Jim Bob
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So, the Sabres will pick 6th or 7th, Hagens will fall to them due to size, the Sabres will pick him, and then the talking heads will blast the Sabres for loving Smurfs.
Book it.
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ValJamesDuex
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kind of like Harrington using the BN for 20 years minus being an ass * hole
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I mean, Chad is a non-traditional Sabre journalist. There is nothing wrong with that or with what he's doing in terms of coverage. Almost all of the folks who cover the team in a formal sense do the same, as do most in the on-line blog-o-sphere.
truthbluth
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The only way to guarantee a top 3 pick is to finish dead last which is a statistical Impossibility. I actually like this class up to about pick 12-13. I think they are pretty close. I have my favorites (cough cough Desnoyers), but unlike some prior years, I don’t see a huge drop to guys like Bear, O’Brien and Martin. My problem with winning games and showing out strong…again, is Terry getting fooled into retaining Adams.
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From a percentage points standings perspective we sit 5th worse (but also ties with Seattle, and Pit). 4th worst is Philly.
Looking like we won't "catch" Nashville for 3rd worst. Most likely finish to me is anywhere from 4th to 8th worst, before the lottery balls drop. Sucks that we could pass a team like Boston for 8th, and with poor lotto luck draft 8-10. That's worst case scenario.
Best case we finish 4th from the bottom and nobody jumps us and/or we win and move up.
Looking like we won't "catch" Nashville for 3rd worst. Most likely finish to me is anywhere from 4th to 8th worst, before the lottery balls drop. Sucks that we could pass a team like Boston for 8th, and with poor lotto luck draft 8-10. That's worst case scenario.
Best case we finish 4th from the bottom and nobody jumps us and/or we win and move up.
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If we go 6-4-1 over our final 11 games we could end up in the 10th draft slot, pre-lottery.
That's the same point pace we just played our last 10 games in.
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Gabrielor
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Chad is a much, much better guy to talk to and listen to than Harrington.
It's a mountain of difference.
If we finish in the 4 to 6 range… any of Hagens, Martone, Frondell or Denoyers are alright with me. Mrtka and McQueen are also possibilities but I prefer the other 4 listed above.
toddkaz
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I think we finish 5-7 before the lotto. Still gonna get a good player. Definitely one of those will be available
Probably Frondell, McQueen or Desnoyers at 7. Worst case scenario is Eklund at 8. O'Brien seems to be rising.
ValJamesDuex
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7-3-0 in our last 10. 8 games to go.
Elkund. We’re coming for ya
Elkund. We’re coming for ya
Bruins with Misa/Hagens.
We'll ruin our draft position and won't make it to the playoffs, well done.
We'll ruin our draft position and won't make it to the playoffs, well done.
jc17
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Maybe I'd be more upset with "missing out" at the draft if this was a bottom 5 roster
But this team should never have been contending for a top draft spot so I don't really get why people seem to feel entitled to those picks. A 7-3 run is unfairly boosting our draft position but the 13 straight losses was normal?
There is no miracle run, they're just a mediocre team
But this team should never have been contending for a top draft spot so I don't really get why people seem to feel entitled to those picks. A 7-3 run is unfairly boosting our draft position but the 13 straight losses was normal?
There is no miracle run, they're just a mediocre team
Der Jaeger
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Jim Bob
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I don't think this little hot streak will teach any lessons that last because we have been here before and it hasn't translated to the next season.
Der Jaeger
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I’m hopeful that Ruff is the difference. Watching the Embedded TDL special makes me think he’s going to push hard for some culture changes. Which is the problem with the team, IMO.
jc17
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Idk, I feel like this is another overstated generalization
Got a little better at the end of 21-22 and the team was better in 22-23
Made a run near the end of 22-23, got worse in 23-24. Fits, but we also tried to change from a play style that was working
23-24 slightly above season average points % but no real heater to end the season
A Pdo run doesn't make me think we'll be good next season but people act like we turn into 07 team towards the end of every season and it really isn't happening . Aren't even playing that well now...
Jim Bob
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Detroit, Pittsburgh, and Buffalo were the three best EC non-playoff teams over the last 10 games of last season.
All three will likely miss the playoffs this year.
What Adams does with the roster in the offseason will affect the results next season immensely more than how they play the last 15-20 games this year.
Jim Bob
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It will all come down to whether Adams can make the needed roster tweaks or not.
The idea that Buffalo makes some late hero runs falls down in the face of their end of season records though-
How they've ended some recent seasons -
23-24: 7-7-1; .512 for the year
22-23: missed by a point 9-2-1, .555 for the year
21-22: 8-6 .457 for the year
20-21: 4-8 .330 for the year
19-20: 1-6 and the win was a shootout .493 for the year
Outside of 21-22, which moved them two spots in draft order, the idea that somehow they're great or even good late in the year is just lazy commentary.
jc17
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What chain said
I know your original post was in regards to the relevance of winning late games and I don't necessarily disagree
But I do disagree with the premise that this team has consistently been closing out seasons like that
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We feel entitled to those picks because we've been a bottom 3 team in the standings since December.
The team isn't "learning to win", they're just riding a hot goalie and a high shooting %. Underlying stats say they are still awful.
Since March 10th:
we are 8-4-0
30th in the league in 5v5 xGF%.
1st in the league in all situations shooting percentage with a 15.61%
We're playing the same garbage hockey that we've played all season. We're just shooting unsustainably high and Reimer has made some timely saves.
Jim Bob
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I think that both ideas are lazy.
There isn't evidence that teams "learn how to win" with a run of hot play down the stretch.
22-23 to 23-24 is a perfect example. They didn't learn anything AND Adams didn't have enough urgency in improving the roster in the summer of 2023.
Yet again, I am hoping that Adams has some urgency and can make the right moves to push the team forward. But, given how the first 5 seasons have played out, the good moves he's made have not been impactful enough. So, I am not having high expectations for this summer.
Also, looking at that draft, Chicago used the Sens pick on Korchinski, then Detroit took Kasper the pick prior to Buffalo selecting Savoie. With reports from Kasper's dad that he was the guy they really liked, that's the only real difference out of that win streak.
