The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

I shudder writing this…

With Trotz saying “be better, or rebuild time…”

ROR would be the perfect player to trade for. They would want futures. He’s like the the perfect target, except that “I lost my love for hockey in Buffalo” thing…

 

[Zman5778]

I shudder writing this…

With Trotz saying “be better, or rebuild time…”

ROR would be the perfect player to trade for. They would want futures. He’s like the the perfect target, except that “I lost my love for hockey in Buffalo” thing…

That was an idle threat that was stated for the purpose of hyperbole. There is zero way that Nashville blows it up for AT LEAST 2 years, given the resources they sunk this summer.

 

[Fjordy]

I shudder writing this…

With Trotz saying “be better, or rebuild time…”

ROR would be the perfect player to trade for. They would want futures. He’s like the the perfect target, except that “I lost my love for hockey in Buffalo” thing…

Trotz probably said that to push all these veterans to play better. I doubt he's going to rebuild after 12 games and signing so many UFAs this summer.

Pettersson
Kadri
Granlund
Nelson
Barzal
Zegras (Yeah, I know)

 

[Gras]

Do not take the fact that there is a segment out there now calling itself "Sports Science" as some Holy Bible. It is a business out to make money and to convince the powers that be in Sports that they are needed.

The Science is never settled. We grew up thinking the Food Pyramid was a good thing.. we grew up thinking Pluto was a planet.

They should be going hard in practice.

TBF the only reason they changed Pluto from a planet was because the Euros were upset that it was discovered by an American.

 

[SabresFanNorthPortFL]

Still doesn’t change the fact that he’d be perfect for us right now slotted in that 2c

 

[Jim Bob]

I competed in a different sport internationally and lived at the Olympic Training Center for a number of years. Not hockey but I can weigh in a little bit.

Physiology is real and it is very much a thing. Sports science should certainly be adheread to.

But if we are talking about a team that has had multiple players say that they went to much better teams and practices are way harder, I don't think fans need to be careful about saying "practice harder" and don't need to worry about burn out.

Also these guys are top shelf athletes, they can handle a hard practice two days before a game. Sure you don't want to blow their legs off the morning of. But lets say they are on a schedule where they play Monday, have Tuesday and Wednesday off, then play Thursday, these guys can have a really hard practice Wednesday and recover.

For reference, a mid distance runner who spends their entire life preparing to try and win the Olympics. Working towards one day down the track, will likely go for a 60-90 minute run at least once per day, often twice. Some days will be significant work days. All while they are actively competing at the Olympics. Also, it is fairly common to train through events leading up to the Olympics while expecting to compete at a high level.

NHL players can handle hard practices.

I was replying to this statement:

IMO, they need a Ruff sized boot in the ass. And keep it there. Keep giving them the "hardest practices we've ever seen since we started covering the Sabres", keep sitting guys that are going through the motions for smarter, hungrier players. Set the standard high and don't reward them unless everyone is playing there.

I was not speaking against reasonable hard and intense practices.

I was speaking against consistently "the hardest practices we've ever seen." Especially if people are talking about high volume practices on a consistent basis.

Intensity > Volume

 

[Jim Bob]

Do not take the fact that there is a segment out there now calling itself "Sports Science" as some Holy Bible. It is a business out to make money and to convince the powers that be in Sports that they are needed.

The Science is never settled. We grew up thinking the Food Pyramid was a good thing.. we grew up thinking Pluto was a planet.

They should be going hard in practice.

Intensity in practice is a good thing. Excessive volume in practice that does not allow the team to be sharp in games, is not.

I think this is correct in general. But when you have a team that is still playing “summer hockey”, and quite frankly has played lackadaisical for years I think the balance tilts a little bit.

The benefit of getting their butts kicked in practice and practicing hard for a while might be worth it. Also, we have the youngest team in the NHL. If anybody can handle it, they should.

They talked about how hard the camp practices were. And they have been flat to start the season.

It likely needs to be more than "the bag skates will continue until performance improves."

 

[Dreakon13]

I was replying to this statement:



I was not speaking against reasonable hard and intense practices.

I was speaking against consistently "the hardest practices we've ever seen." Especially if people are talking about high volume practices on a consistent basis.

Intensity > Volume

I mean, it depends. The hardest practice a reporter for the Sabres has seen since they started following the team (which is what I was referencing) for a notoriously underprepared, lackadaisical team that the league views as playing summer hockey in the middle of a 14-year playoff drought... might just be closer to a regular practice for professional athletes playing in the highest, most competitive hockey league in the world, and okay to do a little more often. Or all the time.

 

[Jim Bob]

I mean, it depends. The hardest practice a reporter for the Sabres has seen since they started following the team (which is what I was referencing) for a notoriously underprepared, lackadaisical team that the league views as playing summer hockey in the middle of a 14-year playoff drought... might just be closer to a regular practice for professional athletes playing in the highest, most competitive hockey league in the world, and okay to do a little more often. Or all the time.

Hard is not the best word to describe pro practices, IMO.

I prefer intense and competitive more.

I also think smart, competitive practices focused on improving areas that are constantly hurting them in games is way more important than bag skates.

 

[Dreakon13]

Hard is not the best word to describe pro practices, IMO.

I prefer intense and competitive more.

I also think smart, competitive practices focused on improving areas that are constantly hurting them in games is way more important than bag skates.

Overanalyzing the word a little bit. Hard, intense, competitive... if they practice at the pace they need to play, they'll play at the pace they need to win.

They need more intensity AND to focus on improving specific areas.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

It's a such a joke that the Sabres have $7 M in cap room and now are looking to add in season when it will cost them more. Just a failure. Another example of why they have missed 13 years.