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Speculation: The 2026-27 Roster Speculation Thread: Summer Edition - Throw in All The Oars, We're Trading for Battleships

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Can’t wait for the next shoe to drop. It’s definitely dropping. We probly need to replace Bo with someone in the 4-7M AAV range plus Tuch.

4th OA + for Robertson? Or 20th + Mrtka + Quinn for other help?

Don’t really want Helly, especially not for 4OA. 20th and Upl I could probly live with, give or take.

Only concern with 4th OA is how NHL ready are they? Still may not see them produce for 2 years. But, that’s fine.

20th
Mrtka
2027 1st (top 5 protected?)
Quinn
45th overall
Ostlund (maybe? Only because now we have 4th overall).

I’m guessing we make a big splash. I’d be ex tactic if we did so and retained 4th overall.
 
ValJamesDuex said:
Anyone have the link to the Crevier player thread btw ? For some reason I'm no longer seeing it. Tx
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old kummelweck

Player Discussion Post in thread 'Louis Crevier (RHD) acquired from Chicago'

Theoretically, does he fit next to Power if he were to win that spot? Should make camp interesting, for sure.

I applaud Jarmo for getting this guy as a return in the deal. Byram was a luxury in the top 4, and it least it shows a plan to address the D depth after Byram and Kess moved out.
 
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Selanne00008 said:
The “what?!” Replies are because we would only get a 4th round pick for a sign and trade. No where near a first round top 10 pick from Seattle. I assumed you were being sarcastic about that but maybe not.
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I was being facetious. After that Byram trade, trade return valuations are shot.
 
HaNotsri said:
McLeod, Malenstyn, Doan, Carrick, Östlund, Quinn?

I think Quinn could grow with new tasks. Time for him to become a complete top six forward.
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Duane S last night said Quinn could be a player going in another deal from what he was told by his source.
 
Me waiting on more trade news
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TehDoak said:
When Knies was available, Toronto didn't know if they'd have a 1st this year or not and they had a different GM. Going for futures made some sense then.

I think winning the lotto (+not having their own 1st round picks the next 2 years), the way forward is likely to try to win with their current group + McKenna + whatever they can add this summer. Worst case scenario it doesn't work and Matthews wants out and you have a bidding war at the deadline. I don't think it makes sense trading any good players unless you are getting better as a team.

I would be shocked to see Knies get moved at this point.
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I got killed for this take, but I see Knies as a great complimentary linemate for McKenna.

But, who knows what Chayka thinks.
 
Der Jaeger said:
Forton sounded like moving from 27 to 20 was huge for his scouting staff, which is what's guiding my thoughts. I'd rather pick and then work trades from next season's picks. Mostly because I don't think the Sabres will be picking as high as 20 and if they are in the top 5.... well, there will be more to talk about than trading picks.

For argument's sake, let's assume that Jarmo and Forton want to re-stock the forwards. Going off Wheeler's final mock, they take Bjorck at 4, Morozov at 20, and then one of the available D at 45 (Goljer, Shcherbakov, Piiparinen, Morrison). The high end part of the prospect pool would be:

Bjorck
Mrtka
Morozov
Johnson
Wahlberg
Strbak
D at 45
Kleber
Ziemer
McCarthy
Komarov
Bedkowski

With Levi in Rochester, and Poltapov still a future option, that's a top 10 prospect pool. It's pretty close to a tank-level prospect pool. It's certainly the type of organizational depth that a team ascending from the lottery to the playoffs would likely have.

But a division winner? That's rare. Especially since Ostlund, Kulich, and Helenius are just arriving, with Power and Benson still ascending. As the Sabres are contending, they should have no shortage of ELCs who can contribute meaningfully.

That tends to be how teams die. They spend futures on the present. Even cup winners are that way. Carolina's prospect pool is pretty sparse, though they still have their picks past this season. Florida is the same on prospects and they've got no 1st round pick until 2030. Tampa doesn't have a 1st until 2028, and their prospect pool is sparse, with the outlier being Sam O'Reilly.

Jarmo could avoid that situation entirely and have more of a Bruins-like run, extending for a while.
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Forton was also talking about the jump up to 20 before the Byram trade landed 4OV.

I would be surprised if Jarmo had a Kevyn Adams offseason and expected major roster holes to be filled by internal growth. I think putting 20OV, Mrtka and/or Ostlund depending on the plan at 4OV, and other futures in play to try and fill the major roster holes they have with Tuch and Byram moving out makes more sense for an offseason following a playoff appearance.

Making those picks at 4, 20, and 45 makes it a lot harder to improve the NHL roster for 2026-27. And I think that is a big piece of what Jarmo wants to get done this summer.
 
I see Winnipeg fans throwing around the 4th overall for Hellebyuck.

IF that happens we are going to the KeyBank center with pitchforks
 
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Jim Bob said:
Forton was also talking about the jump up to 20 before the Byram trade landed 4OV.

I would be surprised if Jarmo had a Kevyn Adams offseason and expected major roster holes to be filled by internal growth. I think putting 20OV, Mrtka and/or Ostlund depending on the plan at 4OV, and other futures in play to try and fill the major roster holes they have with Tuch and Byram moving out makes more sense for an offseason following a playoff appearance.

Making those picks at 4, 20, and 45 makes it a lot harder to improve the NHL roster for 2026-27. And I think that is a big piece of what Jarmo wants to get done this summer.
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I ran both potential rosters on puckpedia, with a Tuch re-signing:

As is:
Benson - Norris - Thompson
Doan - Ostlund - Tuch
Zucker - Helenius - Quinn
Krebs - McLeod - Malenstyn
x Carrick, Kozak

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Power - Timmins
Metsa - Crevier

UPL, Lyon, Ellis

With a Hellebuyck trade using the 2027 pick (post-draft trade)
Benson - Norris - Thompson
Doan - Ostlund - Tuch
Zucker - Helenius - Quinn
Krebs - Carrick - Malenstyn
x Kulich, Kozak

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Power - Timmins
Metsa - Crevier

Hellebuyck, Lyon, Ellis

Both require a subsequent move to get another D on the team. Johnson in place of Kozak works for the cap in both cases. And I think both rosters are nearly on par with last year, with Byram being the loss and then Hellebuyck being the add. Along with keeping Tuch, which is now possible. Whether Jarmo decides to do that, who knows? But it's a lot more possible today than yesterday.

Swing Quinn to Ottawa for Spence, and now you're arguably a better team. And if you can't re-sign Tuch, the Sabres have cap space to make adds.

There's no rush to move 2026 picks. Buffalo would need to be a wild card team to draft 20 again. I'd make the Jets wait until after the draft, when the picks are made, and then work from the 2027 1st, which is likely to be lower in the 1st round.
 
The Byram return was insanely good, but fans and media are being a bit too giddy imo.

You have to replace a 2nd pair D now. If you can get a Carlson on 2 years until a prospect is ready then Ok, If not, that's a big hole in what was the strength of your playoff run.

You also loose size, physicality, pk in GW that will need to be replaced in some form.

You have two picks (one being extremely attractive) and what is likely a 3rd pair physical dman in return right now.
 
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toddkaz said:
I see Winnipeg fans throwing around the 4th overall for Hellebyuck.

IF that happens we are going to the KeyBank center with pitchforks
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If we traded Byram for Hellebuyck, most people would have been pretty happy.

At this point, I think we probably need to step back, wait, and see what the "Net" of all the trades are once things settle out.

I don't really care what we do with 4th overall at this point. IF we can improve our team siginficantly with it, we should. I won't be upset if we simply take the BPA as well. Our big issue is lack of a franchise forward. I'm not sure there is one available at 4th OA (or at all in this draft), that being said, with the rate that 1st rounders are being slung around, I'm not sure teams value them much either.

The actual value of the pick seems to be that the receiving GM can claim they got good value when they've traded a popular player. I don't think the value we got for Byram is as egregious as people are making it out to be, people see "top 5 pick" and freak out though. I think we see quite a few more trades of picks coming up.
 
TehDoak said:
My craziness of the day:

1) Re-sign Tuch (8x9.75)
2) Trade UPL, Quinn, Ostlund, 20th OA for hellebuyck
3) Trade Norris and 4th OA for Larkin
4) Sign Malenstyn (2x2), Krebs (3x3), and Bensons (7x7)
5) Move Zucker for a pick (need the cap space)

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I'm not crazy about the lower half of the defense. But have around 3.1M in cap space to address the D later in the year if things don't work.
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Never cook again. Tuch is gone, but might as well put him at 11m to be reasonable. Take out Ostlund and Quinn for helle. Krebs to the sun.
 
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