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Golden_Jet

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I would go out on a limb and say that at this point 95%+ of users on this site did not see any of the 1970s NHL.

A few did, for sure. But most of these votes are just going to be based on what they have heard or just biased towards the recent players entirely.
Disagree
 

blundluntman

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Roy in 1986 15-5 1.93 GA .923 save% with 1 SO he faced 504 shots
Roy in 1993 16-4 2.13 GA .929 Save% with 0 SO he faced 647 shots and added an assist

Brodeur in 1995 16-4 1.67 GA .928 Save% with 3 SO and faced 463 shots and added 1 assist
Brodeur in 2000 16-7 1.61 GA .927 Save % with 2 SO and faced 537 shots
Brodeur in 2003 16-8 1.65 GA .934 Save% with 7 SO and faced 622 shots and added 1 assist

You don't think these are comparable?
If you look at the raw numbers they seem comparable, but adjusting for era, things start to look differently. 93 and 86 are actually around .943 and .937 (89 is at .936).

Now to be fair, Brodeur's 95 season is also a masterclass and actually stands at the top of the list at .944 (2000 and 2003 see a pretty significant dropoff though). I have to give Brodeur credit, I honestly didn't realize 95 was that good statistically. At the same time though, Roy did more with less and has 3 seasons in the top 10 that all came during his time in MTL, a team that wasn't the defensive juggernaut NJ was during Brodeur's time.

Top Thirty Playoffs – minimum 1,000 minutes

* updated for 2022

GoalieCup?Smythe?YearTeamMinutesShotsSavesSv%
Martin BrodeurYes
1995​
NJD1,222475448
94.4%​
Patrick Roy*YesYes
1993​
MTL1,293611577
94.3%​
Pelle Lindbergh
1985​
PHI1,008468441
94.3%​
Ed Belfour*
1995​
CHI1,014491462
93.9%​
Patrick Roy*YesYes
1986​
MTL1,218489458
93.7%​
Jean-Sebastien GiguereYes
2003​
MDA1,407760711
93.6%​
Patrick Roy*
1989​
MTL1,206521488
93.6%​
Reggie Lemelin
1988​
BOS1,027442414
93.5%​
Olaf Kolzig
1998​
WSH1,351770720
93.5%​
John Vanbiesbrouck
1996​
FLA1,332720672
93.4%​
Tim ThomasYesYes
2011​
BOS1,542789736
93.3%​
Jonathan QuickYesYes
2012​
LAK1,238546509
93.2%​
Dominik Hasek
1999​
BUF1,217616574
93.2%​
Tom BarrassoYes
1991​
PIT1,175600559
93.2%​
Bill RanfordYesYes
1990​
EDM1,401676629
93.2%​
Patrick Roy*YesYes
2001​
COL1,451693645
93.0%​
Mike Smith
2012​
PHX1,027611568
93.0%​
Dwayne Roloson
2006​
EDM1,160625581
92.9%​
Sean Burke
1988​
NJD1,001530492
92.9%​
Kirk McLean
1994​
VAN1,544813755
92.8%​
Martin Brodeur
1994​
NJD1,171526488
92.7%​
Andy Moog
1990​
BOS1,195489453
92.7%​
Arturs Irbe
2002​
CAR1,078511474
92.7%​
Marc-Andre Fleury
2008​
PIT1,251603559
92.6%​
Andrei VasilevskiyYesYes
2021​
TBL1,390663614
92.6%​
Tuukka Rask
2019​
BOS1,459699647
92.5%​
Tuukka Rask
2013​
BOS1,466724669
92.4%​
Igor Shesterkin
2022​
NYR1,182628580
92.4%​
Alain Chevrier
1989​
CHI1,013478441
92.3%​
Ed Belfour*Yes
1999​
DAL1,544648597
92.3%​
 
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dgibb10

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If you look at the raw numbers they seem comparable, but adjusting for era, things start to look differently. 93 and 86 are actually around .943 and .937 (89 is at .936).

Now to be fair, Brodeur's 95 season is also a masterclass and actually stands at the top of the list at .944 (2000 and 2003 see a pretty significant dropoff though). I have to give Brodeur credit, I honestly didn't realize 95 was that good statistically. At the same time though, Roy did more with less and has 3 seasons in the top 10 that all came during his time in MTL, a team that wasn't the defensive juggernaut NJ was during Brodeur's time.
Lmao at that.

MTL was 4th in goals against the year before roy got there, and had consistently multiple top selke candidates, including a guy who literally made the HOF based on his defense alone in Carbonneau, and multiple norris candidate HOFers in Chellios and Robinson. Let's cut the crap about those MTL teams.

They had Brian Hayward getting vezina votes right alongside Roy.

Lets cut the bullshit.
 

HugeInTheShire

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If you look at the raw numbers they seem comparable, but adjusting for era, things start to look differently. 93 and 86 are actually around .943 and .937 (89 is at .936).

Now to be fair, Brodeur's 95 season is also a masterclass and actually stands at the top of the list at .944 (2000 and 2003 see a pretty significant dropoff though). I have to give Brodeur credit, I honestly didn't realize 95 was that good statistically. At the same time though, Roy did more with less and has 3 seasons in the top 10 that all came during his time in MTL, a team that wasn't the defensive juggernaut NJ was during Brodeur's time.
This is a common argument that I see but in Montreal Roy had Larry Robinson leading the D and 2 o the best defensive forwards ever to play the game in Bob Gainey and Guy Carbanneu.
While Brodeur may have the edge in overall roster, people make it seem like it was Roy all by himself and Brodeur had a stacked roster.

I'm not trying to say Brodeur is better, because I don't think that he is but a lot of time Roy gets pumped up for his teammates and Brodeur never gets any credit because of his.
 

dgibb10

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This is a common argument that I see but in Montreal Roy had Larry Robinson leading the D and 2 o the best defensive forwards ever to play the game in Bob Gainey and Guy Carbanneu.
While Brodeur may have the edge in overall roster, people make it seem like it was Roy all by himself and Brodeur had a stacked roster.

I'm not trying to say Brodeur is better, because I don't think that he is but a lot of time Roy gets pumped up for his teammates and Brodeur never gets any credit because of his.
Don't forget Chris Chelios.

Roy wins all his vezinas with lemaire around, crickets.
Roy gets HOF dmen in front of him, crickets. But it's the first thing people bring up when it comes to broduer.
Trying to spin 0.934 as a masterclass for roy in 01 but not special for broduer in 03 (with SEVEN shutouts).
Ignoring the puck handling that actively prevented shots against.
Ignoring Broduer playing an extra 20 games a year

Roy took over a team that was 4th in Goals against the previous year.
 

HugeInTheShire

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Or Scott Stevens
Marty certainly had some good defensemen sure, but don't act like Roy didn't have good guys when he had Robinson, Chelios, Ray Bourque, Rob Blake plus the 2 best defensive forward to play the game in Guy Carbanneau and Bob Gainey on his rosters.
 
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dgibb10

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Or Scott Stevens
Stevens and neidermeyer are the FIRST thing mentioned (along with Lemaire) to discredit broduer.

But lemaire being with the habs for every single one of Roy's vezinas is crickets.

Chellos never mentioned.
Robinson never mentioned.
Ray Bourque never mentioned
Blake never mentioned
 
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