GDT: The 2023 NHL Entry Draft - Nashville, TN - 4:00pm (AZ) - ESPN, ESPN+
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They were both on my list. Maybe it’s because i pay attention to draft eligible prospects. After Wheeler’s shocking selection i have made it a point when there are tall players who have skill and skating rocketing up draft lists (like Pronman’s) late in the season. It’s one of the reasons why i was trying to fid out how many scouts the organization had physically located in Russia who could do the background work and who would be advocating for them when it came to assembling the final list.
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rt
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If this Ukraine disaster drags on for 20 years, is the IIHF planning on banning Russian hockey players from international competition the entire time? I feel like they didn’t think this through at all.
Llewzaher
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Honestly with amount of assets we acquired , and the amount of prospects we have , and the timeline, I think we could afford to not trade down a spot. I don’t think we needed to.
we all assume Philly wanted Leonard as back up, but we do not know that…
scocial media is full of speculation and not fact… heck social media thought we were taking Dvorsky or Reinbacher. The Phnx group thought we wanted Leonard.
I think we can assume going forward, especially when it comes to the draft, don’t believe anything you hear, especially when listening to the GM
I also think a lot of these rankings are misinformation as well. Some are to throw off teams, some likely offer their services to teams , some are political..and some are where they think they will be picked based on who is picking at that time..all my opinion of course
It would be interesting to go back to previous drafts and compare some of the rankings fro those that we all consider the experts, and see who was the closest in 1) where they were picked, and 2)how their careers panned out.
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BA was lying through his teeth about this draft the whole time and I love it. I learned a lesson about this group. They control the information that gets out and they establish the narratives they want.
Their public statements screamed Leonard, and behind the scenes they had everyone convinced it was Dvorsky or Reinbacher. Meanwhile we had Plandowski telling us that size doesn’t matter and they only cared about skill. And that this wasn’t a good draft for blueliners and next year was much stronger for that.
And yet they slyly told us all the whole time with a wink and a smirk to “expect the unexpected”.
Their public statements screamed Leonard, and behind the scenes they had everyone convinced it was Dvorsky or Reinbacher. Meanwhile we had Plandowski telling us that size doesn’t matter and they only cared about skill. And that this wasn’t a good draft for blueliners and next year was much stronger for that.
And yet they slyly told us all the whole time with a wink and a smirk to “expect the unexpected”.
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Llewzaher
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Nice post. Let' they ruin the Country and kill people as quick as they can just for rt was able to watch his beloved russians at WJC. Keep going man.
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Jagged Ice
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You should have seen our group reaction at Gilbert Ice when #6 was announced.
It was definitely a "What just happened?" moment.
BA and his scouts had us prepared for Leonard, Dvorsky, Reinbacher or even Benson. Moosemeister knew they were good friends and with the size and skill of these two, the shock wore off quickly for me and the picks were starting to make sense. I was high on But to begin with so it wasn't anything like my pissed off reaction after we took Hayton and Soderstrom. I'm really looking forward to these picks and happy we did what we did, even if there was a chance we could have traded back, but I don't think BA wanted to risk that. He had his guys with all the "expect the unexpected" talk.
I seem to recall a lot or most KHL games were on ESPN+ last season. If not, maybe it was the year before, so we might get to watch these guys starting early September when the KHL season starts in two short months.
honestly we all are wishing he traded back more because it would look like "we won" more so than needing the additional assets. How many 2nds and 3rds can we possibly have? I think we are all sick of AZ getting bad grades in the draft and FA so are a little shell shocked when we make a reach. But the group got plenty of love from the national media for their selections and even more from the signings yesterday.
Their parents do it. And they maybe too young to do it now.
Their role models do it. Did any ru hockey player condemn the war or putin? One of them, who sold his face to putin and took a prominent role in his election campaign now on verge to beat several NHL records. Nice. It's your choice, it's your heritage.
This conversation is complex and requires nuance and context. This really isn’t the place for it. It’s not as simple as, “Russia bad…NATO good.”
rt
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It's important to point out that should Russia suddenly be allowed back into IIHF too soon, there's always a risk of other countries boycotting it, such as Sweden or Finland.
Looking at fencing for example with Sweden boycotting it due to FIE allowing Russians to participate.
Looking at fencing for example with Sweden boycotting it due to FIE allowing Russians to participate.
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It was stupid to do it to begin with. Now they’re painted into a corner. Politics are stupid.
Yeah let’s punish regular people for the actions of their governments…seems like a great idea
Usually agree with you rt, but on the Ukraine thing, I'm fine if they are gone for 20 years. You could use your argument for everything that they are isolated from. Banking, exports and imports, and yes, sports. I don't want them to have sports to watch to distract from how horribly their war is going. I'd rather they focus completely on how their life is turned upside down for no reason at all. War is asymmetric. They're certainly happy to purposely target hospitals and children. I'm certainly fine if they can't watch their hockey team compete or buy an iPhone.
Arizonatah Coyetis
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Blame Putin for his actions, not the world for it's responses to them. Without some hardships and losses the people of Russia will never have incentive to pressure their government at home to change course. It's never been about "punishing" people. It's about incentivizing them.
So when we lied and unjustly went into Iraq and destroyed their entire infrastructure and killed civilians, should we have not been allowed to bank or watch our sports teams? No, because we all listened to what the tv said and didn’t ask questions and cheered it on. Don’t be a fool. Citizens are not responsible for what their corrupt self serving governments want to foist on them. Start thinking and stop consuming propaganda.
I come here for hockey talk but if you guys want to talk about a bunch of stuff you clearly don’t understand I’ll be happy to set you straight. Probably time to move on….
