love you as a poster. Disagree with just about everything on this specific player.
 
I disagree. His production has stalled/regressed the past two seasons, but that is in large part because of an intentional focus on rounding out his game and paying more attention to being a complete player. In particular, his last stretch of games this season in returning from injury showed a marked improvement in his end-to-end impact. Making this kind of shift, and embracing the "dip" that it can have on productivity, especially in an entertainment industry where casual fans and pundits with superficial perspectives on performance are quick to dismiss a player based solely on their stat line, is no easy task for a 23-24 year old... that he embraced it speaks to his commitment to being a better hockey player. The way he's fought through some difficult injuries and the fall from grace of being a poster-boy, while maintaining a strong compete level and positive, team-first attitude, runs very contrary to the "character issues" you suggest.

this end of season interview speaks to these very points;


Curious what you ground your assessment of his character and his play on?

Integrating the new elements of his game takes time, but the payoff as he gets more and more comfortable will very likely be seen in a return to higher production... it's not like he lost or forgot the skill that easily made him one of the top 2-3 players from that draft class through his first few seasons. I may end up wrong, but KH & MSL know the person very well and if we bring him in it will because they share in the perspective that his character is not a concern... the talent, well that's never been in question
Would you trade Mailloux for Zegras? One for one
 
He is lazy. He arrived at the camp last season way out of shape...slow like a turtle..even Hughed said it. He eas in rehab but took it easy for months

Small players have way more caracter and heart for the most part cause people did not believed in them for a big chunk of their career and they to prove something since they are young

Sometimes for big players everthing is so easy

If Dach was 5.11 no f way that he would have been drafted 3rd overall..no way
Dach physically was bigger and stronger than most in junior and had it fairly easy and did not have to put much effort to produce. Work ethic and drive is what separates the likes of Crosby, Marchand, McDavid from guys like Dach or Daigle. A rebuilding team like Chicago would not have traded a 21 years old 6’4” 215 pounds3rd overall center 3 years after being drafted if he was a winner.
 
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I hope we do land him.

I'd bet on him resuming his spot as one of the top 3-5 forwards from that draft. No one is catching Hughes (unless injuries derail him), but Z will be right back in the mix with Boldly & Caufield by the end of next year if he can stay healthy.
I would have had all 4 in my keeper league if I hadn't lost the lottery. And the only one i would consider trading is Hughes (if I could get a player near his value that wasn't a glass body).
Hughes is a glass body. Zegras wasn't until the last 2 years but another injury and he is,
 
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We do not need another soft winger. We need the opposite; playoff hockey is not for the weak, and despite our best efforts to overcome that, we got mauled against the Capitals.
They didn't get mauled. They got cheapshotted which was not preventable as the refs kissed Cap ass. They were beaten because they only had one line who could hit the ocean with a shot.
 

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