Terrible goaltender interference call tonight in Blues vs Nucks game!!

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

This is a little better angle and shows Holloway outside the crease when the first cross check was applied by Hughes. The other angle shows Holloway fighting to get away from the goalie.

you're kinda clinging here... play the clip at full speed and he's barreling into the crease, only to slow after he's in the blue. sure, hughes makes contact there, but he's still skating directly into the crease.

 

[Mubiki]

I've thought that prob 80-90% of the goaltender interference calls I've seen this year have been bad. My only conclusion at this point is that the NHLs definition of interference is nowhere near mine.

At this point, if a goalie isn't 100% set at least 3-5 full seconds before the goal goes in, any contact with that goalie regardless of circumstance or location has a significant chance to be called goaltender interference.

The spirit of the rule doesn't really exist anymore. Teams are just going to have to adjust.

 

[PAZ]

What exactly was Holloway trying to do there? His two options were:

1. Go through Hughes
2. Into the blue paint

Hughes is allowed to battle for his space in front of the net. Holloway just chose a stupid route that gave him two bad options. Could've easily stopped up beside Hughes.

 

[JianYang]

you're kinda clinging here... play the clip at full speed and he's barreling into the crease, only to slow after he's in the blue. sure, hughes makes contact there, but he's still skating directly into the crease.

That's a weak explanation from them.

I don't agree with this call. It feels like one of those calls thay they will say good goal on a different day.

 

[KCC]

you're kinda clinging here... play the clip at full speed and he's barreling into the crease, only to slow after he's in the blue. sure, hughes makes contact there, but he's still skating directly into the crease.

From what I see he was trying to avoid the blue and the goalie by skating away but ran into Hughes who pushed him in. But while he was pushed in (twice), Holloway did a poor job of paying attention to his surroundings. He needs to choose a different path or make an attempt to stop. He was too wild and out of control so maybe that was used against him. I don't know all the little rules they have in place for that sort of thing.

 

[Hoglander]

That's absolutely goaltender interference. Guy %100 has to assume some sort of attempt from Hughes to impede/box him out. Would be different if Holloway had actually tried to stay out of the crease and was pushed in, but the idiot skated right through the heart of the crease. Couldn't have made it easier for the refs to call that.

 

[JPT]

The call was fine, but why the f*** are they playing that song in the year 2025?

 

[Kaners PPGs]

but why the f*** are they playing that song in the year 2025?

Because there's a bunch of hillbilly St Louis fans. It is a great song considering the context of when it was written.

 

[A1LeafNation]

He was pushed into the crease.

How do you mess up a call like this after looking at it twice lol.

 

[Toby91ca]

Just get rid of challenges. They aren't making the game better. Instead of only having a goal disallowed the Blues also get a penalty for making a challenge that every coach would make.

Not sure every coach would have made that call. Call on the ice was no goal due to interference (obviously, otherwise no need to challenge.....other coach could challenge to correct to good goal though). So, you know it has to be pretty clear to overturn the call and based on the video they would have seen, I'm sure I definitely wouldn't have challenged. Sure, there is pushing from the D, etc. so you'd have a bit of an argument, but nowhere near enough that you are going to get a call overturned.

 

[Korpse]

He was pushed into the crease.

How do you mess up a call like this after looking at it twice lol.

There was contact that brought him into the crease but that isn’t a free pass to make contact with the goaltender, you still have to make an effort to avoid contact. Holloway decided to take a path that cuts in front of the goaltender and interfered with his ability to make a save. This was an easy no goal.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Refs called one a goal in an earlier game that was much more egregious than this one in regards to the defenseman pushing the player in. I’d be fine with this being goalie interference if it was consistent but the other seemed way worse.

 

[Three On Zero]

50/50 call, Holloway made no effort to avoid the crease and goalie contact.

 

[JPT]

Because there's a bunch of hillbilly St Louis fans. It is a great song considering the context of when it was written.

Lol ok well it's just objectively a terrible song, mostly because of the context but also because it sounds like a 10 year old wrote it, and it is honestly the most offensive thing I've ever witnessed at a hockey game (and I've seen Gary Bettman at a hockey game, so consider that).

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

eh, he turned to cut through the crease on his own before any contact and none of the cross checks were strong enough to move him off course. Im ok with that call

 

[Tryblot]

This would be a 45 page thread by now if the roles were reversed.

 

[BagHead]

I've seen worse goalie interference calls both in favor of and against the Wild this year. What I've gathered from them is this.


The play is goaltender interference if:

• An opposing player touches the goalie
  • Includes any level of contact, disruptive to the goalie or not
  • Includes the opposing player being forced into the goalie by a goalie's teammate
  • Includes the goalie initiating the contact with the opposing player if that opposing player is in the crease
• The goalie is not able to fully reset for the shot after contact has been made with an opposing player
  • A full reset means the goalie is able to get back in their stance and square to the shooter
  • The full reset must be maintained for at least a couple of seconds. A full reset and a shot right after will still result in goalie interference
    • The required length of time between full reset and shot are unknown to me at this time
• It is unclear at the moment what would happen if an opposing player forced a teammate of the goalie into the goalie. Maybe someone else has an example of that happening? Please share.

As a former goalie, I've got mixed feelings about this development. Goalies are uniquely vulnerable because they are required to focus on the shooter and potential passes the entire time the puck is in their zone (and even outside the zone, if they don't want to be scored on from half-ice), so they can't be as aware of potential contact as other players on the ice are. These calls are clearly an attempt to protect the goalies. I also, however, believe that the rules as they are being enforced are too strict in favor of the goalies, and that a defenseman forcing a player into his own goalie should not be encouraged and is as much a danger to the goalie as calling it the other way would be. That's a tough spot to put the refs in, so it's no surprise goalie interference is a pain point when it comes to frustration with the refs.

 

[Stlblue50]

Just get rid of challenges. They aren't making the game better. Instead of only having a goal disallowed the Blues also get a penalty for making a challenge that every coach would make.

This was a prime example of why there needs to be some sort of an exception on the automatic 2min penalty for a lost challenge. If the refs are going to be using their own “judgement” to make these important decisions then at least let them (or Toronto) decide if a challenge like this will not have a 2min penalty.

How about allowing the refs/league to call for reviews on goals scored when they didn’t see it well or it’s way too close to tell without review? That way neither team would be subjected to a penalty. This same crew blatantly missed a 4min high stick against the Blues and then 10-15 seconds later they blow the play dead and review it. They aren’t supposed to do that as you can only review high sticking calls that were called a penalty on the ice.

 

[bringbacktheskate604]

Dylan was clearly in the crease before any contact with Quinn and that's all that matters.

 

[krutovsdonut]

player went into the crease without the puck of his own volition and then made no effort to avoid goalie or get out of crease and instead got in the way of a save. the fact hughes tried to move a guy already in the crease does not negate that.

 

[Crede777]

The Blues player was going through the crease of his own volition either way. Good call.

This is where I'm at too. The Blues player skated into the crease on his own. We can argue about contact with the goaltender being avoidable or not at that point, but it's pretty easy to see why the ref said contact was unavoidable regardless of the Vancouver defensemen.

 

[D Wakaluk]

Am I taking crazy pills here? Holloway tried to avoid the goalie and he was pushed in the crease. If that's a good call, just start showing people close enough the goalie in the crease to trigger GI

Terrible call

 

[BB79]

The call was fine, but why the f*** are they playing that song in the year 2025?

What song?

 

[TooManyHumans]

It sure looked like he was going to cut through the crease regardless of contact. I have seen much worse goalie interference calls and non-calls.

 

[Cup or Bust]

I think it's a crap rule the way they call it but since everyone knows that, a player should know to avoid the crease, he shouldn't have tried to go through the crease like that when he had contact from behind.