The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[truthbluth]

Or, hear me out, and I know this seems so out there; this is just how Kevyn manages his cap and his timeline is different than the fans, and Pegula has agreed to it as he trusts Kevyn. If Pegula is in it for the long haul, what's the rush in Pegula's eyes for creating what he has been convinced of, will be a long term stable organization.

By the time the youth movement reaches its apex, Thompson, Tuch and maybe even Dahlin will be on the downside of their careers.

 

[OkimLom]

By the time the youth movement reaches its apex, Thompson, Tuch and maybe even Dahlin will be on the downside of their careers.

And if that happens, then that is an indictment of the incompetency on Adam's ability to execute his plan.

I was just touching upon the claims from posters of what they say is happening, and I haven't seen any observable evidence of their claims to be the case.

 

[Tatanka]

I'm not saying it's a smart idea or supporting said decision.

Didn’t say you were. Just pointing out that while you might be correct, the emperor is still naked and his fashionista is the only one he trusts to tell him how good he looks. Not a good place for the organization

 

[Tijuana Donkey Show]

I would assert that Kim‘s presence makes no difference to their spending. Terry was out of big spendingonce they bought the NFL team. That was before Kim‘s health crisis. She was still president of the whole Kit N Caboodle at that point.

Lets not forget that she was the one who presented the "Maintain Family Lifestyle" as aPSE pillar to a room full of PSE employees.


(I don't mean to kick her while she is down. It is just a relevant piece the Sabres spending story)

 

[Chainshot]

By the time the youth movement reaches its apex, Thompson, Tuch and maybe even Dahlin will be on the downside of their careers.

This is the same sort of thinking that had people justifying dealing away Ryan O'Reilly who (shockingly) is still a very good hockey player 7 years later.

 

[truthbluth]

This is the same sort of thinking that had people justifying dealing away Ryan O'Reilly who (shockingly) is still a very good hockey player 7 years later.

My conclusion here a quite the opposite. Need to bring in veterans.

 

[Ehran]

Plus, Kim reportedly had a nickname in the building that was about firing people, so yeah...

Oh come on.... you can't post something like this and then leave us hanging!!

Dish it already!!!!

 

[Chainshot]

Oh come on.... you can't post something like this and then leave us hanging!!

Dish it already!!!!

By her own comments here - Bills, Sabres co-owner Kim Pegula: Impact of diversity felt throughout organizations

...it was "black widow".

 

[Ygo88]

Ignoring quinn, the draft part is still relevant for me because it highlights some intrinsic skillsets.

I thought cozens had hockey IQ issues before we even drafted him, so it's not simply a matter of hating on guys we pick (and I'll acknowledge this is my opinion, not universal truth). IMO it's his decision making that continues to ail him, and while the roster might not be giving him much help, he's sort of shown the same flaws for years which makes me think it's more than a roster issue.

A guy like Rossi isn't perfect. Smaller than cozens, not as fast, probably not as aggressive, but I think there's a chance that he could have a more positive impact on this team, because I think he's smarter. Again, his intelligence is a reputation preceding his draft. I think it could be an inherent strength which could be useful on this team. Of course, being on a better team with better linemates will help hide his weaknesses and highlight strengths, I just don't think thats the only explanation of the difference between the two players.

The Cozens pick was fine (top 10 on every list)! And he is a fine player and will be a good power forward in the league. He was rushed to the NHL, because the roster is garbage, like it is every year. That is why Benson is in the NHL now. Rossi and Quinn were both older draftees (which along with stature drew the question marks) with strong skating and high IQ. Rossi has always been considered a true Center, not sure if that is the point of the debate or not???

Root Cause: Crappy roster/No depth = young guys on team and not developing properly. That is why Cozens was on the roster so young. That is why Benson is on the roster now (last year notwithstanding) - and I love what Benson brings, but at what cost to his development???

 

[Chainshot]

I’m assuming there’s no talk of McCann because of the limited NTC? He is an Ontario guy so maybe there’s a chance. I realize he isn’t a true center but he’s the kind of veteran presence we need regardless.

McCann is almost always a left winger though. The Jets reporter tweeting out about him playing center seems like a rare, situational occurrence, not the norm.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Or, hear me out, and I know this seems so out there; this is just how Kevyn manages his cap and his timeline is different than the fans, and Pegula has agreed to it as he trusts Kevyn. If Pegula is in it for the long haul, what's the rush in Pegula's eyes for creating what he has been convinced of, will be a long term stable organization.

I believe that KA already stated that he thought the team was in a "win-now" mode. He's not thinking the team is still in a build up mode, and that he just needs time if Pegula is willing to wait him out. Obviously any team is building to some extent every season, but KA said it himself that it was time to win. Between Pegula limiting his options, and KA responding with a heavy youth movement (if not a complete youth movement) that he believes can still compete under those "efficient" guidelines, the entire organization has totally failed at assessing the roster.

I sat here pissing off most of this board last summer saying TT and Cozens were not good enough to be the top-six Cs (in response to the Mitts trade). Most if not all of this board has posted the need for a top-four RHD and more defensive D-men in general for at least three years. Many of us including me posted that Levi needed time in Rochester. A collection of random internet hockey fans have been more accurate in assessing the roster than KA et al. The depths of the incompetence go beyond KA's lack of knowledge and experience, into an organization-wide plan to operate at low expense. I think it's time that the vast majority of Sabres fans stop trying to ignore and waive away what is very painful to have to admit. They're a joke franchise now, run by a joke owner, that has hired joke front office personnel for all the wrong reasons.