Prospect Info: The 2024-2025 Prospect Thread: Part 1: Skate or Die!

[orcatown]

Getting the vibe that the quality of center (or at least the type of center) Alriksson plays with is going to matter.

 

[ManVanFan]

Goal for Alriksson on the pp from Luchanko pass. Right now 6 goals 9 assists for 15 pts in 17 games

Guelph look tired playing yesterday on the road

 

[BluesyShoes]

Every time I think BU has gotten over the jitters to finally win a weekend series opening game then they disappoint me

I liked Willanders defending on this goal. great stick defending the pass to the slot, all to the outside.

his franking teammates all collapse beneath the Hashes puck watching instead of picking up a guy. He has his defender. Everybody else? not so much

Good lord that's awful, basically have all 5 guys keyed in on the puck carrier lol.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Jfc Alriksson’s massive.

 

[VanJack]

Somebody tell me again why Arliksson's nickname in Guelph is 'Rickey Bobby'? Is he a Will Ferrell look-a-like or something?

 

[Vector]

Somebody tell me again why Arliksson's nickname in Guelph is 'Rickey Bobby'? Is he a Will Ferrell look-a-like or something?

Al"rik"sson so "rik" = Ricky

That then becomes Ricky Bobby.

 

[JT Milker]

Underrated aspect of Alriksson’s game is that his eyebrows look like Jim Benning’s after a fresh coat of just for men.

 

[ManVanFan]

Lucas Forsell 1g 1a in today's game. Heating up lately. Up to a .5 PPG in the SHL playing some very limited minutes. Plays on avg 12 ish minutes a game. He's just turned 21. Skates well, forechecks hard, physical. Not quite sure he's got enough offence to take it to the next level. I hope they give him a shot in NA at the end of year.

At 21 Nils Aman had 14 points in 51 games in the SHL.

The Swedish winger version of Max Sasson. Lol.

Dave has his goal.

 

[Breakers]

Also Willander is going over to Ireland for a weekend series

I thought games this far were off limits since covid

But Harvard and notre dame are joining them and merrimack

 

[ManVanFan]

Dorrington!

 

[Lindgren]

Dorrington!

Elaborate!

 

[ManVanFan]

Elaborate!

He scored! BUT.... he did it against probably the best goalie in the NCAA. From the little I've watched him this year, he is playing well.
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I don't know how a goalie with the draft numbers he had would make it to the 3rd round. Mtl lucky.

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[Lindgren]

He scored! BUT.... he did it against probably the best goalie in the NCAA. From the little I've watched him this year, he is playing well.
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I don't know how a goalie with the draft numbers he had would make it to the 3rd round. Mtl lucky.

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Thanks. (I think that when I replied with "elaborate" the video hadn't shown up.) Much appreciated.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

Do we sell high?

 

[VanJack]

Do we sell high?

Bizarre as it might have seem if you'd said it a few years ago, today I have almost complete faith in the Canucks amateur scouting staff.

If they concluded that kids like Wilander, D-Petey, Kudryavtsev and Mynio were better NHL prospects than Brzustewicz........then I defer to them.

But still a decent gamble for the Flames who were losing Lindholm anyway.

 

[IComeInPeace]

If they concluded that kids like Wilander, D-Petey, Kudryavtsev and Mynio were better NHL prospects than Brzustewicz........then I defer to them.

It’s not fair to say our managment staff concluded that all of those guys were better prospects than him.

It’s also not fair to judge a prospect on his first 18 games in the AHL.

I’d bet most of us (and I’m guaranteeing you in particular) would be defending him if he started with those stats in Abby as a 20 YO Canucks prospect.

I think it helps to be objective and gives you credibility.

Yes he’s struggled in his first 18 games.
Not a great sign, but given his age writing him off already would be grossly infair.

I’d venture a guess Calgary asked for Willander and knew they weren’t getting him.

They then probably valued Brzu as our 2nd best prospect (perhaps Pettersson was 2nd at that point but I doubt it); our management probably didn’t want to trade Brzu (for all you know they could have said take Pettersson instead) but thought the deal and player was worth it.

 

[VanJack]

It’s not fair to say our managment staff concluded that all of those guys were better prospects than him.

It’s also not fair to judge a prospect on his first 18 games in the AHL.

I’d bet most of us (and I’m guaranteeing you in particular) would be defending him if he started with those stats in Abby as a 20 YO Canucks prospect.

I think it helps to be objective and gives you credibility.

Yes he’s struggled in his first 18 games. Not a great sign, but given his age writing him off already wouldn’t be fair.

I’d venture a guess Calgary asked for Willander and knew they weren’t getting him.
They then probably valued Brzu as our 2nd best prospect (perhaps Pettersson was 2nd at that point but I doubt it); our management probably didn’t want to trade Brzu (for all you know they could have said take Pettersson instead) but thought the deal and player was worth it.

What I think a lot of posters fail to understand about 'prospects' is that the team drafting them has a far bigger 'book' on them than just their play in the CHL.

Brzustewicz would have attended their development camp; and I believe he would also have played in their Prospects Tournament in Penticton. And they'd have monitored all aspects of his game in Kitchener over the better part of two seasons.

So if they decided he was expendable in the Lindholm trade, then clearly they're betting on the fact that he won't become an impact player in the NHL. Otherwise I doubt they'd have risked trading him to a division rival.

Could they all be wrong? Sure they could. Teams give up on young draft picks too early all the time....and they go elsewhere and make the team that traded them look bad.

But all I'm saying is that the Canucks amateur scouting staff probably felt that some of the other d-men they've drafted are further ahead.

And looking at the play of Elias Pettersson II and Kudryavtsev in Abbotsford; Wilander in the NCAA; and Mynio in the WHL, if they believe they're better prospects, then you have to given them the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Lindgren]

What I think a lot of posters fail to understand about 'prospects' is that the team drafting them has a far bigger 'book' on them than just their play in the CHL.

There you go again. Do you have any sense of how this comes off?

 

[RobertKron]

I know I definitely didn't realize the Canucks staff watched their own development camp. I'm floored, TBH.

 

[Hoglander]

Was waiting for someone to bring up HB's underwhelming point totals. At the time of the trade I had him lower than most, in the 5-8 range cuz I didn't think there was much to his game that projected well, despite his impressive Jr point totals.
It's obviously way too soon to write him off, but that is quite an underwhelming start for a guy whose game centers around puckmoving and offense. EP2 and Kud have adapted quicker, and if HB was still Canucks property, the HB thread would be dominated by talk of how he’s trending towards a bust. Certainly doesn't look like Fox or a 40 point Tanev like Flames fans were claiming... idiots.

And what's his nuts, the fin dman from the trade... I think he's stuck in the echl

 

[Lindgren]

Was waiting for someone to bring up HB's underwhelming point totals. At the time of the trade I had him lower than most, in the 5-8 range cuz I didn't think there was much to his game that projected well, despite his impressive Jr point totals.
It's obviously way too soon to write him off, but that is quite an underwhelming start for a guy whose game centers around puckmoving and offense. EP2 and Kud have adapted quicker, and if HB was still Canucks property, the HB thread would be dominated by talk of how he’s trending towards a bust. Certainly doesn't look like Fox or a 40 point Tanev like Flames fans were claiming... idiots.

And what's his nuts, the fin dman from the trade... I think he's stuck in the echl

Joni Jurmo. 8/2/4/6 with Rapid City. (Because you were dying to know.)

 

[Vector]

Joni Jurmo. 8/2/4/6 with Rapid City. (Because you were dying to know.)

The ECHL is that appropriate level for him.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Brz was a bust as soon as he was traded.

 

[bandwagonesque]

"Assured Collision" is an airball of a name for an automotive business

 

[VanJack]

I know I definitely didn't realize the Canucks staff watched their own development camp. I'm floored, TBH.

Casual fans 'watch' prospect development camp. NHL teams use it as a 'development tool'. At the end of the week I'm sure they do player assessments and sit down with the prospect and give him a list of things he has to improve on.

Maybe they gave Brzustewicz a similar assessment, but weren't satisfied with his progress. Who knows? Surely you have to give Canucks staff more credit than flippantly suggesting that you didn't know they actually watched their own development camp?