The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Fjordy]

Kreider worked with Ruff before in Rangers, so they know each other. I would also like to point out that the presence of Dahlin, Byram and Power makes Kreider a very dangerous weapon in front of the net, although he was able to handle that with the Rangers.

 

[Chainshot]

Some impressive numbers for his speed and shot areas still --

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.

edge.nhl.com

 

[dickiedunnwrotethis]

How would you compare him to Byram, who is already playing as the top pair RD? He’s only 2 and half years older, higher prospect pedigree, already a Stanley cup winner, and I believe is top 3 on the league in evenstrength scoring for defensmen.

I think we have that role filled with Byram?

Plus, I think we already have THREE players on the team with serious top pairing potential, which I already believe is more than any other team in the league. I don’t think we need four.

Exactly.

We need to separate needs from wants. We need a vet RD who can slip into our top 4 and give Power the defensive help he desperately needs. We need a 2C with hockey IQ who can distribute to his wingers and in a pinch can play on the top line when Tage is out. Given our current circumstances (fighting for a playoff spot and being the youngest team in the league) getting a RD prospect is, in my opinion, a want.

When our needs are met, then fine, go looking for that cherry on the cake.

 

[CowbellConray]

Kreider worked with Ruff before in Rangers, so they know each other. I would also like to point out that the presence of Dahlin, Byram and Power makes Kreider a very dangerous weapon in front of the net, although he was able to handle that with the Rangers.

We saw how much our PP improved when Zucker took on the net front spot. Kreider taking that role and Zucker on PP2 would be a really nice layout.

In addition, Kreider working on a line with Cozens and Benson would be a really solid grind second line with plenty of scoring touch

 

[Fjordy]

I think we can add all the parts (top 4 RD, Kreider, Jiricek), I'm a maximalist.

 

[CowbellConray]

I think we can add all the parts (top 4 RD, Kreider, Jiricek), I'm a maximalist.

Jiricek doesnt entice me too much - I think he is all athlete no brain. If it was a one for one for Rosen maybe it's a discussion, but I think he was overdrafted.

A top 4 D and Kreider though.... that would be a HUGE step for this team.

 

[Weltschmerz]

They want to send a message to their team. That's it.

They're not trading Kreider or Trouba. I think they would trade Trouba, but only if they could replace him with something better, which i doubt is going to happen.

Trouba will be gone 100%, he almost was gone last offseason.

They need his cap to pay the goalie and multiple RFAs plus Lindgren or replacement.

I think we can add all the parts (top 4 RD, Kreider, Jiricek), I'm a maximalist.

I'd much rather keep Zucker than add Kreider and lose Zucker after the season.

 

[Fjordy]

Jiricek doesnt entice me too much - I think he is all athlete no brain. If it was a one for one for Rosen maybe it's a discussion, but I think he was overdrafted.

Well, I would throw the nets when such a player is available. I like Jiricek.

I'd much rather keep Zucker than add Kreider and lose Zucker after the season.

What's stopping you re-signing Zucker, even with Kreider on the team?

 

[old kummelweck]

As a tangent, I would love it if Rosen lights it up over the next few games because A) Rochester's scoring has evaporated without him and B) it could push his value more if the scoresheet production matches the eye test. And that pumps his value to land someone else.

I know he hasn't had a lot, and they've always been challenging circumstances, but I'd be more sold on Rosen if he actually did something when he puts on a Sabres jersey.

 

[Deep Blue Metallic]

I don’t want Jiricik. Yes he’s a prospect right now but he should be up in the NHL at some point next year. Why are we trying to break in a prospect next year into our top 4 that is already made up of young players? He’s not a good partner for Power (why does Owen power need to be the vet on his pairing?). Or are wanting to have him be a third pairing guy with no power play time?

I don’t see how he fits in on this team the next few years. I don’t want a rookie in our top 4 next year. It’s the opposite of what should be done to the top 4. And frankly, I don’t want a rookie in the third pairing either—which should be getting defensive zone minutes.

Really don't know where this Jiricek fixation is coming from, other than he's a high pick RHD who might be available.

Sure, he'd be a nice add *as a prospect*. But he can't even crack the CBJ roster. We need a *veteran* top-4 RHD.

Broken record time - the youngest team in the league won't improve by getting even younger.

 

[Fjordy]

Really don't know where this Jiricek fixation is coming from, other than he's a high pick RHD who might be available.

Sure, he'd be a nice add *as a prospect*. But he can't even crack the CBJ roster. We need a *veteran* top-4 RHD.

Broken record time - the youngest team in the league won't improve by getting even younger.

Why can't you get both if you have the assets to do so? Although now it is much easier to get Jiricek than the top 4 RD.

 

[Weltschmerz]

Well, I would throw the nets when such a player is available. I like Jiricek.

What's stopping you re-signing Zucker, even with Kreider on the team?

Capspace? You always say you are not sure if Bayram will even be on the team next season. JJ needs a new contract, others as well, Skinner buyout we can't keep everyone and add Kreider and a top 4 defenseman.

 

[Fjordy]

Capspace? You always say you are not sure if Bayram will even be on the team next season. JJ needs a new contract, others as well, Skinner buyout we can't keep everyone and add Kreider and a top 4 defenseman.

I'm not sure about Byram not because of the cap, but because of Adams. I think told me that we'll have 32 million available, plus the cap is constantly growing very strongly.

 

[ValJamesDuex]

I think we can add all the parts (top 4 RD, Kreider, Jiricek), I'm a maximalist.