The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Deep Blue Metallic]

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I went over to the Canucks board and they think their GM is all about acquiring Byram as the 2 to Quinn.

Not picking on you in particular, but "Over on the fill-in-the-blank-team's board they're saying ..." is a very questionable rationale I see posted all the time. In this specific case, they just need to wait on Hronek, who is the perfect complement to Quinn.

For the record, Mitts for Byram was a great hockey trade that has hurt the Sabres big time. I like Bo - he knows hockey ;-). But if he wants out, it's absolutely him traded over Power. I can live quite happily with a top-4 anchored by Dahlin and Power.

And a GM who can find partners to complement them.

Oh ya, and if Byram insists on being *the guy* on D, Vancouver is among the worst possible landing spots.

 

[Fjordy]

Not picking on you in particular, but "Over on the fill-in-the-blank-team's board they're saying ..." is a very questionable rationale I see posted all the time. In this specific case, they just need to wait on Hronek, who is the perfect complement to Quinn.

For the record, Mitts for Byram was a great hockey trade that has hurt the Sabres big time. I like Bo - he knows hockey ;-). But if he wants out, it's absolutely him traded over Power. I can live quite happily with a top-4 anchored by Dahlin and Power.

And a GM who can find partners to complement them.

Oh ya, and if Byram insists on being *the guy* on D, Vancouver is among the worst possible landing spots.

On the other hand, they need a guy who moves the puck on the second pair and Byram is their local guy.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

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[Deep Blue Metallic]

On the other hand, they need a guy who moves the puck on the second pair and Byram is their local guy.

Byram wants to be *the guy* - 1st pair, PP1 minutes.

It's not happening, with the Sabres or the Canucks.

 

[Fjordy]

Byram wants to be *the guy* - 1st pair, PP1 minutes.

It's not happening, with the Sabres or the Canucks.

Where does this happen? He also has no NTC/NMC.

Or maybe his agent said this on purpose, just to get out of the city safely.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

Where does this happen? He also has no NTC/NMC.

Or maybe his agent said this on purpose, just to get out of the city safely.

I don't get it.

You said this ... "they need a guy who moves the puck on the second pair and Byram is their local guy".

Afaic keep Dahlin, Power, and Byram.

 

[Fjordy]

I don't get it.

You said this ... "they need a guy who moves the puck on the second pair and Byram is their local guy".

Afaic keep Dahlin, Power, and Byram.

Well, they need a player like that.

Who? Afaic?

 

[Chainshot]

Mike Rasmussen.

I'm curious what the offer is going to be. At least Rasmussen has grown his game from the era when he was considered a bust.

 

[Fjordy]

I'm curious what the offer is going to be. At least Rasmussen has grown his game from the era when he was considered a bust.

I suggested Samuelsson for Rasmussen on their board and they seemed to agree.

 

[Der Jaeger]

This is so goofy. Just because young players make mistakes does not mean they have poor hockey IQ.

Have you seriously ever watched EP40, Zegras, or McTavish play? It's the same stuff. EP40 has had a ton of blunders recently. That doesn't mean he has poor hockey IQ.

Now we're comparing Tage/Peterka/Power to Ristolainen? There's not much to say. Can't really take you seriously.

My son plays high level hockey and my daughter plays in college. Hockey games are on all my TVs all the time in my house. I’ve seen all those guys play tons of times.

It’s not just “he made a bad pass.” It’s positioning for puck support and knowing how to anticipate where to be in puck support. That’s literally the single most important trait a center can have. It’s why Ruff said what he did.

It’s also the hockey IQ to know what to do with the puck. Thompson and Peterka constantly make poor puck choices that derail opportunities. It’s maddening, and it’s happened under two coaches now. It’s the player.

Conversely, you almost never see Benson just give the puck away, or over handle, or move the puck in a way that screws up a scoring chance. It’s because he’s a smart, smart player.

Not picking on you in particular, but "Over on the fill-in-the-blank-team's board they're saying ..." is a very questionable rationale I see posted all the time. In this specific case, they just need to wait on Hronek, who is the perfect complement to Quinn.

For the record, Mitts for Byram was a great hockey trade that has hurt the Sabres big time. I like Bo - he knows hockey ;-). But if he wants out, it's absolutely him traded over Power. I can live quite happily with a top-4 anchored by Dahlin and Power.

And a GM who can find partners to complement them.

Oh ya, and if Byram insists on being *the guy* on D, Vancouver is among the worst possible landing spots.

Posters on the Canucks board are talking about their GM, not their own preference. I think it’s from local reporting but I haven’t looked.

 

[Jim Bob]

My son plays high level hockey and my daughter plays in college. Hockey games are on all my TVs all the time in my house. I’ve seen all those guys play tons of times.

It’s not just “he made a bad pass.” It’s positioning for puck support and knowing how to anticipate where to be in puck support. That’s literally the single most important trait a center can have. It’s why Ruff said what he did.

It’s also the hockey IQ to know what to do with the puck. Thompson and Peterka constantly make poor puck choices that derail opportunities. It’s maddening, and it’s happened under two coaches now. It’s the player.

Conversely, you almost never see Benson just give the puck away, or over handle, or move the puck in a way that screws up a scoring chance. It’s because he’s a smart, smart player.

Posters on the Canucks board are talking about their GM, not their own preference. I think it’s from local reporting but I haven’t looked.

We have seen multiple goals against in the past week because Benson made poor decisions with the puck, turned it over, it goes the other way, and ends up in the back of the Sabres net.

One of them was Benson trying to stickhandle through three guys as opposed to just chipping it deep and chasing it.

The funk with this team runs deep and rushing Benson to the NHL is just one example of it, IMO.

 

[TommyDangles]

My son plays high level hockey and my daughter plays in college. Hockey games are on all my TVs all the time in my house. I’ve seen all those guys play tons of times.

It’s not just “he made a bad pass.” It’s positioning for puck support and knowing how to anticipate where to be in puck support. That’s literally the single most important trait a center can have. It’s why Ruff said what he did.

It’s also the hockey IQ to know what to do with the puck. Thompson and Peterka constantly make poor puck choices that derail opportunities. It’s maddening, and it’s happened under two coaches now. It’s the player.

Conversely, you almost never see Benson just give the puck away, or over handle, or move the puck in a way that screws up a scoring chance. It’s because he’s a smart, smart player.

Posters on the Canucks board are talking about their GM, not their own preference. I think it’s from local reporting but I haven’t looked.

> I’ve seen all those guys play tons of times.

If this was true you'd never include those players in your suggestion. They have the same issues.

> It’s not just “he made a bad pass.” It’s positioning for puck support and knowing how to
anticipate where to be in puck support. That’s literally the single most important trait a center can have. It’s why Ruff said what he did.
> It’s also the hockey IQ to know what to do with the puck. Thompson and Peterka constantly make poor puck choices that derail opportunities. It’s maddening, and it’s happened under two coaches now. It’s the player.

The entire team is playing bad right now. There is plenty of film showing the opposite. These guys are some of the lone bright spots on the team.

> Conversely, you almost never see Benson just give the puck away, or over handle, or move the puck in a way that screws up a scoring chance. It’s because he’s a smart, smart player.

You definitely do lol. Seems like you just see what you want to see.