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Prospect Info: The 2026 NHL Draft First Round Thread - Part 5

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I don't want Verhoeff but Chychrun is a clear 1D, that would be a fantastic outcome.

We are in year 1 of a minimum 4/5 year rebuild, if not longer.
We will have a ton of time to get Forwards, I am not worried at all.
This is why going Carels or Reid is perfectly fine.
They can go any direction really, this is year one.
Agreed when it comes to wingers. I'm a little concerned about centres, the type of centre you need for the rebuild to work are generally only available in the top 3 picks of the draft.

If I knew we were committed to the tank for the next two years I'd be clamoring for a dman this time but I'm not confident we will do what is necessary. I'd hate to pass on a potential top line centre and then be sitting in Detroits cuck chair 7 years from now with a bunch of 2/3 c candidates they picked in the top 10 and unable to progress because they didn't tank hard enough and never landed the 1C of the future despite elite talent at the other positions.
 
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We are in year 1 of a minimum 4/5 year rebuild, if not longer.
We will have a ton of time to get Forwards, I am not worried at all.
This is why going Carels or Reid is perfectly fine.
They can go any direction really, this is year one.
I agree. Plus, it was the Dman who went for the most value in these recent trades. Now, no higher end C has moved like Larkin, so that could change things. Brady, Sam, Kyrou were winger.
 
I agree. Plus, it was the Dman who went for the most value in these recent trades. Now, no higher end C has moved like Larkin, so that could change things. Brady, Sam, Kyrou were winger.
That in itself is an expression of value though, like Lundell was never going to be made available for Brady for example.
 
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If Stenberg is there, it’s easy, just grab him and move on. Don’t worry about getting cute, even if a part of me wants to be cute haha.

Stenberg has the best talent level, and his play looks like it will translate well, he’s kind of a can’t miss. It sucks we don’t get a center, but we have a bunch of other picks still we can take shots with, we can’t pass up a 90 point defensively responsible winger.
 
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If Stenberg is there, it’s easy, just grab him and move on. Don’t worry about getting cute, even if a part of me wants to be cute haha.

Stenberg has the best talent level, and his play looks like it will translate well, he’s kind of a can’t miss. It sucks we don’t get a center, but we have a bunch of other picks still we can take shots with, we can’t pass up a 90 point defensively responsible winger.


Well, yea.

But he wont be there. SJS is taking him 10000000% lock it in.
 
We are in year 1 of a minimum 4/5 year rebuild, if not longer.
We will have a ton of time to get Forwards, I am not worried at all.
This is why going Carels or Reid is perfectly fine.
They can go any direction really, this is year one.

Also the next 2 years are freaking loaded with top offensive players. This is like the one year to not draft skilled forwards.
 
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I honestly think you’re right, their trade for 9OA solidified that. They’ll take Stenberg at 2OA to replace Eklund, then grad the best defenseman available at 9OA.
I tend in that direction too.

But it's also possible that San Jose is fixing their D in one draft.

There's heavy rumors they are acquiring Morgan Rielly, they have Kesselring.

There's your veteran mentorship.

They have Dickinson.

If they add Smits and Reid to that, your D is almost rebuilt for the mid term and replacing Rielly and Kesselring won't be too hard from within.
 
From New York Times article here. My concern is not just the initial concussion, but also the lingering symptoms that caused him to miss the combine more than 2 months later. He was at the combine, but only did interviews and medical tests. Skipped the physical tests/workouts.

There are varying levels of concern among NHL talent evaluators about a concussion Carels sustained in Prince George’s playoff opener on March 27. He missed the next two games before returning for the team’s final nine, but lingering symptoms caused him to skip testing at the recent NHL Draft Combine, colleague Corey Pronman reported on “The Athletic Hockey Show.”
This is extremely concerning to me. Almost puts him on the DND list.
 
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I know how much everyone likes Scouching so I thought I would post his finals rankings.
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Lol why?

Don't think ive ever seen a 6'4 220 lbs+ dman with terrific numbers draw so much hate as Verhoeff.
Saw someone say his best is Chychrun which is funny because this is the same thing that happened to him in his draft year. Good numbers but game just picked apart causing him to drop too far. That said I wouldn’t take him at 3.
 
Saw someone say his best is Chychrun which is funny because this is the same thing that happened to him in his draft year. Good numbers but game just picked apart causing him to drop too far. That said I wouldn’t take him at 3.


Chase Reid - My 7th overall prospect

Chase Reid was clearly the best player on the ice in the CHL games that I watched, and was probably the US's best defenseman at the U20s. I thought, and still do think, that the criticism of his "low" point per game average was a bit silly, since he was the main offensive driver on a team that included former 5th overall pick Brady Martin. It only takes about one shift to recognize that he has elite hands/edgework and offensive playmaking at the CHL level,

In one of the playoff games between London and the Soo I saw Reid pick the puck up on the right point, fake a slap shot, easily beat the forward by putting the puck between his legs while turning, then fake out another forward and make a no look pass to his teammate, who fanned on the shot. I tried to find it again, but gave up as it just wasn't worth my time. It was sort of like this other play he made, but much nicer.


Anyway, it's not particularly contentious to claim that Reid is an elite puck handler at the CHL level, especially with regards to zone entries and exploiting 1v1's.


He was also (reportedly) 6'3 and 195lbs. Physical play isn't his forte, but I saw him throw a nice neutral zone hit which checked off a "good enough physicality" box. All that put together should explain why and I didn't bother looking at him with a finer toothed comb. I got the Makar comparisons, even if I thought they were optimistic, and thought the general consensus of him being worth the 2nd or 3rd overall pick in the draft seemed about right.

But after coming back to Reid's tape a lot of the shine has come off. First, while this may sound minimal, I was promised a player who was 6'3, 195lbs. He measured in at 6'2.5 and 190lbs at the combine. Not bad, but a little disappointing. Every bit less size makes him a less safe prospect, especially when his lighter frame matches what I see when I watch his games. He wins about his share of board battles, but I've seen random, mid-sized CHL teenagers bullying him in the corners.

Here he clearly loses positioning against that forward, and gets bailed out by his center.


Chiarot muscles him off the puck even though he starts with plenty of space to make a play.


Here he tries a one on one move at the point against undrafted 20 year old Hayden Reid, listed at 6'0, 180lbs. He fails to juke him out, and easily muscled off the puck, which leads to a turnover.


Still, Reid has a good stick, and I don't need my PP1QB to be a physically dominant player. More concerning is that his skating really isn't elite even at the CHL level. His edgework/agility definitely is, which caused me to initially assume that the rest of his skating was. Players don't go full out most shifts, but after multiple games I started to wonder why I had never seen top end speed or quickness from this guy, when he'd been in plenty of footraces by that point.

Here he loses what should have been, at minimum, a 50/50 race to retreive the puck.


Sometimes his legs look almost sluggish. Sure, he was almost fifty seconds into his shift at that point, but he hadn't done much more than coast around. I keep wanting to see more juice in those legs.


About the fastest I've ever seen him skate is this play here, which seems more like great speed, than truly elite.


He's far from the fastest guy on his own team. Even some guy I'd never heard of, Jeremy Martin, is noticeably faster. Although, as an aside, I really liked that guy. Undrafted 19 year old. Listed at 6'1, 190lbs, scored 26 goals, great speed. I'd probably take him with a late round flier.

Anyway, Reid's lack of elite speed/quickness combined with his average physical play is why he isn't nearly as good as I kept hoping he'd be at puck retrievals. He's easier to forecheck at the CHL level than Makar is at the NHL level. It was very disappointing going from watching Smits, Gustafsson, and Sokolovskii, all of whom excel at puck retrievals, to watching Reid's tape.


I was also increasingly disappointed with his neutral zone defensive play. He is overall good, and makes some eye catching neutral zone interceptions. Part of that is due to his great transitions and reach. Unfortunately, part of that is due to his at times bizarrely over aggressive style, which looks a lot better in highlight videos than game film.

Decision aside, the execution was also awful. He didn't pressure the initial puckhandler one bit, and then easily let him beat him to the net. That'll get him benched in the NHL.

I even began to question his elite hands. His stickhandling is incredibly smooth, but he has a weirdly high number of off-target passes. I think this is just a concentration thing, or a miscommunication, not innate, but I saw too many passes like this.


Still, I do really like Reid as a prospect. I project him to have moderately below average size/strength, above average overall skating, and great/excellent hands at the NHL level. He has a very credible chance at being about the tenth best PP1QB in the league, although I expect he'll be closer to 20th. Unlike, say, Villeneuve, I expect his defensive 5v5 play to be at least adequate at the NHL level, making him a relatively safe gamble. If he's a little worse than I expect he's still probably a bottom pair guy who's a contributor on the second unit powerplay.

Even that low end projection is a valuable player, especially as a right handed shot. Five years from now if whatever team drafts him thinks they've found a better PP1QB guy, I'd expect Reid to command a very nice return for them in a trade. I just think people should lower their expectations. You're hoping for a player like Morgan Reilly, Cam Fowler, or maybe Bowen Byram. He's not the next Makar.



He'll be fun to watch, for better or for worse.



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IMO you go BPA because as far as I can tell we need help in every position, even the LD spot as we don' have a #1 LD atm, I know Zeev is supposed to be that guy but you never know and behind him is only D-Petey who I see as more of a high end 3rd pairing Dman in his prime.


Assuming McKenna and Stenberg are gone I would not be opposed on trading back with Calgary to pick at #6 and pick one of Carels, Bjorck, Malhotra, Verhoeff, or Reid.
 
wow, that’s scary. Shit so we don’t drsft Reid because he’s American we don’t pick Malhotra cause we chicken shit, we don’t draft Carels because maybe concussion so we stuck with Verhoeff.

This shit has to happen when we pick 3rd.

I guess the answer is Bjorck then 🤷‍♂️

(...just take Malhotra)

Id rather Bjork or Wyatt Cullen than Verhoeff. Verhoeff is worst possible scenario at 3.

I'd take Bjorck but I'd rather Verhoeff over Cullen for sure.

Cullen has skill but there's going to need to be major adjustment to his game. Too individualistic. Also more puck carrier than shooter.

I think Verhoeff can atleast be a #3D that anchors your 2nd pair. At his size & handedness I'd prefer that.
 
I think some Canucks fans might not want to hear this, but now I think Caleb malhotra might also be the safest pick at 3 if stenkenna is gone. I’m not being bias now, his game is more projectable, a centerman is also safe and seems to be a hot commodity.
 
Very curious to see how RJ is going to navigate all of this. Him and the sedins have never made a trade before. I wonder what kind of style or what he prioritizes. So far RJ has preached a lot about culture. Still don't know what kind of GM he's going to be.
 
Saw someone say his best is Chychrun which is funny because this is the same thing that happened to him in his draft year. Good numbers but game just picked apart causing him to drop too far. That said I wouldn’t take him at 3.

I mean the comparison also:

Chychrun: 6'2, 215 lbs, American, Left Handed, LD - March birthday

Draft -1 year: OHL: 42 GP, 16 goals, 17 assists, 33 points
Draft year: OHL: 62 GP, 11 goals, 38 assists, 49 points

Verhoeff, 6'4, 210 lbs, Canadian, Right Handed, RD - June birthday

Draft -1 year: WHL: 74 GP, 22 goals, 33 assists, 55 points
Draft year: NCAA: 36 GP, 6 goals, 14 assists, 20 points
 
I know how much everyone likes Scouching so I thought I would post his finals rankings.
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If you're a team and you go in with this kind of list with this kind of tiering, you're either going down as the goat or getting your ass fired, there's like no in-between :laugh:

As I say that I remember the Canucks had Mcnally in their top 30 and Gallagher wasn't to be found on their list, which was also pure insanity, yet some of those scouts are still around, so...
 
if vancouver picks carels, their left side for the foreseeable future would look like this.
zeev/carels/dpetey/mpetey if he isnt traded, kudryavtsev right side:hronek,wallinder/jack thompson,mancini for the time being.
 
Just go Malhotra if Stenberg is gone. Let Manny take a job elsewhere if it be omes an issue down the road.

Start building a strong group of high character Canadians that will help you win in the playoffs.
Yes, I'm working my way around to that line of thinking as well. Just take Malhotra, and if you're at a point in the draft where it makes sense, take the Ruck brothers as well.

Good Canadian kids who'd absolutely be over the moon to be drafted by your Vancouver Canucks. It might take a bit longer for them to arrive--but when they do, they'll bleed the blue and green, and be Canucks for a long time.

Actually with Cootes and Malhotra down the middle--you got two important pieces in the middle of the ice and something to really build around.
 

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