There will be a Double-A Draft playoffs then.what??? there's no playoffs? what the ****?
Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey said:started career as a defenseman but moved to RW last year and flourished there... captained US Olympic hockey team in 1968... effective checker and was first moved up because of his ability in that department... but he turned into a pretty good scorer too... very popular player with fans... versatile... was voted club's top blueliner two years ago... one of North Stars' most popular players... also plays some RW... good team man adept at killing penalties of motivating sluggish PP...
With the #87 pick in A2010, The Broder's Annex Marauders are pleased to select:
Dennis Herron, G
I really flip flopped here. With my last chance to select a goalie in this draft, I wanted to make sure I was taking the best guy. I think I got him.
I started by looking at Billy Hague, but he was actually awful with a stacked Ottawa team, allowing many goals in cup matches that should have been easy and much more lopsided. I was set on Murray Bannerman, who had a couple good sv% finishes and was in two all-star games. But then Herron caught my eye. He doesn't have Bannerman's solid playoff record. But he did play 173 more regular season games and post even more impressive save percentages for a couple bad teams. I don't really care that he won two Jennings as that's a team award, but I will show you he was Montreal's best goalie when there. Herron's career was far from perfect, but he shone as an excellent "bad team goalie" and a decent "good team goalie".
His career basically had three phases:
1. The bad team phase.
I'll start in 1975 as Herron only played 23 games in the two seasons prior. He played just three games with Pittsburgh before heading to Kansas City. Newly-released sv% statistics show that Herron greatly outperformed his teammates, with a .896 sv%. The other two combined for a mark of .881.
Rightfully so, Herron took over as the starter for KC, and played the 4th-most minutes in the league. His .889 sv% was one point out of the top-10 and considerably greater than the combined mark of his understudies: .853. Think about that: .853!!!
Herron actually escaped back to Pittsburgh as a free agent, and though they were a decent team, they were a doormat compared to the titans in this imbalanced league. He played behind Dunc Wilson, but did outperform him from a sv% standpoint: .910 to .906. Herron was 5th in the NHL in sv% this year.
Much like in KC, his performance earned him the starter's role the following season. Herron played the 5th-most minutes in the NHL and posted a .901 sv%, the league's 8th-best. Where would the Pens have been without him? Well, with the other three Pittsburgh goalies combining for a .837 sv%, I'm guessing last overall.
1979 was another solid season. Herron played the 5th-most minutes in the league and posted the 9th-best sv%: .892. Understudy rookie Greg Millen performed OK, but not at Herron's level.
2. The good team phase.
Herron is a bit of a "fall guy" for this period. When people look back at the Habs of the early 1980s and their inability to keep the destiny going after Dryden's retirement, Herron is named as a culprit.
Now, this was a very strong defensive team that could boost its goalies' sv%, and I don't want to give Herron too much credit for finishing 1st in the NHL in sv% in both 1980 and 1982 while playing just the 2nd-most minutes in the team's rotation. But what I do want to give him credit for is that, on an aggregate level, he was Montreal's best goalie from 1979-1984:
Herron: 86 GP, .901
Rest of team: 260 GP, .887 (best was Sevigny's .894 in 101 GP)
I included the 1984 season for the larger sample size, though Herron was well into his last phase by then.
3. Another bad team phase.
Herron then went to the lowly pens to help them "earn" the right to draft Mario Lemieux. (He was traded for a draft pick that became A draft cut Nelson Emerson) His 1983 season was a complete write-off and we'll just leave it at that.
In 1984, however, Herron managed to post an .885 sv% for the league's worst team, good for 9th in the NHL. I think this is extremely impressive! Are there any comparables to this? I will find out for you shortly.
In 1985, he was getting old at 32, but kept pace with the Pens' team average at least.
During his 2nd Pens' tenure, they used the same 3 goalies all three full seasons that he played. How do you think he performed compared to them? I bet you already know.
Herron: .869
Rest of team: .862
OK, comparables. I looked at the period of 1973-1986, Herron's whole career. I took a look at all goalies who played 1800+ minutes in any given season. Herron had three of the 30 lowest win% seasons. (.330 or worse) - His 1976 season with Kansas City when he had a .889 sv%, is the highest posted by a bad team goalie in this 14-year period. His 1984 season with Pittsburgh (.885) was 4th, and the only time any goalie with a win% .330 or lower was top-10 in sv%. His 1985 was also a decent showing at 11th on the list, with an .875.
Other goalies to show up multiple times in this lowly-30 list and where their sv% ranked:
Herron: 1st, 4th, 11th
Meloche: 4th, 8th, 9th
Low: 27th, 28th, 29th
Plasse: 2nd, 14th
Millen: 15th, 24th.
One more number crunch: On this list, goalies other than Herron who had win% less than .330, had a combined sv% of .870. Herron's cumulative sv% in his 3 worst win% years? .884.
Herron's work did earn him some All-star recognition, but not in the years he probably deserved it most. He was 5th in 1980, 7th in 1976 (but with just 3 votes), and 9th in 1982 (but with just 2 votes) - In the heaviest platoon era, he consistently outperformed the other goalies on his team, all the way through his career. How much worse than Dan Bouchard is he? Was he just Gilles Meloche with less longevity?
The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1976 said:compiled a respectable 3.75 GAA with Scouts... "I want lots of work"... Coach Bep Guidolin: "He's an eager, aggressive kid."... Assistant GM Baz Bastien: "The kid has guts."... admits weaknesses include lack of concentration for full game, roaming from net and not controlling rebounds... style has been described as "semi-acrobatic".
The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1978 said:worked 34 games for Pittsburgh and was team's top goalie... In spite of suspect defense, Herron and Dunc Wilson carried bulk of goaltending and managed to finish 7th in team average... His size was what the Pens originally didn't like but they have since found that little guys can do a big job...
The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1979 said:with his slight build, Denis has trouble convincing people he really is an athlete... Scouts claimed he was too skinny to play for them... at one point they tried to build him up with a diet of milkshakes but he developed kidney stones... Herron says his weight presents no problem for him...
The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1980 said:admits to being more of a "flopper" who relies more on quick reflexes than positional goaltending... hard to believe the way this skinny athlete can scramble around the crease carrying 35+ pounds of equipment... a perrennially slow starter, he was challenged for the starting job by Greg Millen early and probably will be again...
The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1985 said:deserves Purple Heart for wounds received in action while playing for so many losing teams... 12-year veteran who endured many 50-shot games for Kansas City... faced an average of 32 shots a game last season... better goalie than his career 136-178-73 record shows.
The Complete Handbook Of Pro Hockey 1986 said:generally did not play as well last year as when the team was absolutely defenseless in front of him in 1983-84, but he had his moments... still the best the Penguins have...personable veteran of 12 NHL seasons...
seventieslord said:Dan McGillis kind of flew under the radar for a long time, but he had a pretty good career. Available icetime numbers show him to be a #3 defenseman for most of his career, usually on pretty good teams like the Flyers. McGillis led the league in hits one season, and when he got PP time, he proved his worth in the offensive zone by finishing in the top-15 among defensemen in points twice. He had good size – 6’3”, 220 lbs – and liked to use it. He was even 14th in Norris voting in 2001. In many ways he was a poor man’s Robert Svehla – just as physical, a little bigger, but not as good or consistent offensively.
http://forecaster.ca/hockeynews/hockey/player.cgi?2418He competes hard and is not afraid of the rough going. In fact, he enjoys stirring up opponents. Plays with both skill and confidence. Can both set up plays or finish them. Skates well and can line up at any forward position.
The Engineers draft Tuomo Ruutu
Also much more worthy of being drafted than his brother. He brings similar grinding and agitating abilities to the table, but to a lesser degree than Jarkko. But, his vastly superior offensive game more than makes up for that.
When the Colorado Rockies spent a lot of time and money to bring Tapio Levo to the NHL, many NHL scouts predicted he could be one of the very best European imports in league history. At 26 he was a veteran of European hockey. With his slick mobility and incredible puck skills, many felt that Levo would be as good as Finnish legend and Calgary Flame's all star. Pekka Rautakallio.
On the ice Levo felt at home. He had an impressive 9 goals and 22 points in just 24 games in his rookie season. The worst part was the 26 year old rookie suffered several various injuries that kept him out of half of the season.
Like many Finnish players of the early 1980s, Levo's stay in North America was short. Once his contract expired he bolted back to Europe and escaped the New Jersey swamp lands .He continued to play in his hometown with Assat Pori until the end of the decade.
D Marc Staal ]
HC Krylya select Alex Burrows RW
Always good to see a fellow Newfoundlander picked, Cleary has stepped up his career the past few seasons, next to Keith Brown Cleary is probably the best player this province has ever produced.
Great pick seventies with Nelson Emerson, I remember his case for being picked being argued last year a little, just a really good player. I was going to pick him today if he was still available.
HC Krylya select Jay McClement C
McClement is a solid all-around player who is also a great addition to our PK unit.He is also a great faceoff man , especially when shorthanded.
HC Krylya select: Karlis Skrastins D
HC Krylya Sovetov select: Dan Girardi D a good defensive defenseman playing insane minutes since the day he entered the league.He is currently playing 27 minutes a night on the Ranger squad.
The Engineers draft Gord Lane, a stay-at-home defenseman who was a three-time leader in PIMs for Washington, winning the most improved award from the franchise the year before the NYI signed him to bring a much needed grit and toughness to the back end ("the missing piece" coach Arbour would later say), so Lane became a role-playing contributor to a Stanley Cup dynasty playing the lion's share of all four cup postseason victories with significant playoff PIMs (set an NHL then-record number in the 1980 postseason, led the team in PIMs in two of the four cup-winning playoff years) and two decent regular season +/- seasons. He was paired with Langevin and at least one championship season with Morrow (1980-81). He actually scored 17 points in the four Stanley Cup postseasons, significant in showing he was on the ice throughout the dynasty years. If he had had more full regular seasons he'd have been drafted much earlier this year. But there's no mistaking his playoff role mixing things up on the blueline AND playing decent defensively! A quality role-playing third pairing defenseman! At worst he's a quality 6/7 guy for certain game situations.
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=13295
http://islanders.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=465544
http://pucknhockey.com/2010/08/15/nhl-alumni-scouting-report-gord-lane/
RW Pentti Lund and LW Andrew Ladd
208 points in 402GP
x2 SC Winner
Michigan Wolverines selects:
Tommy Albelin, D
HC Krylya Sovetov select Mario Lessard G ( yes another goalie , he finished 1st in wins and had a 2nd all-star team selection with the kings )
Backup Goalie Rick Wamsley
Rick Wamsley boasted a 204-131-46 career record during his NHL career, he ranks 66th all time in NHL wins.
More on Wamsley can be found here:
http://www.legendsofhockey.net/LegendsOfHockey/jsp/SearchPlayer.jsp?player=18405
The Engineers draft Jan Klapac, the right winger on the Holik brothers' line. Klapac played in seven world championships between 1964-1973, including the 1972 gold medal win over the Soviets. He represented Czechoslovakia in three Olympics, most notably scoring 15 points in 10 games in the 1972 Olympics, tying Holik and Nedomansky for the team lead. As well, he finished 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 6th in Czechoslovakian league scoring.
http://www.chidlovski.com/personal/1972/misc/cssrbiof.htm
C Matt Cullen and D Terry Carkner
x7 40 points
x1 SC
The versatile two-way center will center my fourth line and get time on the special teams. Cullen will see some PK time and possibly play point on the second PP. He should fit perfectly between two physical players in Ladd and Corrigan.
The rugged rearguard will play on my third pairing with Virta and see PK time. Virta was undersized and putting him with the tough Carkner should help him thrive. Terry's also a cousin of current Ottawa Sen Matt Carkner.
The Engineers select LW Randy Cunneyworth
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HC Krylya Sovetov select Paul Gaustad C , a tough gritty two-way center
with good leadership.
We pick:
Tim Cheveldae, G
Rick Zombo, D
HC Krylya Sovetov select Brooks Laich C/LW a player that can play center or wing , good defensively with good offensive numbers with some physical play.
Dennis Wideman D
Alan Haworth Centre and Doug Halward Defenseman
Some stats on Haworth:
- 4 50 point seasons
- 400 Points in 524 games
- Good 2 way player
More on Haworth can be found here:
http://washingtoncapitalslegends.blogspot.com/2008/03/alan-haworth.html
Doug Halward:
Some stats on Halward:
-293 points in 653 games
-2 Seasons with 50 or more points
-33 Career PP Goals
More on Halward can be found here:
http://canuckslegends.blogspot.com/2010/06/doug-halward.html
Boo I wanted Herron and Halward today.
G Wayne Stephenson and D Dan McGillis
x2 ASG
x1 SC Champ
x1 OG Bronze Medal, played in two additional WCs
Honoured Memeber of Manitoba Hockey HOF
x1 Top 10 GAA (4th)
634GP
20:44 TOI
Michigan selects:
Rich Pilon, D
Joey Kocur, RW
Depends on how you are going to use them. I want a mean and dirty fourth line wwhich suits Jarkko better than Tuomo. If I wanted a pure energy line with a bit offense then yes, Toumo is indeed the better choice.
Lund is one of the hardest players to judge. The Calder season isn't really that impressive, it's really that 1950 playoff that does it for us. he led in goals and points, lost the cup in a crushing game 7 OT, and most importantly, shut down the rocket. Without those 12 games, I don't think anyone ever selects him. With those 12 games, he could be a MLD fill in, or maybe still a B-league, "what-if" kind of guy. Your guess is as good as mine.
Always liked Zombo. He was a pretty highly valued defensive guy for a while.
Cheveldae was maybe the Cechmanek of a decade earlier. He was top-5 in wins three straight times and got some hype, but never even top-10 in sv%, and actually averaged 3 sv% points below the league average over those years (-6 points on his career). He's a strange one because his hype at the time doesn't seem to match his personal performance analyzed in retrospect. Maybe we didn't realize at the time, that this was the start of a 22-year trend of Detroit making their goalie look better than he actually was?
Pilon was a career 16.9 minute guy over 631 games, all played for brutal teams. He had just one playoff performance. On an average team he may not have even been a regular in the lineup.
The guy I'm taking tomorrow is a very wealthy man's version of Pilon.
Much better than Paul Laus, though, and a good fighter.
Kocur, I could show you a few guys who could fight just as well but were better hockey players. If you have to take a goon, there were better options. BUT, you could have done a hell of a lot worse too!
I don't know, I think that better players can go gown the lineup and that typically makes them better by default. Tuomo could probably play Jarkko's game just as well as Jarkko does, the only thing is that he's grossly overqualified for it at the NHL level. At this level, I can see him thriving in it.
After the '50 playoffs he had a weak regular season in 50-51 and got traded. Then in that 51-52 year he took a stick to the eye and his career almost ended. He made it back for one more year in the NHL but after that he was done. I'd like to think his eye injury ruined his chances of getting back to that '50 form (11 pts in 12 playoff games and only allowing one goal to Richard while shadowing him throughout the series) but I'd need to find some info about that injury aside from it being "serious" to have any idea if it's accurate or not.
Pentti Lund said:Menin kuitenkin varsin pian jäälle, enkä tunnustanut, että silmävamma oli niin paha kuin se todellisuudessa oli. Näin toisella silmällä vain vähän valoa, mutta ajattelin, että voin silti jatkaa uraani.
Pentti Lund said:Olin kauden alla aika hyvässä kunnossa, mutta valmennusleirillä selkäni kipeytyi ja jouduin olemaan pari viikkoa sivussa otteluista. Selkä vaivasi jatkossakin jonkin verran, mutta pelasin kuitenkin 54 ottelua ja niissä kertyi 17 (8+9) tehopistettä.
MacDonald was a journeyman forward who was fortunate enough to play with Delvecchio and Howe for a season – 1962-63, when he finished 5th in goals and just out of the top-10 in points. Two years after that, he made his mark as a playmaker, putting up 33 assists, good for 10th in the league. He never won a cup, but he went to four finals with Detroit – 1961, 1963, 1964, and 1966. He finished with 323 points in 676 games and 28 more in 75 playoff games.
It may look like MacDonald's offensive exploits are unimpressive - and they are, compared to the guys who were already drafted. But MacDonald's three 30+ point seasons prior to expansion (actually, 46+ points each) are the 2nd-most among available players and no one else put up three 40+ point seasons prior to expansion. In fact, just five who put up two are available!
In his three best seasons, he finished 11th, 16th, and 21st in points.
MacDonald was nothing special physically or defensively, but was a good complementary offensive player for a while, at a time when there were just 18 jobs for such players.
Chris Simon, LW
- 6'3, 233 lbs
- In a 7-way tie for 19th in the NHL with 29 goals (2000)
- 7 10-goal seasons between 1996 and 2007, excellent for an enforcer
- 305 points in 782 games
- 17 points in 75 playoff games
- 79-20-21 fight record, exclusively against top NHL heavyweights
Hockey Scouting Report 1996-97 said:In many ways, the prototypical NHL 4th-line winger. Has made his reputation with his toughness, but has shown an added dimension in his ability to make plays that result in points... Simon gets a lot of room, which gives a player with modern skills more time to make a play... what he doesn't get is a lot of icetime... unless he improves his skating, he'sll spend a lot of time on the bench... has decent hands for a big guy, but all of his success comes in tight. If he gets a regular shift, he will answer the questions about his consistency... Simon is as tough as they come and has a wide streak of mean. He has already established himself as a player who can throw them when the time comes, and opponents have to keep a wary eye on him, because they never know when he's going to snap...
Hockey Scouting Report 2001 said:Few players have made such a stunning transition from goon to first-line forward. Like Rick Tocchet and Bob Probert before him, Simon has developed into a rare blend of toughness and scoring touch... Simon made his reputation as a brawler, but has always had some moves where he would deke an opponent and score with an honest to goodness snap shot... Simon has had to improve his skating, and he has... now he has great confidence in his shot... Difference is now that he doesn't go looking for fights. He doesn't have to prove himself as a battler. He will pick his spots. Players never know when he is going to snap, which is pretty scary... isn't as easily goaded into going off with some fourth liner. He unleashes some clean, mean shoulder hits on the forecheck.... after Kolzig, was probably the team's MVP. Simon is truly an inspiration for players with size and raw skill who want to make themselves into something more.
THE PROVERBIAL "TOUGH GUY WHO CAN PLAY"
Simon is in a class by himself as far as AA/A/B-level enforcers go. he earned more icetime and produced significantly more offense than other recently mentioned thugs. He did not take more non-fighting penalties than the average thug, despite more icetime. He also was the best fighter:
Name | Career high goals | 10-goal seasons | avg TOI, career | Fights | win%|NFPIM/10minTOI
Simon | 29 | 7 | 12.11 | 129 | .746|1.25
Barnaby | 19 | 5 | 11.97 | 250 | .361|1.31
Nilan|21|4|10.37|310|.615|2.09
McClelland | 12 | 4 | 9.34 | 195 | .551|1.27
Buchberger | 20 | 3 | 13.17 | 255 | .366|0.65
Domi | 15 | 3 | 9.74 | 333 | .661|1.85
King | 11 | 2 | 9.7 | 229 | .506|1.07
Brashear | 11 | 1 | 10.55 | 278 | .714|1.15
T.Hunter | 11 | 1 | 8.79 | 240 | .582|2.72
Kocur|16|1|9.01|262|.784|1.54
Avg w/o Simon|15|3.6|10.29|263|.571|1.51
Although he had the fewest fights (this was due to his dominance as a fighter), Simon ranks 1st, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, and 4th out of 10 in the other 5 categories of skilled goonness.