The 2025 draft lottery Tank Wars - The Final stretch

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Matty Sundin

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The wild card, division titles and playoff placement/seeding isn’t the only race and prize going….Draft lottery odds now for the bottom 11…

1San Jose Sharks19-42-9.33625.5%
2Chicago Blackhawks21-41-9.35913.5%
3Nashville Predators26-36-8.42911.5%
4Buffalo Sabres28-35-6.4499.5%
5Philadelphia Flyers28-35-9.4518.5%
6Seattle Kraken30-36-5.4587.5%
7Pittsburgh Penguins29-32-11.4796.5%
8Boston Bruins30-33-9.4796.0%
9Anaheim Ducks30-32-8.4865.0%
10Detroit Red Wings32-31-6.5073.5%
11Columbus Blue Jackets31-29-9.5143.0%

Teams out of the playoffs still battling but could still enter the tank wars for a small chance to win

New York Rangers - 5.1 Percent chance to win 2nd overall - .521 pts percentage

New York Islanders - 4.2 percent chance to win 3rd overall - .529 pts percentage

Utah HC - 1.5 percent chance to win 4th overall - .536 pts percentage

Vancouver Canucks - 0.5 percent chance to to win 5th overall - .543 pts percentage

Calgary Flames - 0.5 percent chance to win 6th overall - .558 pts percentage


The reigning champs San Jose Sharks continue their dominance of the tank wars with only the 2023 Tank wars champion Blackhawks within reach. The Blackhawks also have a game in hand to not gain any accident points over the Sharks.

Meanwhile the Predators and Sabres are battling for the 3rd best odds to win with the Flyers 5pts up but going on a 1-8-1 tank roll to catch down in the final stretch ties with the Kracken with a game in hand for no accidental pts.

The Jackets with their dwindling playoffs hope could begin to look backwards and start dropping down to 7th best odds(6.5 percent chance to win lottery) which is currently being held by their former playoff rival the Pittsburgh Penguins.

Let the final stretch of the Tank wars begin
 
Probably just saying this because my Hawks have been in the gutter for years now but these draft odds are pretty low. It could also be my poor understanding of statistical analysis and odds (would honestly love a professional/educated correction if anyone has one) but I feel they give way too many % points to teams outside of the top 5.

Nonetheless as a Hawks fan and I'm sure Sharks fans feel the same way, we're looking at things now in terms of having a guaranteed top 4 pick (Sharks top 3). That's really the best you can hope for because even finishing last your odds aren't that great.

The Sharks are grabbing one of Misa or Schaefer which is likely a fantastic add for them.
 
Can't remember the exact rule, but I would like to see top 10 protection on picks be based on the teams standings and not the lottery results. Introduce some absolute chaos, decide if you are keeping the pick or deferring before the balls are dropped.
 
So, if the Sharks win the lottery this year, they can't win next year? Is that the rule? They might wanna hope to skip a year........
 
It’s odd seeing names like

Penguins and bruins in these parts

I feel like
Sabres and preds is more depressing, as I think both teams expected to be in a playoff race
The Pens will win either Mkenna or Dupont. Some teams are born into good fortune and it never changes. This is why Bedard went to Chicago.

You'd think all of this is random. But it isn't.
 
It’s odd seeing names like

Penguins and bruins in these parts

I feel like
Sabres and preds is more depressing, as I think both teams expected to be in a playoff race

Bruins are probably going to only be there for this season, the moves they made at this deadline were so shrewd, they reaped the benefits the most of this year's deadline being the best seller's market in recent history
 
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The Pens will win either Mkenna or Dupont. Some teams are born into good fortune and it never changes. This is why Bedard went to Chicago.

You'd think all of this is random. But it isn't.

Could have sworn that Chicago got bumped to #3 in the Ovechkin/Malkin draft year. Trying to find a pattern out of a relatively small sample size of lotteries isn't the most logical path. We can easily preemptively make a conspiracy theory for every team, so no matter who wins there'd be somebody who'd say "See I told you so."

I wish I could find this old post on the NBA board. Poster had a long tirade about how the NBA lottery had to be rigged because Minnesota hadn't won in 20+ years. He posted some math as his "proof" while not acknowledging the faulty premise that a previous result had any bearing on the current draw. And then over the new few years Minnesota won twice.
 
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So, if the Sharks win the lottery this year, they can't win next year? Is that the rule? They might wanna hope to skip a year........
The Sharks didn’t move up in the draft order last year, so from what I have read them drafting 1st last year doesn’t technically count as a lottery win. Can someone with more knowledge on this pls confirm?
 
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Could have sworn that Chicago got bumped to #3 in the Ovechkin/Malkin draft year. Trying to find a pattern out of a relatively small sample size of lotteries isn't the most logical path. We can easily preemptively make a conspiracy theory for every team, so no matter who wins there'd be somebody who'd say "See I told you so."

I wish I could find this old post on the NBA board. Poster had a long tirade about how the NBA lottery had to be rigged because Minnesota hadn't won in 20+ years. He posted some math as his "proof" while not acknowledging the faulty premise that a previous result had any bearing on the current draw. And then over the new few years Minnesota won twice.
Not a conspiracy theory, just a law of the universe. Chicago and especially Pittsburgh will get the best lottery luck you've ever seen. It's exactly why Pittsburgh won't win this year and will instead win next year when there's a true #1 talent in McKenna at the top
 
Could have sworn that Chicago got bumped to #3 in the Ovechkin/Malkin draft year. Trying to find a pattern out of a relatively small sample size of lotteries isn't the most logical path. We can easily preemptively make a conspiracy theory for every team, so no matter who wins there'd be somebody who'd say "See I told you so."

I wish I could find this old post on the NBA board. Poster had a long tirade about how the NBA lottery had to be rigged because Minnesota hadn't won in 20+ years. He posted some math as his "proof" while not acknowledging the faulty premise that a previous result had any bearing on the current draw. And then over the new few years Minnesota won twice.
Yes…Hawks dropped from 2 to 3, lost out on Malkin, and instead was able to draft the great Cam Barker.
 
Van should do a strategic one year tank and park EP40, Hughs and Demko and D Petey. But they won't
This year, the team finally gets to call the shots on their future. But next year? If stuff doesn’t pan out, management might just pull the plug early. Honestly, they at least owe the guys a say in how this plays out—though losing Petey definitely throws a wrench in things.
 

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