The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[OkimLom]

You think other teams captains meat with the GM on a regular basis? Yet it just so happens this is the only one that leaks?

AS many fans point out here that Buffalo is very tight lipped.

Wouldn't those other meetings make it into the news on a regular basis then yet I have seen no such reports and sure it happens from time to time but regularly? Very doubtful.

What leak? The idea of the Captain meeting with the GM, especially after the TDL, is an easy, and probably predictable situation one can make regardless of how "in tune" one may be in the Sabres.

There's nothing about what was said that points to anything that something in particular was said by a player. It reads like a typical podcaster that is looking for a story, and inserting what THEY would be thinking if they were in the player's shoes, and not based on anything that actually happened. The guy literally JUST signed a new contract, and he's got years before he has any sort of mechanisms that could be initiated that could force Dahlin forcing management's hand to move him.

Do I think Dahlin talked to Adams? Absolutely.
Do I think Dahlin gave him an ultimatum? No. But I do believe that Dahlin talked about his thoughts/opinions about the competitive level of the team.

 

[Beerz]

Do you believe politicians too, based on nothing but their word?

Is this some sort of gotcha? ... You're taking the word of Biz.

I'm taking Dahlin's word... whose job isn't to lie like politicians or media members.

Politicians and media members benefit from lying either for money or power.

I don't know how anyone can watch that Dahlin interview and see anything other than genuine honest statements.

 

[toddkaz]

What leak? The idea of the Captain meeting with the GM, especially after the TDL, is an easy, and probably predictable situation one can make regardless of how "in tune" one may be in the Sabres.

There's nothing about what was said that points to anything that something in particular was said by a player. It reads like a typical podcaster that is looking for a story, and inserting what THEY would be thinking if they were in the player's shoes, and not based on anything that actually happened. The guy literally JUST signed a new contract, and he's got years before he has any sort of mechanisms that could be initiated that could force Dahlin forcing management's hand to move him.

Do I think Dahlin talked to Adams? Absolutely.
Do I think Dahlin gave him an ultimatum? No. But I do believe that Dahlin talked about his thoughts/opinions about the competitive level of the team.

The post was meet on a regular basis. That the captain of teams meet the GM on a regular basis.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Why do you get to decide which news is real and which is fake, and why do you always claim with certainly that any negative news about the Sabres is fake?

I only said that the implied portion of his post was not true. And Dahlin confirmed it.

Anyone can take a shred of truth and skew it with their own implications, biases, etc. I call out the addition steps beyond what we know is true.

 

[Zman5778]

Why are you the only one who can decide what news is real and what is fake?

Rumor: Post in thread 'Dahlin wants out?'

Yesterday at 1:20 PM

So now we're parsing out what Biz said vs. what Dahlin said in response to show that Biz is somehow still right? C'mon man.

I know Biz is right because that's what any player in Dahlin's position would do. His agent would not be doing his job if he didn't help convey some version of this message. But I understand that it's comforting to just assume Biz is lying.

It's also not "parsing" to just look at words and what they mean. Dahoin didn't deny that he will ask out if things don't change soon.

That’s what they said according to the tweet.
Dahlin has told GM he wants...

• Doug Prishpreed

• 

I know Biz is right

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Pot, meet kettle.

That's called sarcasm. I'm doing what you all are doing to show you how silly it is.

This board is full of people who claim to know the truth 100%, yet show zero sources and are allowed to keep posting their bullshit as fact. The board rules only apply to certain people and certain opinions.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Is this some sort of gotcha? ... You're taking the word of Biz.

I'm taking Dahlin's word... whose job isn't to lie like politicians or media members.

Politicians and media members benefit from lying either for money or power.

I don't know how anyone can watch that Dahlin interview and see anything other than genuine honest statements.

He's telling the truth...no one said he asked out. They said he told Adams they need to start getting competitive soon. With the implication being, he can't guarantee he'll stay forever on a team that is a perennial joke.

It's easy to tell the truth when you aren't addressing the actual question. Which is what politicians and PR people do as part of their job. And when you're making $11M in the NHL...PR is a big part of your job.

 

[Beerz]

He's telling the truth...no one said he asked out. They said he told Adams they need to start getting competitive soon. With the implication being, he can't guarantee he'll stay forever on a team that is a perennial joke.

It's easy to tell the truth when you aren't addressing the actual question. Which is what politicians and PR people do as part of their job. And when you're making $11M in the NHL...PR is a big part of your job.

He nixed your (Biz's) implication as well.

Nice try Doug.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

He nixed your (Biz's) implication as well.

Nice try Doug.

He confirmed it more than he denied it. He just said he didn't ask to leave and never said the word leave. Well, no one ever accused him of asking for a trade (yet).

He also said the team can't keep losing like this, which implies that there is a limit to the amount he's willing to spend his career doing nothing but losing, and that limit is getting closer every losing season.

Anyway, of course he's going to deny it -- every team and every player in the history of the NHL has denied every rumor that has ever come out. Buffalo tends to fire people days after assuring the public they aren't going anywhere, as one example.

Dahlin has much more incentive to lie than Biz does. And Buffalo fans have all the incentive in eth world to believe Dahlin over Biz.

 

[Beerz]

He confirmed it more than he denied it. He just said he didn't ask to leave and never said the word leave. Well, no one ever accused him of asking for a trade (yet).

He also said the team can't keep losing like this, which implies that there is a limit to the amount he's willing to spend his career doing nothing but losing, and that limit is getting closer every losing season.

Anyway, of course he's going to deny it -- every team and every player in the history of the NHL has denied every rumor that has ever come out. Buffalo tends to fire people days after assuring the public they aren't going anywhere, as one example.

Dahlin has much more incentive to lie than Biz does. And Buffalo fans have all the incentive in eth world to believe Dahlin over Biz.

Biz literally said that Dahlin said Things have to change fast or I am gone.

Quit lying.

 

[Beerz]

Dahlin has more incentive to lie than Biz ....bwahahahahahahaha

Just a coincidence that Biz is dropping this a day before Buffalo plays on TnT .. right Doug.

 

[Snippit]

Are people really doubting that Dahlin isn't close to leaving?

 

[Beerz]

Are people really doubting that Dahlin isn't close to leaving?

No.. we are doubting Biz's report.

Quite clearly a difference.

 

[Snippit]

No.. we are doubting Biz's report.

Quite clearly a difference.

I doubt Dahlin actually said it in words, but it had to have been implied in the background.

 

[OkimLom]

The post was meet on a regular basis. That the captain of teams meet the GM on a regular basis.

Seeing how Pegula wants to structure the Sabres in terms of personal relationships, it makes total sense that the captain and GM have discussions and probably talk shop pretty regularly. Seeing as Dahlin has confirmed they had an honest discussion, that would point towards a relationship that is solid to the point where they trust each other to have an honest discussion. To work to that point, from my own professional experience, and seeing others, having open communication/dialogue on the regular is a must.

 

[Beerz]

I doubt Dahlin actually said it in words, but it had to have been implied in the background.

Just because we can all understand and imply that..doesn't mean that Dahlin was implying that.

He wants shit done..To me he sounds like a guy that is still 100% committed to this team.

Of course if the team stays on the same path and doesn't show a commitment to win than things will change ..

But Biz's literal words were That Dahlin spoke these words which Dahlin emphatically denied...and was obviously taken off guard by this.

 

[Ehran]

I doubt Dahlin actually said it in words, but it had to have been implied in the background.

I hope it was.

I would hope that Pegula couldn't stomach ANOTHER high profile, and a Captain at that, and high paid player that is highly regarded in the league for his skill, leaving because of the endless losing and the total klusterfook that the organization is.

Maybe it will, finally, get it through his skull that IT ISN'T WORKING!

But.... shit, that may just be wishful thinking.

 

[Sabresbyswords104]

Sabres only have 2 Ufa this summer bryson and Reimer. McLeod, Quinn , Peterka , byram docker are RFA . So would not be hard to set the roster for NeXT season . What other then this Will we do in the summer to make the team into the playoffs ?

 

[EXTRAS]

They should call kozak back up.

 

[Fezzy126]

I can't believe it's even news that Dahlin is pissed off about this shitty season. He should be, he's the captain, this is his team, and he's taking ownership and responsibility of the group's performance.

It would be news if he was happy with the team's performance as their captain and leader. The social media brigade would have their pitchforks out demanding he turn in his letter if he was smiling on the bench while we stumbled down the standings.

 

[toddkaz]

Dahlin has more incentive to lie than Biz ....bwahahahahahahaha

Just a coincidence that Biz is dropping this a day before Buffalo plays on TnT .. right Doug.

Dahlin is going to deny it whether he said it or not....its a bit of an issue if someone says,"See Dahlin said its not true!"

Whether its true or not I don't think it matters. I think its great the media and fans are talking about it. It puts the spotlight where it belongs. On Kevyn Adams.

I also like Dahlin's response. He didn't mince words.

 

[OkimLom]

Dahlin is going to deny it whether he said it or not....its a bit of an issue if someone says,"See Dahlin said its not true!"

Whether its true or not I don't think it matters. I think its great the media and fans are talking about it. It puts the spotlight where it belongs. On Kevyn Adams.

I also like Dahlin's response. He didn't mince words.

The problem, is that it’s very easy for the media to spin Dahlin into not wanting to be in Buffalo, which people are quick to jump on, especially if Paul goes on TV and keeps the narrative of what he said going, and then the damage is done, even if Paul walks it back. Then whether Dahlin said it or not, doesn’t matter anymore because people generally don’t have the media literacy patience to ingest information.

It’s why pundits and podcasters need to be careful with what they say annd understand the weight of what they say to an audience, and fact check things, which based on the tone of Paul’s comments were surely not looked into. He very much is reading into whatever he heard from a 3rd hand source, due to his “apparently…” use at the beginning.

 

[SundherDome]

We don't have cap space. I would kick the tires on any good UFA that could come our way, but we're going to have to figure out some of our players to have a cap.

We have the cap space for sure to throw good money at him. Could have even more sending out Lafferty and Peterka and tossing Samuelsson in on a Peterka trade.

 

[toddkaz]

Has Bernard-Docker got his visa in order for the next game? Was excited to see him play.

They really need to move the trade deadline to a Monday.

 

[Ehran]

The problem, is that it’s very easy for the media to spin Dahlin into not wanting to be in Buffalo, which people are quick to jump on, especially if Paul goes on TV and keeps the narrative of what he said going, and then the damage is done, even if Paul walks it back. Then whether Dahlin said it or not, doesn’t matter anymore because people generally don’t have the media literacy patience to ingest information.

It’s why pundits and podcasters need to be careful with what they say annd understand the weight of what they say to an audience, and fact check things, which based on the tone of Paul’s comments were surely not looked into. He very much is reading into whatever he heard from a 3rd hand source, due to his “apparently…” use at the beginning.

Yup. I'd hate to see the fans turn on Dahlin. He's one of the few that seems to give a damn.

Please don't run him out of town!