The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

yasky

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Trading a young guy at his lowest value is one of the dumbest things you can do. Teams are probably salivating for the Sabres to trade Cozens/Quinn/Peterka etc..

Get good players how? These guys suck & need to grow up, but they're getting good players back? Why are good teams trading their good players for that?

How are we adding 3-4 legit top 4 / top 6 guys lmao?

We never had a good team over the years because we keep trading young players away & restarting the process over and over again.

How about we just add to the team? Help out the young guys. Instead of being reactionary & trading away our struggling young guys for scraps?
Sure. Who's available? And how do you sell someone on joining this dumpster fire in the offseason?
 

Gras

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Our savioir is still sitting out there without a contract.

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Fjordy

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Trading a young guy at his lowest value is one of the dumbest things you can do. Teams are probably salivating for the Sabres to trade Cozens/Quinn/Peterka etc..

Get good players how? These guys suck & need to grow up, but they're getting good players back? Why are good teams trading their good players for that?

How are we adding 3-4 legit top 4 / top 6 guys lmao?

We never had a good team over the years because we keep trading young players away & restarting the process over and over again.

How about we just add to the team? Help out the young guys. Instead of being reactionary & trading away our struggling young guys for scraps?
I didn't say trade them for a low price, and I didn't say trade them all. Look for hockey trades, stop coddling them, we haven't accomplished anything that way in years. When have we traded young players and they broke through on other teams? Eichel, Reinhart, that doesn't count, they weren't young anymore and we didn't need to start another rebuild that's been going on for five years.

I bet some of them will bring back good players, we need to get older and more experienced, we have too many young players in the line up.

Trades, like other teams do. Like Florida, Caps, Devils, Canes and other good teams do. We have assets, we have a lot of futures.

No, that's not true, we haven't traded young players, the last time was under Murray, when he just ruined all our futures and traded for the wrong players.

Well I'm all for it, but we need 3-4 good and legit top 6 and top 4 players, our defense sucks and we don't need three LDs PMD. We need to add two top 4 RDs who are good at defense and will play with Dahlin and one of Power/Byram. We don't have a 2C, we don't have another good top 6 wing. When these issues are fixed, maybe then the team will make the playoffs.
 

Ace

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I’d rather blow it up with a new GM than continue whatever the f*** this is. Rebuilding might have an end date. The Adams experiment will not.
 

Fjordy

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I’d rather blow it up with a new GM than continue whatever the f*** this is. Rebuilding might have an end date. The Adams experiment will not.
I agree, how much longer do we have to wait for this idiot to be fired? Terry seems to be happy with everything. ECONOMIC and EFFICIENT Kevin Adams continues to follow the great plan.
 

TommyDangles

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I didn't say trade them for a low price, and I didn't say trade them all. Look for hockey trades, stop coddling them, we haven't accomplished anything that way in years. When have we traded young players and they broke through on other teams? Eichel, Reinhart, that doesn't count, they weren't young anymore and we didn't need to start another rebuild that's been going on for five years.

I bet some of them will bring back good players, we need to get older and more experienced, we have too many young players in the line up.

Trades, like other teams do. Like Florida, Caps, Devils, Canes and other good teams do. We have assets, we have a lot of futures.

No, that's not true, we haven't traded young players, the last time was under Murray, when he just ruined all our futures and traded for the wrong players.

Well I'm all for it, but we need 3-4 good and legit top 6 and top 4 players, our defense sucks and we don't need three LDs PMD. We need to add two top 4 RDs who are good at defense and will play with Dahlin and one of Power/Byram. We don't have a 2C, we don't have another good top 6 wing. When these issues are fixed, maybe then the team will make the playoffs.
What do you think you're getting for guys at their lowest value? You can't just keep saying they suck & at the same time say "trade them for top 6 guys." Makes absolutely no sense. Why would a good team give up one of their core players for a young guy struggling?

Were Mitts, Montour, and Erod old when we traded them? Were Eichel, ROR, and Reinhart old? What do you mean?

Good teams don't trade away their promising young talent. That's a Sabres thing.
 

Fjordy

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What do you think you're getting for guys at their lowest value? You can't just keep saying they suck & at the same time say "trade them for top 6 guys." Makes absolutely no sense. Why would a good team give up one of their core players for a young guy struggling?

Were Mitts, Montour, and Erod old when we traded them? Were Eichel, ROR, and Reinhart old? What do you mean?

Good teams don't trade away their promising young talent. That's a Sabres thing.
This is a myth, where do you see a low price? Have you seen any offers? I bet there are GMs who will pay a good price for our players because some GM might like a certain player, plus everyone knows if a player struggles in Buffalo it doesn't mean anything. It could also be a package deal.

You said young players, meaning players like Quinn, Peterka, Cozens, Power for example. Mitts was good, he didn't struggle and we just traded him, although we should have kept him.

We are not a good team because we don't have enough good players and we need to get these good players somehow. You haven't offered any reasonable option and only whine that we shouldn't trade our players, this is silly, good luck with that.
 

debaser66

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They did not want to pay Mitts, and thought Cozens would be 2C. They flubbed it.
let him sink with his ship of stupidity. he also did nada last season to change course, could have fire Granato in December to send some kind of message, instead we got the sulking Okposo talk.

Marner may not be a franchise player but he brings something that this particular has lacked for a while. If they’d somehow agree to flip him for DC I’d carry the kid to Toronto on my back
I think if they do it they would also need to get their D in order. cannot pay Marner, Power and Bryam and still need a 2C.
 

debaser66

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Mitts was public enemy number 1 on these forums what are you talking about? When Mitts was struggling 2 years ago people wanted him gone for scraps. The same people wanting Cozens gone are the same people who wanted UPL/Mitts gone. Both those guys turned it around here soon after.

You essentially want to repeat the cycle of developing our young guys & trading them away because they struggle at 23 years old. Then you wonder why we suck.

We've just been a farm team for other organizations. I want to do the opposite for a change. I want to keep the young guys we developed.

"Look for hockey trades to shake up this roster, they're not going anywhere with this players."

Yea heard the same stuff about our last core that has won multiple cups already.
I was for Mitts and never faltered but I gladly see Cozens gone.
Also you cannot compare the trajectory of these 2 players.
Mitts never had a season like Cozens and faltered, he continually improved after being forced into the lineup in the Boterill era.
Also 2 years ago was Mitts best season, basically his breakout year, its also the same season Cozens had his only sign of life.
 

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