GDT: The 2020 TDL Challenge Thread - stay the course or buy the horse?

[RangerBoy]

What do you do in 2.5 years when Mika's contract runs out? No way you can re-sign him for his worth now given the new cap restraints from the Kreider deal. The problem with this deal is the cascading affect it will have on future signing decisions. Do the math.

7 years/$63M for Mika coming soon. He is eligible to sign an extension on July 1,2021.

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

In fairness, I think you're being generous with at least three of those contracts (Lemieux, Fast, Strome, and ADA's might be the floor).

So that could be a total of $3million more than what you have listed, on top of the $4-5 million you want to shed. So now you're looking at $7 or-$8 million, and that's without getting any contracts back --- which makes actual upgrading a very real challenge.

Because now you're moving that money, not to actually shore up positions, but primarily because you need the cash. So that's going to be a very real challenge, with very real consequences.

Lundqvist retires duh! Lol

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Teams know now the Rangers have to move salary and not have a ton coming back to make next season work

No GM is going to do us any favors. GM's throw anchors not life rafts

 

[FIRE DRURY]

7 years/$63M for Mika coming soon.

You’re being generous.

7-70m.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Checking in here. What a day! Emotional to say the least.

If we werent going to get a big time prospect back for Kreider I've been on record as saying F it just sign him. Now no one gets him. I'd rather have Kreider than Jost, and I'm not a fan of the 7 years.

But saying that, other moves are going to be made. They need to be. There are going to be guys moved here that the "sign Kreider" crowd won't want to make that will have to be made. And god help him if he doesn't repeat this same performance next season.

Anyway, to the draft, because this season is cooked!

 

[Fitzy]

I still dont see a problem with cap. Assuming the cap is 83.5
ADA 4/5x5M
Strome 2x4M
Lemieux $1M
Fast 2.5M
Georgiev 2M
14M...

We need to find a way to shed $3M... 4-5M to be comfortable... We have 7.5M in dead cap money.

Skjei, Smith, Staal, HL and Buch need to be moved/cleared.

THIS IS NOT THE APOCALYPSE

It was never the immediate maneuvers that made this an issue- although it will take some clever tinkering to keep everyone.

It's the impact of this cap hit 3-4 years down the line, when players like Zibanejad, Kakko, Fox, ect are coming up for long term extensions that it's more of a concern.

But no, it was never going to be the apocalypse if we re-signed Kreider. It's just a strategic misstep in my eyes.

 

[I Eat Crow]

Teams know now the Rangers have to move salary and not have a ton coming back to make next season work

No GM is going to do us any favors. GM's throw anchors not life rafts

This was my concern exactly if Kreider was brought back. Gorton had less leverage now in trying to deal Skjei or Buchnevich now to make room.

 

[Avery16]

Barring the trade of an RFA for cap purposes, I don't think we'll really feel bad about that Kreider number until years 5-7

 

[WojtekWolski86]

I'm sure in 2022 we will have another lockout that will change the cap to a luxury tax system. Go over the luxury "cap" and your profits get distributed to salary floor teams.

 

[Jackpot]

There's numerous factors that contribute to what looks like a decline in that graph, please add on his projected stats by seasons end and see what it looks like...

 

[Edge]

Oh, so piece of cake.

I feel like I'd like to buy a house with some HF financial planning.

Applying for my mortgage would be fantastic.

"I'd like to take out a loan for $500k, please."

"Sure, what's your salary and debt situation."

"Oh no, don't worry about that. I'm fine if I can sell my current house, maybe a vehicle, and disown one of my kids. If not, no worries. I'll be fine so long as I can double my salary. Then it's smooth sailing."

"I'm sorry, I think you lost me. You want a 30 year housing loan?"

"Oh yeah, it's easy. I figure 30 years is plenty of time to work something out. I mean for Chrissakes, 30 years is like 2050! f*** it, I might be dead by then."

 

[NYSPORTS]

Absolutely this times 100. People around here fall in love with the notion of hitting a home run pick-- it almost never happens. Smart move keeping a known piece rather than falling for the dream of hitting that home run

smart move is managing your cap and sticking with a rebuild

 

[UnSandvich]

Gee, a player nearing 30 is already declining and will likely continue, especially now that he doesn't have contract year motivation? Whodathunkit? Certainly not the front office

 

[Matt Rentfree]

Good to here they still terminate people. I thought things were getting a bit soft. Expect a smaller trade coming

That was in 2001 when he was dying. Not sure it's the same now.

 

[mas0764]

Fantastic.

 

[Tawnos]

I'm sure in 2022 we will have another lockout that will change the cap to a luxury tax system. Go over the luxury "cap" and your profits get distributed to salary floor teams.

Thats not going to happen.

 

[TheBloodyNine]

Checking in here. What a day! Emotional to say the least.

If we werent going to get a big time prospect back for Kreider I've been on record as saying F it just sign him. Now no one gets him. I'd rather have Kreider than Jost, and I'm not a fan of the 7 years.

But saying that, other moves are going to be made. They need to be. There are going to be guys moved here that the "sign Kreider" crowd won't want to make that will have to be made. And god help him if he doesn't repeat this same performance next season.

Anyway, to the draft, because this season is cooked!

 

[WojtekWolski86]

Can we just swap the name on Skjei's contract to "Anthony DeAngelo" then trade Brady?

 

[NYSPORTS]

I feel like I'd like to buy a house with some HF financial planning.

Applying for my mortgage would be fantastic.

"I'd like to take out a loan for $500k, please."

"Sure, what's your salary and debt situation."

"Oh no, don't worry about that. I'm fine if I can sell my current house, maybe a vehicle, and disown one of my kids. If not, no worries. I'll be fine so long as I can double my salary. Then it's smooth sailing."

"I'm sorry, I think you lost me. You want a 30 year housing loan?"

"Oh yeah, it's easy. I figure 30 years is plenty of time to work something out. I mean for Chrissakes, 30 years is like 2050! f*ck it, I might be dead by then."

and they wonder why the mortgage crisis occurred and history would repeat itself if banks had their way.

hey, here is a million dollar mortgage and you only pay the interest!!!!! Want two? Refi and you can have three

 

[Ail]

Is it too early to make an Igor asleep at the wheel joke?

 

[Trxjw]

Ugh. Just had a flashback to 2005. Rangers land an elite winger and a young, elite goalie comes into the fold and suddenly they pull a 180 on the rebuild.

 

[Kakko]

Is it too early to make an Igor asleep at the wheel joke?

Feel like we're not getting the whole story here. Why was JD doing the presser? Clearly it was Grotons asleep at the wheel