Teammates who didn’t like one another

[tinyzombies]

Bert Olmstead was not liked in Montreal. He was very critical of his teammates at all times. And you're talking about the dynasty Habs... there wasn't much to be critical of. So they traded his a.. In Toronto they thought he was going to be a future coach, but that doesn't mean he was well liked.

Lafleur says the Mahovlich brothers were very hard on him when he came into the league. Might have had something to do with the Habs not giving Frank the money he wanted or of the trading of Pete in 1977.

 

[Stephen]

One of the more recent storylines I'm following is Georgiev in New York. Seems like he and DeAngelo had their issues which forced DeAngelo out of New York, but it seems Georgiev might be a character himself.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

Hasek was weird personality, but this is only Barnaby´s side of the story... Hasek described it from his point of view clearly too in his biography and clarified lots of things

ohh dish please

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

Besides kids talking smack out of their asses on the main boards, all I’ve heard from a teammate about Subban that didn’t reflect all that well on him was told by his Montreal teammate Brandon Prust on the Spittin’ Chiclets podcast.

Per my recollection, the team was going to have a night off on a Florida road trip where Subban had taken the initiative for a big gettogether with all of the teammates, that new guys and team veterans were going to get to know each other better on a personal level and to tighten the group and whatnot. Great initiative, the guys thought, and it’ll be good for everyone that they do something together for once rather than in their little cliques or whatnot.

Well, the road trip happened, they’d played a game and Subban’s team socializing thing was going to happen. However, Subban had apparently had a change of plans and was ditching the team to go clubbing or something in Miami with his friends. The guys had retaliated for the letdown in a way that hadn’t sat too well with Subban, and some head butting had gone down before they buried their hatchets. The way it was told, however, Prust loved the guy and thought that while it was kind of shitty at the time, he mostly thought of it as a funny story about Subban being a screwball and the guys getting back at him: he did not tell it like he was talking about some locker room cancer who split the team in two.

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

And speaking about Barnaby, and his Spittin Chiclets appearance: he hated Alexandre Daigle, whom he’d played with for Victoriaville in the QMJHL. While he conceded that the guy was a very talented player who blew past and toyed with other kids in juniors, he said the guy absolutely quit on his team in the playoffs and that when confronted about his lack of effort, he just arrogantly mentioned the NHL contract he’d already signed and that he couldn’t care less about how the team fares in the playoffs, basically.

He didn’t like Hasek as a person, but he absolutely respected and praised him to the skies for what he did for the Sabres on the ice. With Daigle, he spared no blows.

 

[K Fleur]

The rumor a few seasons back was that the Penguins dumped Kessel because Malkin didn't like him, not sure why or what the backstory was.

Wasn’t an off ice beef from what I remember.

Malkin did not like playing on the same line as Kessel and Kessel only wanted to play with Malkin.

They had no chemistry but at the same time they both had enough talent that it didn’t always matter. But they were awful together in Kessel’s last Pens season.

 

[frontsfan2005]

And speaking about Barnaby, and his Spittin Chiclets appearance: he hated Alexandre Daigle, whom he’d played with for Victoriaville in the QMJHL. While he conceded that the guy was a very talented player who blew past and toyed with other kids in juniors, he said the guy absolutely quit on his team in the playoffs and that when confronted about his lack of effort, he just arrogantly mentioned the NHL contract he’d already signed and that he couldn’t care less about how the team fares in the playoffs, basically.

He didn’t like Hasek as a person, but he absolutely respected and praised him to the skies for what he did for the Sabres on the ice. With Daigle, he spared no blows.

Interesting that Barnaby would say this, as Daigle only appeared in the playoffs once with Victoriaville, leading the team in scoring with five goals and 11 points in 6 games. Daigle wasn't drafted yet, as this was during the 92-93 season and he would be drafted later that year in June so he hadn't signed any sort of NHL contract at that point. Considering the Tigres were eliminated on April 2nd of that year, Daigle wouldn't have known where he would eventually be drafted yet (Ottawa or San Jose), although I'm sure at this point he knew a multi-million dollar contract was heading his way.

Barnaby put up two goals and six points in the same series, to go along with 44 PIM.

 

[vandymeer13]

Patrick Roy didn’t like Turgeon. Stemmed from when Turgeon stayed on the bench during the bench clearing brawl in Piestany where Roy’s brother was double teamed by two Soviets. When Turgeon was named captain of the Habs by Tremblay, Roy was not happy.

I’ve heard Gary Roberts and Corson couldn’t stand eachother since their Junior days.

I remember a lot of players not liking Turgeon for that. Deservedly so, your the only player from both teams to sit on the bench. Didn't do a lot for french canadiens rep back then. The least he could of done is go on the ice and grab one guy.

 

[JackSlater]

Bert Olmstead was not liked in Montreal. He was very critical of his teammates at all times. And you're talking about the dynasty Habs... there wasn't much to be critical of. So they traded his a.. In Toronto they thought he was going to be a future coach, but that doesn't mean he was well liked.

Lafleur says the Mahovlich brothers were very hard on him when he came into the league. Might have had something to do with the Habs not giving Frank the money he wanted or of the trading of Pete in 1977.

Nice, never heard either of those. There are plenty of stories of teammates hating each other from the 80s and ever since, but I rarely see anything from before the 80s.

 

[Big Phil]

As I recall, a few Stars, including Captain Morrow, hated Avery's guts lol

We could also ask Catherine Janney....Opps, I mean Catherine Shanahan

Not that there isn't a story like this on several other teams, but what was the deal with Shanny and Janney's wife? Yes, they ended up marrying in 1998, but Janney and Shanahan were teammates up until early 1995. So when did Shanny sort of..................errrrr, swoop in and what started this? And was Janney relieved or angry that he swept in?

 

[Big Phil]

Howe and Lindsay, I think, had some bad blood after Howe didn't back Lindsay's effort to form the player's union in 1957. The film "Net Worth" sort of makes it seem like they soured on each other. I am not sure how long it lasted as they at least managed to publicly show up at events in Detroit together.

You can assume Scotty Bowman didn't have a lot of friends on his teams, although the winning ones always seemed to respect him. But for whatever reason he seemed to get driven mad by Paul Coffey.

 

[The Panther]

I wouldn't say Gretzky and Robitaille "didn't like one another", but there seemed to be a friction there from the early-90s onward, and it's notable that they rarely played on the same line (and that Robitaille played his best hockey with Gretzky sidelined). I think Robitaille thought that Gretzky was instrumental in getting him traded out of L.A. in 1994, though I doubt that actually happened. Since retirement, with legacies being protected etc. (and Robitaille in a P.R. position), they're both highly complimentary of each other, but I've never felt they were very close. Also, Gretzky did not want Brendan Shanahan on the Rangers c. 1997, but I suspect that wasn't so much personal as that he and Janet were friendly with Craig Janney.

There are times when a teammates' relationship changes to a player-coach relationship, and naturally it can be difficult then. An example of this is Dirk Graham and Chris Chelios on the early-90s' Blackhawks. But when Graham became coach of the Blackhawks, Chelios had major issues with him. (For one shift, Graham sent Chelios out to play center and take a faceoff against Sakic. Sakic looked at Chelios and said, "What are you doing here?" Chelios asked Sakic to let him win the faceoff.)

Did anyone ever express any teammate-issues with Yzerman? Stevie Y was obviously a great and respected captain, but my impression is that he was damn difficult, also. Chelios said he was an "intimidating presence", even though Cheli was, like, 38 years old.

 

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[Moose Head]

do we know this for a fact, or is this just us collectively putting two and two together from that line in gare joyce’s book about iirc “a former canadiens star” anonymously making a comment about snowpeas?

you could be right. Just read Roy’s HOF speech and he described Turgeon as a guy he became great friends with. If there had been animosity, it seems Roy got over it.

 

[Nerowoy nora tolad]

What was the deal with the PK Subban era in Montreal? I could personally never really piece it all together, I just remember he seemed to clash with a few of the guys in the locker room. Gallagher and Pacioretty? Did Price sour on him in the end as well?

There was a videoclip from their lockerroom when Subban announces the starting line up in big fanfare and going over board heavily with the presentetation. None of the players played along fully. They seemed uncomfortable.

Plenty of players have said that is untrue. Rinne wrote an op-ed piece in Sporting News saying PK was well liked in the lockerroom as well.

I think a lot of this stems from his agitation on the ice. But he got a lot of abuse on the ice and rarely got calls. He said it himself. So he turned to agitation. Now he's been slewfooting players left and right tho...

Ill never forget the post-game late in that dumpster fire 2015-16 season, they were in the lockerroom and this midwit reporter shoves a microphone between PK and Pacioretty and asks them if they have a problem/dont like each other. You can guess what the response was, but the body language between the two was all wrong.

FWIW from my limited perspective as a fan, I dont think Ive ever seen evidence of Subban being a bad teammate per se, but his personality is exactly the kind of thing that grinds Canadian/hockey people types gears. Maybe a little racism in the pot, but "too big for the team" is an unforgivable crime in Canadian thinking, and everything Subban does just shouts "Im somebody and I know it"

And right or wrong, Pacioretty just makes my skin crawl. The least authentic personality I can ever remember seeing, I wouldnt trust him behind my back for a second.

 

[Nerowoy nora tolad]

That scrimmage game cheap shot could have been a freaking criminal charge. Not only does he Tomahawk him in the head with his stick, he then whines up and gives him a full force cross check while he is down. f***ing gutless. If that happens during an actual game I wonder what the disciplinary result would have been.

cheap shot from who on who?

 

[The Professional]

cheap shot from who on who?

 

[Nerowoy nora tolad]

That is... disturbing

 

[Prsut18]

ohh dish please

Been a while since I read it, but what I remember:
Hasek didn't like Nolan, because he just tried to be the popular/nice guy for media and public, but his coaching methods were terrible, his assistants basically doing all the important stuff while Nolan took the credit..
Nolan didn't take all players equally and had his favorite ones, mostly young players, who got the opportunity to play under him (Barnaby being one of his "pets"), ..having private meetings with his favorites in his office etc...
Many older players in the team hated it, but didn't speak up openly, so Hasek did it by himself...
After that Barnaby said something like "Shut up, or I'll hurt you in the practice" to Hasek privately..
In the offseason the owners dealt with the situation by not giving a contract to Nolan, and Barnaby blamed Hasek for it...

I have no idea where the truth is, this is just Hasek part of it..

The conflict with the journalist was unrelated to this

 

[GMR]

An interesting topic would be "Teammates Who Liked Sean Avery"

 

[Yozhik v tumane]

An interesting topic would be "Teammates Who Liked Sean Avery"

Henrik Lundqvist.

 

[hacksaw7]

Not sure if any of his teammates liked Tom Barrasso. Though he may have legitimate psychological issues...depression, bipolar etc. Something like that

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Lindros and Brind'Amour.

Tyler Seguin and Nathan Horton.

 

[hacksaw7]

Johnny Oduya and Evander Kane. Oduya openly came out and said Kane was an outright bad teammate. And that there are guys in the past who had egos and such that still wanted to win but Kane is not even that and that he poisoned the locker room...something like that (there is a quote from him floating around)

 

[JackSlater]

Lindros and Brind'Amour.

Tyler Seguin and Nathan Horton.

I don't believe the Lindros and Brind'Amour rumours. You don't swell together and then turn to disliking each other.

Johnny Oduya and Evander Kane. Oduya openly came out and said Kane was an outright bad teammate. And that there are guys in the past who had egos and such that still wanted to win but Kane is not even that and that he poisoned the locker room...something like that (there is a quote from him floating around)

I think that Wheeler and Byfuglien were the ones who threw Kane's clothes in the shower in a bit of high school volleyball team level drama. The Sharks of last year apparently also didn't want Kane back.